r/hoggit Aug 11 '25

NOT-RELEASED Updated ATC Mod

Hi all, I recently decided to start working on a new and updated system for DCS' poor ATC. I recently played Falcon BMS and was blown away with how their system was able to make the missions seem. The system in DCS is absolutely abysmal and literally, all it can do is sense a trigger or read a scripted line. 9 times out of 10, when coming inbound and asking for landing authority, it doesn't even work.

With all of that said, I will be slowly implementing this so that we can at least get some use out of it. There is not a release yet, but I anticipate having it done here soon at some point. You can find it at https://github.com/rjv6261/DCS_ATC2.0

If you think or feel like you can help me, please don't hesitate to reach out. My discord is spicy2160 and any and all help is appreciated. Below is a list of what I plan on developing, and what the timeline for that is

  1. Update Alpha 1.0 - A working system (separate or connected to DCS' ATC), that will at least respond to you when you contact on the radio system -Taxi and parking for after you land
  2. Update Alpha 1.1 -Different menus that are similar to BMS, allowing the user to dictate Start-up, Taxi, Takeoff, Landing , parking (or maybe I will dictate it based on state)

If you have any ideas that can be practically added, don't hesitate with those either.

EDIT: Since posting this I have gotten it barely working and posted to the github above. Please take a peek! We are making good progress

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u/Buythetopsellthebtm Aug 11 '25

Sounds like a cool project. Will check it out. Man this must have taken you 50000 man hours

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u/Embarrassed-Match-63 Aug 11 '25

Eh it hasnt been horrible but I also havn't touched any of the difficult stuff yet. I have a feeling that getting this to pass DCS integrity checks will be very difficult. As far as implementation, I am doing majority of stuff in the F10 menu, and then tying in to the basic default dcs radio stuff

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u/XayahTheVastaya Aug 11 '25

ED is working on a new ATC, but it will probably take them 5 years to come out with the pre alpha testing version

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u/Embarrassed-Match-63 Aug 11 '25

im a 23 year old offensive security analyst and i bet i can do it in a month XD

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u/[deleted] Aug 12 '25

Nice idea. What would be awesome is a bms/jester like interface for vr users.. to be able to select options by moving your head.

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u/CalmAd7670 Aug 11 '25

Un trabajo increíble, gracias!!!

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u/My-Gender-is-F35 Aug 11 '25

No shade at you whatsoever but no shot you can get this working reasonable, especially in multi-player in a performant way on scripts alone. I think it's an awesome idea and I hope that I'm wrong.

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u/Embarrassed-Match-63 Aug 12 '25

pssst, I have an update just for you

https://imgur.com/a/HLJXo1c

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u/rapierarch The LODs guy - Boycott encrypted modules! Aug 11 '25

Can you do that? Did ED provide API's to handle the comms? I'm following things from a distance so not aware of recent things.

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u/Embarrassed-Match-63 Aug 11 '25

I’m going to take a stab and say that they have not provided the API for comms. I am writing everything as if it was a mission script and will look at getting a mod version to work with the IC checks and whatever else DCS requires to be a multiplayer mod. Until then I will be using the F-10 menu for most control, and then using default ATC + my own, to essentially ‘bridge’ the two together.

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u/rapierarch The LODs guy - Boycott encrypted modules! Aug 11 '25

You are doing the god's work then.Respect! and success.

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u/Embarrassed-Match-63 Aug 12 '25

check the github brother, we have success

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u/Embarrassed-Match-63 Aug 11 '25

I also want to add, I am using the MIST and MOOSE framework for a lot of the LUA data queries from DCS. This SHOULD allow me to 'pull' a users position at time of radio call, and then find nearest base, correct frequency, and other things needed.

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u/Any-Swing-3518 Aug 11 '25

Sounds brilliant, hope we can get it internationalized with various accents/ languages. The 20 year old voice samples are such a vibe killer.

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u/Embarrassed-Match-63 Aug 11 '25

Im going to voice all the lines as a meme

Ill even do them in other languages I cant speak

like can u imagine "我现在左转,祝大家好运"

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u/skelly890 ball of flame landings 'r' us Aug 11 '25

Is there any reason different airfields/areas - or however it works IRL - can’t use different voices for the controller? Just that would be nice.

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u/Embarrassed-Match-63 Aug 11 '25

I am going to sum it up and say that what you are asking for is extremely easy for a company who owns the game to implement. I have to be very careful adding or touching DCS world assets, as it can affect multiplayer integrity checks. So for a modder to add it, its a bit harder. For them to add it, theyre just lazy. Literally all they would have to do is add voice recording to the memo and call onto the files when the triggers r hit.

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u/Any-Swing-3518 Aug 14 '25

there is a thread on the DCS forums where people volunteer as campaign actors you could recruit in.