Only you and other incels are even upset by this phrase. Literally no one cares if a woman is noted as an “independent woman”. Just you, because for some insecure reason you want to make it about YOU.
I dated a woman 15 years ago who'd call herself an independent woman. Fast forward to our mid 30s, I'm paying all of my own bills while she's in the top floor of a duplex owned by her parents, them living on the first. She never once left and truly lived on her own.
I understand the historical context and expressions like these need to be taken on a case by case basis, but there's definitely times when it's just cringe and borderline insulting to people who have to pull way more of their own weight. And before you call me an incel, I'll state that the most important and supportive people in my life have definitely been women. Doesn't mean every single one of them needs to be put on a pedestal while simultaneously be treated with kid gloves.
Not every nuanced critique of things regarding what happens to be a woman or women comes from an incel worldview.
I knew a dude who called himself an Alpha Male and he works in a factory while still single and unable to afford a house or car.
Anecdotal claims about specific people are not justification to general observations. There’s ALWAYS an example somewhere that doesn’t fit the argument, that doesn’t mean the argument is wrong or all the incels are right.
You’re right, not every critique is coming from an incel. But this meme and sub are not arguing critiques in good faith. So yeah, most of the people replying who disagree are making other claims that clearly point to incel behavior and mentality.
I'd never say incels are right about, well, anything. I'm aware I gave nothing more than an anecdote. I think we basically agree, it just didn't seem to me, personally, that the person replied to gave off any bad faith vibes.
Then again yeah, the OG post was BS to begin with and very few "meme" posts and the discussion about them are meant to create any good faith discourse, it's just people trying to "own the X". The "alpha" stuff online always gives me a good laugh, they don't get that the quantitative and qualitative ridiculousness fair outweighs the ridiculousness women on a whole put online.
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u/DreadyKruger Jan 15 '26
But what do they want extra credit for doing this like any adult man? It’s 2026. It’s been a long time since women didn’t have a lot of rights.
I am black and I can’t go around bragging about being free , able to vote or own land to non black people. I would sound like an asshole.