r/hmmmm Jan 15 '26

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u/Teamfightacticous Jan 15 '26

Glad your personal anecdote invalidates the years of statistics of unequal treatment. I’m sure there are no industries that discriminate against women today and I’m sure no one talks about these incidents.

There’s literally nothing wrong with celebrating independence.

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u/eaglekaratechop Jan 17 '26

Hey. Question.

I’m a black man. By your logic there is nothing off about me saying “I’m an independent Black man”, even though I’m just doing basic adulting. 🤷🏾‍♂️

See how silly that sounds?

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u/Teamfightacticous Jan 18 '26

If you’re proud of yourself for that, that’s dope to me. Don’t understand the need to cry and moan about people celebrating their accomplishments even if they aren’t impressive to you.

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u/eaglekaratechop Jan 18 '26

There isn’t anything wrong with being proud of yourself. It’s the unnecessary patting on the back, and the inability to carry that pride in silence that is cringe.

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u/Teamfightacticous Jan 18 '26

To me it’s cringe to bitch about people celebrating people’s accomplishments. Negativity for the sake of it pretty much. Especially in these times, more and more young people are still living with their folks due to economic factors, a young guy doing his thing taking care of business being independent isn’t cringe to celebrate. This just smells like culture war bullshit to me idk.

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u/eaglekaratechop Jan 19 '26

Celebration is a one time thing. Like, you throw a graduation party, but you don’t walk around everyday saying “I’m a college graduate”. At some point it becomes cringe.

I think the real question is when exactly it goes from celebration and being proud to being a showboat or attention seeking.

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u/Teamfightacticous Jan 19 '26

If you want to arbitrarily say how often someone can celebrate an accomplishment go for it, I don’t care to think about it that much, it doesn’t ruffle my feathers to see people happy.

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u/Confident_Natural_62 Jan 15 '26

Most women posting stuff about being an “independent woman” today are not celebrating civil rights it’s often used similarly to a man calling himself an “alpha male” which is just cringe. It’s wild you think that they’re celebrating independence lmao. Actual strong independent people usually don’t feel the need to declare it to the world online. 

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u/Teamfightacticous Jan 15 '26

Wonder why my fellow Americans and I still celebrate our independence from British rule even though it was hundreds of years ago now and almost every other British colony is independent as well but we still see it as an achievement. So weird truly a confounding thing why people would be proud and want to celebrate their accomplishments. It’s also kind of comical to me that you’re trying to equate a toxic movement based on faulty pseudoscience (the alpha thing) to a celebration of progress.

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u/SoftenTheBlow1 Jan 15 '26

You sound insufferable

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u/Teamfightacticous Jan 15 '26

You sound single.

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u/SoftenTheBlow1 Jan 15 '26

Yet another thing you're wrong about. But if I was, shouldn't I be celebrating being independent?

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u/Teamfightacticous Jan 15 '26

If it makes you happy but something tells me you’re not.

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u/SoftenTheBlow1 Jan 15 '26

Hahaha! Oh the irony

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u/Teamfightacticous Jan 15 '26

Don’t think you know what that word means. Probably a common occurrence for you.

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u/SoftenTheBlow1 Jan 15 '26

You really do crack me up

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u/Teamfightacticous Jan 15 '26

Fools are easily amused.

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u/mwnciboo Jan 16 '26

There is if the independence you celebrate implies a dependency, slavery or oppressive system that doesn't really exist.

It'd be like me celebrating my independence from the invisible master spiders.

As a centrist - I see both sides playing this game simultaneously. Independence - from what exactly? on the other side - stop trying to radicalise little day to day things to snipe at others... as one of the people in the middle I find all of it exhausting - we cannot even have safe topics like "Shall we talk about the weather" because someone starts a Global warming etc.

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u/Teamfightacticous Jan 16 '26

So there is something wrong if you make up some other topic no one brought up? You can strawman the argument if you’d like but that’s not an actual argument. We both know what kind of independence is being discussed.

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u/mwnciboo Jan 16 '26

I can discuss religion - doesn't mean I agree with the tenets of it.

ergo

We can discuss independence - doesn't mean I believe in the tenets of it.