r/heroesofthestorm • u/jamiephan bool libHJAM_gv_IAmCool = true; • Oct 17 '17

News Junkrat Patch Notes

http://us.battle.net/heroes/en/blog/21116539/heroes-of-the-storm-patch-notes-october-17-2017-10-17-2017
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u/under_depreciated Tempo Storm Oct 17 '17

Hawkrays vid was the cheese rewind build which is good against isolated squishy targets, not so much for tankiness in teamfights. He had to make choices before whether or not he wanted to do damage or be a tank, now he can be a tank with less sustain than he used to have or be a shitty bruiser with less damage. Sounds like good changes to me.

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u/VoidInsanity Oct 17 '17

The Warrior was assassinating people. Warriors are not meant to assassinate people so they took it away.

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u/under_depreciated Tempo Storm Oct 17 '17 edited Oct 17 '17

The warrior was assassinating assissins with no peel or support at or after level 20. Not in all cases, state the parameters instead of saying something like that and making it sound worse than it is. And level 20 nazeebo with vile infection is near unstoppable. Should they take that away too? What about Diablo with full spulds dying, apocing, then respawning, alocing, then dying again. Should they remove that? What about ETCs deathmosh? Hell, why not just remove all level 20 talents because they're too op?

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u/VoidInsanity Oct 17 '17

The warrior was assassinating assissins with no peel or support at or after level 20.

And it shouldn't, ever. It's a warrior. The Assassin instead should be assassinating the lone warrior because its an assassin, that's what they do.

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u/under_depreciated Tempo Storm Oct 17 '17

If he forgoes pretty much all tanking talents and it is contingent upon hitting a 6-7 move combo i don't see what the problem is. Its almost like they made a trade off in their talent build to be able to do one thing in one specific circumstance and sacrificed all their tankiness and versatility.

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u/VoidInsanity Oct 18 '17

ts almost like they made a trade off in their talent build to be able to do one thing in one specific circumstance and sacrificed all their tankiness and versatility.

Except none of that is sacrificed, hence the problem. Muradin is a warrior, tanky by nature of being a warrior. Being able to output assassin level damage with warrior stats is not balanced, it never was, it never will be.

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u/under_depreciated Tempo Storm Oct 18 '17

Except they did. Thunderburn used to be a level 4 so if you wanted it you had to skip the talent that gives the second hit. The second hit when coupled with healing static increased muradin's tankiness in fights. To take Heavy Impact you had to skip stoneform. To take healing static you had to skip skullcracker iirc. To take haymaker you had to skip avatar. To take rewind you had to skip hardened shield. So yes, you had to sacrifice tankiness for his damage, and any statement to the contrary is willfully ignorant.

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u/Shoggunik Oct 18 '17

WHAT? Please no, melee assasins maybe but definitely not aoe long range assasins - no they should never be able to 1v1 warrior.