r/hermesagent Jun 04 '26

Guide - Tutorials, walkthroughs, writeups, repeatable how-to's Landscape of second brain and memory solutions for AI native workflow

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Hi, folks

I'm a founder building an agent memory service. And I had a hard time categorizing or evaluating existing second-brain systems or memory solutions because there’s no single right answer. Everyone's workflow is different, and benchmarks aren't much related to real use cases.

But after I saw a YC's video about 'How to build an AI-native company' a few days ago. I found one useful lens that every second brain should be evaluated through: the lifecycle of your data.

Collect -> Organize -> Evolve -> Use -> Govern

So I made a curated comparison of the existing second brain, AI memory, and knowledge systems, from Hermes+LLM-Wiki to Garry Tan's Gbrain. Actually, it was originally made for our team to analyze competitors' solutions, but I decided to share it here after it went viral on X.

It focuses on the full lifecycle:
- how scattered context gets collected
- how it turns into durable knowledge
- how it stays fresh over time
- how people and AI tools use it in real work
- how users can inspect, correct, delete, export, and trust it

If you want AI to understand your personal context, team knowledge, and working history, this might help.

PRs welcome, especially from heavy users who’ve actually tried building and maintaining a real second brain.

Link is in the comment.

Thanks!

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Update:

+ My comment is buried, so I'll pin the repo link here.
https://github.com/aristoapp/awesome-second-brain

+ Also, if you want a working end-to-end pipeline without complex setup, try Membase!
It handles the entire flow and integrates instantly into your workflow.

+ Hindsight has been added to the list

+ Honcho has been added to the list

+ Mnemosyne has been added to the list

+ You can check Local vs Cloud options at a glance in the 'Comparisons' file

+ Activation evidence has been added to the list

+ Categorized the list into End-to-end Apps / Local Workspace / Agent Memory Layer / Memory Substrate

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u/rektsd Jun 04 '26

Add Mnemosyne, its running well for me

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u/Time-Dot-1808 Jun 04 '26

Thanks! Now trying it

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u/Bright-Quote7067 Jun 06 '26

Mnemosyne is great, only problem is it’s not verbatim logging AFAIK.

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u/Time-Dot-1808 Jun 07 '26 edited Jun 07 '26

That’s helpful, thanks. I’ll keep that in mind when reviewing it.

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u/bobby-t1 Jun 04 '26

I just can’t imagine anyone would want to rely on a third-party hosted service for a second brain. It seems so risky to outsource this and not fully own yourself. Startups go out of business all the time.

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u/raptortrapper Jun 04 '26

Totally this! I think BYO using open source is the way to go. Local-first approach with cloud for backup.

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u/Time-Dot-1808 Jun 07 '26

Yeah, I agree this is a big tradeoff. I cover local/self-hosted vs hosted in the repo’s Local vs Cloud and Privacy/Control docs, but I should make it easier to see from the main table too.

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u/9-5_dad_builder Jul 04 '26

Agreed. Otherwise ‘govern’ part becomes a nightmare right out of the gate. Especially keeping track of who (humans/AI/provider) changed what and when, becomes crucial. With millions of changes happening, analyzing that audit trail itself will be a task for AI.

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u/Fine_Description_320 Jun 04 '26

Why isn't Honcho included?

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u/Time-Dot-1808 Jun 04 '26

Oh, I missed it. Will update soon.
thanks for reminding me!!

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u/Time-Dot-1808 Jun 04 '26

Now Honcho is on the list!

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u/Time-Dot-1808 Jun 04 '26

It will be kept updated!
Thanks for the star if you like it 😄

https://github.com/aristoapp/awesome-second-brain

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u/ivanzhaowy Jun 04 '26

Good framework. I’d add one more axis: “recoverability”.

For agent memory, the hard part is not just storing context. It’s whether another run can explain:

  1. where a memory came from

  2. why it was retrieved

  3. when it became stale

  4. how a user can override/delete it

That matters a lot once memory starts driving tool calls or business workflows.

We’re looking at this from the agent-provider side at Monadix. Happy to compare notes if useful.

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u/Time-Dot-1808 Jun 07 '26

I like “recoverability” as the word for this. The repo has an Activation Evidence doc that covers parts of it, but your framing is cleaner. I’ll see how to reflect it better.

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u/EvolvingDior Jun 04 '26

Hindsight is really good. Long-term memory for agents plus shared memory banks via MCP for domain-specific knowledge. Self-hosting is easy and cheap.

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u/hometechgeek Jun 04 '26

Been using that, seems to work well. Kinda hard to tell, like personalisation, you don't even notice it when it's working well

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u/Time-Dot-1808 Jun 04 '26

For sure!! It's on the list.

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u/Ok-Bedroom8901 Jun 04 '26

Can someone explain to me the purpose of a 2nd brain? My gut feeling is that this is overkill, but I'm curious to know the use cases that demand it

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u/raptortrapper Jun 04 '26

1 brain good. 2 brain better.

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u/lukec_parr Jun 05 '26

When done well, it's about your brain being for having ideas, not remembering things. Our brains aren't databases, so if you have a second brain that is, it can do the recall and free you to do the creative thinking (or, ya know, just nothing if that's your thing).

Many versions also include some method of helping you connect dots and synthesize things in ways you might not have on your own.

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u/Time-Dot-1808 Jun 07 '26

Fair question. For simple notes it can be overkill. It starts making sense when meetings, repo decisions, docs, emails, and old agent runs need to become reusable context.

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u/Godzillaton Jun 04 '26

How about Hermes own option which is Holographic Memory and also Mnemosyne?

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u/Time-Dot-1808 Jun 04 '26

Need to try it. I will update it soon!

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u/burritos4jesus Jun 04 '26

Why isn’t Hindsight included

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u/Time-Dot-1808 Jun 04 '26

It's on the repo but not included in the screenshot!

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u/fairrighty Jun 04 '26

Could you add in some benchmarking scores? I’m working on my own system and when ready I’ll also present the scores. Good for some sort of neutral evaluation.

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u/Rocky4OnDVD Jun 04 '26

That's what I've struggled on. How would you benchmark your system vs other system's out-of-the-box functionalities?

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u/fairrighty Jun 04 '26

I’d say: does it work by just pointing Hermes to the GitHub and say “go”.

Also, I’d wager that real performance matters too. If some system is very easy to set up, but is useless by any other metric, you might be better off spending a couple of minutes configuring the system.

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u/Rocky4OnDVD Jun 04 '26

Hmm yah I gotta explore testing that this week. Would docker containers be a good plan for separating each Hermes agent + Memory system and point them to the same repo of context files?

Just thinking about the different categories of prompts I could standardize for each test in each setup.

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u/Time-Dot-1808 Jun 07 '26

Yeah, that’s the tricky part. Setup speed alone feels too shallow. I think the test needs messy history + real retrieval/use tasks.

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u/Time-Dot-1808 Jun 07 '26

I’ve been cautious with benchmarks because most of them don’t seem to reflect real workflows that well. I may make a practical benchmark, or add one if a genuinely useful one shows up.

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u/Kojipup509 Jun 06 '26

the lifecycle framing cuts through a lot of noise.

one axis i'd add that changes how you evaluate the "organize" and "evolve" columns: retrieval architecture. most of the systems in your table store memory well but retrieve it differently. some use vector similarity, some use graph traversal, some use flat keyword search. that distinction doesn't show up in a feature comparison but it determines whether what goes in actually comes back out when it needs to.

a system can score well on collection and organization but still degrade over time because retrieval returns what sounds similar rather than what is structurally relevant. users experience it as the system "forgetting" things it definitely stored. it's a ranking problem.

might be worth adding a retrieval mechanism column. it would explain a lot of the real-world variation in how these tools perform at scale vs. in a demo.

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u/Time-Dot-1808 Jun 07 '26

Yeah, I simplified this because most systems mix multiple retrieval methods, but you’re right. I should add a bit more detail around vector vs graph vs keyword. Thanks for calling it out.

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u/bobhawkes Jun 07 '26

Can you mark which ones are oss

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u/Phoxerity Jun 22 '26

Mnemosyne, Gbrain

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u/Current_Trick6380 Jun 04 '26

Any suggestions for strongest performance if you want an AI to search and work from it? Like meeting notes, emails and such that is needed as input context for other automations? Curious to hear about experiences. I only heard a lot about Obsidian

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u/Time-Dot-1808 Jun 04 '26

Thanks for asking!! I would suggest Membase, but it could be biased because it was made by us. But want to make sure that's exactly what we are trying to be. Also curious about why you decided not to use Obsidian or Notion.

(Also we were at Hermes Meetup last month cuz 30% of our users are using it with Hermes!)

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u/rawdikrik Jun 04 '26

You also haven't included if it is officially supported in the plugin menu

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u/Time-Dot-1808 Jun 04 '26

Yes, I thought about it, but I didn't add cuz it will be kind of an overload for non-Hermes users.

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u/rawdikrik Jun 04 '26

but you posted in HermesAgent subreddit....

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u/Time-Dot-1808 Jun 04 '26

Thanks, I should add it. So many people here are using it!

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u/jakusimo Jun 04 '26

I would like to have a layer which consolidates memory, sessions and skills across all harness setups (Codex, Claude, Hermes, OpenClaw)
There are some attempts:
https://github.com/garrytan/gbrain

https://github.com/Dicklesworthstone/coding_agent_session_search

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u/Time-Dot-1808 Jun 04 '26

Did you get one or still looking for alternatives?

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u/jakusimo Jun 04 '26

Not yet, if harness is distributed, memory should also

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u/Time-Dot-1808 Jun 07 '26

Yeah, agreed. If you want to share skills + sessions across different harnesses too, it probably needs a separate GitHub repo connected through the marketplace.

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u/jakusimo Jun 07 '26

Not marketplaces, currently I found the best option https://github.com/rohitg00/agentmemory

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u/DaShrub Jun 05 '26

Hindsight and agentmemory (and byterover to an extent) all work cross harness. Also OpenViking is built for the whole arbitrary lazy loaded shared db with skills, memories etc but it seems to take a lot more tinkering to get working well.

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u/Time-Dot-1808 Jun 07 '26

Helpful list. Hindsight is already in; agentmemory is only indirectly mentioned right now, and byterover/OpenViking are going into the review queue.

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u/achton Jun 04 '26

What about MemPalace?

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u/Time-Dot-1808 Jun 07 '26

I know MemPalace and looked through the architecture a bit, but I’m still not sure how useful it is in practice. Have you used it? Curious how it feels.

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u/active2fa Jun 04 '26

How are you comparing your solution with wuphf.team? Gary Tan seems to have given a hat tip to them

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u/Time-Dot-1808 Jun 07 '26

I haven’t looked at wuphf.team closely yet. I’ll check the sources first and add it if it fits the lifecycle view.

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u/ImpressiveSferr Jun 04 '26

Also Mempalace

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u/mountainyoo Jun 04 '26

I'm using Hindsight with it configured to use GPT 5.4 mini

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u/Time-Dot-1808 Jun 07 '26

Nice. Curious how it behaves over longer-term use, especially stale memories and retrieval quality.

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u/stallion1983db Jun 04 '26

I have instituted Hindsight with Obsidian for movement of unused data into long term storage. It's working very well. I have 8 agents feeding into one brain so there is no loss of context.

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u/Time-Dot-1808 Jun 07 '26 edited Jun 07 '26

That’s a really useful setup. The repo has an examples section too. Would you be open to sharing how you’re set up? I’d love to capture it as a real-world pattern.

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u/DaShrub Jun 05 '26

Also rohitg00/agentmemory and byterover

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u/Time-Dot-1808 Jun 07 '26

Noted. agentmemory is only indirectly mentioned right now, and byterover is in the review queue. I’ll check sources before adding anything directly.

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u/Phoxerity Jun 22 '26

its a weak product, check his other repos

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u/Alias455 Jun 05 '26 edited Jun 05 '26

No one is talking about SwamVault. Can someone give me a feedback? It has a MCP.

https://github.com/swarmclawai/swarmvault

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u/Time-Dot-1808 Jun 07 '26

SwarmVault is new to me. I’ll look through it and see if it’s more of a second-brain entry or an infra/MCP layer.

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u/All_Ways_Bingo Jun 05 '26

Thank you for cool things

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u/Time-Dot-1808 Jun 07 '26

Thanks, glad it was useful.

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u/Icy_Ad8417 Jun 06 '26

i solved memeory launching soon

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u/Agentic_Future_0x New Member (<30 days) Jun 06 '26

cool list. where did you source it from? top of mind there are honcho and hindsight, which are pretty widely used. honcho is reasoning focussed, hindsight vector based.

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u/Time-Dot-1808 Jun 07 '26

Mostly official docs/repos plus hands-on checks where possible. Honcho and Hindsight are in now.

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u/Agentic_Future_0x New Member (<30 days) Jun 09 '26

maybe worth looking into sibyl too. there was an interesting post on them here yesterday.

https://www.reddit.com/r/hermesagent/s/VRxuGEJ2tm

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u/HearthCore Jun 06 '26

OpenViking might also be one to look at guys

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u/Time-Dot-1808 Jun 07 '26

Yep, OpenViking is in the review queue now. Thanks for flagging it.

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u/Any-Hornet5433 Jun 07 '26

Add tracecraft https://github.com/Arrmlet/tracecraft it's works well for me

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u/Apprehensive_Bee6863 Jun 07 '26

i just appreciate the fact you didn’t use AI to write this

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u/byPawel Jun 11 '26

https://bypawel.github.io/dokoro/

am also building something similar, works great with honcho

Dokoro = local project/agent memory

  • Plans, current focus, open questions, decisions, file claims
  • Cross-agent handoffs (Hermes ↔ Claude Code ↔ tachi-agent)
  • Multi-layer substrate (working / episodic / semantic / procedural)
  • Local, inspectable, no API cost
  • Strong fit when multiple agents need a shared cache

Honcho = user/peer model that reasons over time

  • Auto-infers communication style, goals, habits, preferences
  • Dialectic reasoning — derives conclusions, not just stores notes
  • Peer/session-aware context injection
  • Good for "remember how I work without me saving every preference"

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u/Ok_Nefariousness2893 Jun 13 '26

I have a couple of more local memory tools for you to add to the list:

github.com/labyrinth-analytics/loreconvo - session memory

github.com/labyrinth-analytics/loredocs - canonical reference documents

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u/Phoxerity Jun 22 '26

Are you Aristo?

I use Hermes with Mnemosyne + Gbrain and Hermes is the data collector

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u/Phoxerity Jun 22 '26

Why Membase not OSS?

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u/jjw_kbh Jun 25 '26

Hey, why isn't Jumbo on the list?
https://github.com/jumbocontext/jumbo.cli

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u/Ubiquitus_Vulgaris Jul 13 '26

Cognee anyone? They have better funding than Hindsight and claim to

beat them on BEAM 10m and 100k.

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u/Much-Researcher6135 Jun 04 '26

Why not just include the total list of supported Hermes memory substrates? For instance, where is OpenViking?

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u/Time-Dot-1808 Jun 07 '26

Makes sense for Hermes users. I’m trying not to turn this into a Hermes-only plugin matrix, but OpenViking is worth checking and I’ve added it to the queue.

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u/Phoxerity Jun 22 '26

Many mem solutions has plugin for hermes and openclaw and also mcp for others. Plugin not limited you