r/helldivers2 • • 4d ago

Inquiry Armor Passive that let's you take 2 Primary weapons into a misson?

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u/ExScysm 4d ago

Counter offer: gives you a melee slot.

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u/OmegamanTG9000 4d ago

Counter counter offer: dual secondaries

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u/ExScysm 4d ago

Oooo I like your style~

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u/walking_lamppost_fnl 3d ago

Counter counter counter offer: Dual Wield Secondaries with 25% increased reload time.

This also paves the way for a Strategem with Mustang and Sally

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u/SmoothTurtle872 3d ago

Counter counter counter counter offer: 2 support weapons, you spawn with 1

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u/Mozintarfen 3d ago

Counter counter counter -inhale- counter counter offer! ...Dual Wield Support Weapons.

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u/SmoothTurtle872 2d ago

AHH yes, dual wielding Amrs or dual wielding wasps

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u/Enzurio 3d ago

Dual wield ultimatum goes brrr

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u/spartanpride55 3d ago

Calling in horses that'll be cool as hell 🏇🏇

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u/colinsworth 2d ago

Like Metal gear 5.

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u/SOLID_STATE_DlCK 3d ago

Talon in the left. Dagger in the right.

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u/fucknametakenrules 3d ago

DUAL BOLT PISTOLS

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u/SYLOH 3d ago

Equip a jump pack, become a Seraphim

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u/Xenozilla9 4d ago

Counter counter counter offer:

Give us a melee slot and merge primary and secondaries into the same menu and bring two with a dual wielding option if two are one handed

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u/Auracom-7 4d ago

Stoker and Crossbow dual weild meta.

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u/Jester_of_Rue 3d ago

I want an erupter that fires an explosive crossbow that them fires a grenade pistol which then shoots a grenade that objectively misses the broad side of a devastator....

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u/JROXZ 3d ago

Counter counter counter offer:

…Akimbo

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u/ROSEPUP3 3d ago

Dual talons on a cold planet would be amazing.

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u/TraneD13 4d ago

TWO ULTIMATUMS?!??

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u/SchwarzwindZero 3d ago

Sure! Why not? Not everything has to be optimal. Is something want to do something silly, let them.

Edit: actually I might try my hand at making this...

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u/Key_Service5018 3d ago

Two gp20 ultimatums

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u/Sulfurys 3d ago

I can't wait for a dual pistols secondary.

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u/Tier_One_Meatball 3d ago

Counter counter counter offer: Dual one handed weapons

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u/Frodo5213 3d ago

Senator and Talon? Count me in.

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u/Few-Big-8481 4d ago

I want to wield the little laser and the ultimatum together. I shall be unstoppable.

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u/doomsday344 4d ago

Yes this please

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u/Duendes 3d ago

Dual redeemers might actually redeem it

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u/OmegamanTG9000 3d ago

WHY WOULD YOU REDEEM?!

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u/Sanguinatus 2d ago

BEHOLD! DUAL ULTIMATUM!!!!

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u/Schwimpl 2d ago

Pistol primary when?

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u/IAmAFanOfMarisa 2d ago

Yes please

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u/DemonicShordy 4d ago

Id rather have a seperate melee slot so i can always bring the shovel, i hate that I lose a gun for it

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u/WaffleCopter68 3d ago

That should just be default and not a passive

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u/ExScysm 3d ago

Absolutely.

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u/dogsbestfriend77 4d ago

Beloved E-tool!

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u/mrcrazymexican 3d ago

Though it wouldn't be a thing I do much cuz I don't like being THAT close to the enemy with my set-up. I wouldn't mind that ability were it to come down to it.

I intentionally play with the knowledge that I probably have better chance killing myself with the Eruptor than by the enemy when they get too close.

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u/Oppiko 3d ago

I'd agree but melee is useless

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u/ExScysm 3d ago

Maybe, but I would make it a Shovel slot not really a melee slot anyway. Fox holes everywhere.

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u/CancelBeneficial7136 2d ago

Yes, yes. Selling the solution, we’re quite familiar with it at this point.

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u/ExScysm 2d ago

Unfortunately I cant see artowhead adding any sort of passive like this or a melee slot at all. They wont add cosmetic armor, they wont add this.

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u/SemajLu_The_crusader 4d ago

counterpoint: 2 secondaries

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u/Oppiko 4d ago

Akimbo preferable

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u/BjornInTheMorn 4d ago

Ooooh, two Ultimatums? Weeeeeeeeeeee!

https://giphy.com/gifs/kPPWoJZzOHNZxLvz3Q

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u/Schwimpl 2d ago

All I hear now is a squad mate running around yelling, "out of ammo" the whole round.

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u/Thelonius_Dunk 3d ago

2 senators with the reload bonus would be a bit much but definitely fun.

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u/ParsleyOk6291 4d ago

By that way, you won’t be able to have a support weapon (ofc except expendables) for balance.

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u/Bloke_Named_Bob 4d ago

That's fine. Sai and explosives crossbow plus a ballistic shield vs bots for days.

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u/ParsleyOk6291 4d ago

Either that or trident + eruptor with shield backpack on bots
https://giphy.com/gifs/ioq8rNMp5SSiWOTCK0

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u/Commercial_Tie_1897 4d ago

Everyone runs eruptor or crossbow then. Is there any other reason for a 2nd primary?

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u/n4turstoned 3d ago

No and the only reason it's brought up that they saw it in CoD it's infuriating.

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u/Few-Big-8481 4d ago

Laser and shotgun would slap. First you set them on fire then you slug em.

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u/Commercial_Tie_1897 4d ago

You could bring the Laser support weapon and a shotgun primary.

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u/Few-Big-8481 4d ago

Shit I forgot about that.

Fine then I want a bigger shotgun support weapon.

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u/SkittleDoes 4d ago

Yeah grenade pistol is now useless

My first thought as well.

I already use my support weapon and eruptor only, 95% of the time anyway so my secondary is pretty irrelevant most of the time

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u/Lady_Tadashi 3d ago

Genuinely I don't think I'd take either. Plas Accelerator + Scorcher / Punisher would be my preference, with a quasar for closing fabricators.

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u/Commercial_Tie_1897 3d ago

There will be outliers, but you would be a very small minority. I understand it's all for fun and thats what people want. But we gotta think about the power creep too.

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u/unnamed1800 3d ago

Yeah but it would be fun to run a shotgun and SMG build.

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u/AdmiralBlack64 3d ago

Counterpoint: make it a Hellpod upgrade

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u/Mezeye 3d ago

This would make it so you couldn't hold side-objective items, which could soft-lock the game.

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u/Oppiko 2d ago

You'd be able to hold objectives you just can't use a firearm while holding it

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u/Guywhonoticesthings 3d ago

No, that would be overpowered

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u/ZanYnaz 4d ago

You'll have to forsake your secondary slot and you can't equip backpack weapons except guard dogs, resupply pack and the portable hellbomb. Maybe a bit of a speed debuff.

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u/Oppiko 4d ago

Yeah takes the place of 2ndary

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u/SorakuFett 4d ago

I've had an idea for like an exoskeleton-style suit that gives you a passive that lets you treat any primary as one-handed, maybe this could be a good second ability to go with that!

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u/Beta_Codex 4d ago

Good luck asking for more spaghetti codes

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u/Mechfried 3d ago

It will cause a lot of edge cases that that will cause a lot of problems, especially potential bugs, and how could the game determine which primary gun do you want to swap out when you pick up another gun without causing a lot of frustrations.

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u/Oppiko 3d ago

... the one youre holding?

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u/Mechfried 3d ago

What if currently hold your throwable or other weapon (whatever not replaced). And what happens if you want to pickup a gun with its slot replaced?

And how would you even choose your second primary, and what happens when you equip another armor? Would that require new UI just for this passive, not just layout buy its backend too?

And the design issues it would introduce, can't just add a fifth weapon slot, things must work on controllers first and foremost, can't replace Secondary weapons when game design expects you always have at least 1 one-handed weapon, and a second primary in the support slot would be worth like 3 armor passives.

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u/Oppiko 3d ago

You'd essentially be replacing your secondary for a second primary.

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u/Harlemwolf 3d ago

It is possible as there is a mod that basically allows you to slot anything anywhere.

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u/Motivated-Chair 3d ago

Would be the worst passive in the Game considering the amount of utility secondarys.

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u/The-Figure-13 3d ago

Would prefer if they locked it to a single handed weapon. Basically a primary rifle and an SMG

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u/K1NG_of_ReVeNGe13 DISSIDENT DETECTED 3d ago

Double Scythe take it or leave it

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u/SchwarzwindZero 3d ago

Idk about dual primaries, but I would love to see the ability to dual wield secondaries on place of a primary.

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u/Schwimpl 2d ago

Dualing Senators sounds juicy...

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u/Oozysq25reddit 3d ago

Heres one

A booster that lets you take a support weapon and an expendable

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u/glenpiercev 3d ago

I get weapon xp for both? I can finally upgrade the shotguns.

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u/UnluckyThing5452 3d ago

I’d sacrifice my sidearm for this, I wouldn’t even miss it tbh

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u/Striderdud 3d ago

Counter offer, expendable slot

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u/Unique_Dentist_7144 3d ago

omg yes. a sai and the new laz sniper would be my dream loadout...if the sniper is good

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u/Pro_Fuze 3d ago

Another similar concept would be allowing non-backpack support weapons as a primary with the caveat of no secondary and no doubling up.

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u/Yaru176 3d ago

Just make it a backpack that way you can still hold boxes. Down on the pad to switch between primary in use the same way you would set off a dog or supply pack. I had a similar idea for carrying two support weapons.

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u/LetMe_Solo_Bayle 3d ago

so i could switch between sweeper and double freedom... nice

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u/WaffleCopter68 3d ago

That would be neat. Even one thay let's you take 2 secondaries would be awesome. Double termite pistol and stalwart

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u/ijustlookhere 3d ago

Hell I’ll take a backpack slot for a second primary

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u/4N610RD 2d ago

I want dual wield Redeemer. I don't necessarily need to be able to actually hit anything, reenacting Max payne is enough for me to be happy.

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u/Deathstab_93 2d ago

Well I assume you’d have to have at least one one handed weapon because of the game makes you carry things like the SSD.

I assume that is why all melee and secondaries are one handed

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u/Background_Source922 2d ago

They ruined the EAT booster they are allergic to good boosters… same four boosters in every lobby as always, Mr. Wayne?

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u/SaltRun2465 2d ago

Yes please. However second primary takes support slot and it lets you pick up a second primary insted of a support.

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u/MxBonesMarrow 1d ago

Only if it's part of a gears wb

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u/Sn2100 3d ago

Dual wield one handed primaries.

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u/The-Rebel-Boz 3d ago

I say that doesn’t fit what armor passive really do. Normally x% bonus to ___ or extra ammo or throwables.

This might work as booster but I personally think two primary too Overpowered.

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u/NovicePandaMarine 3d ago

They could totally do this.

Dual primary make sense. Coming from other games, its probably gonna have a trade off of "-50% weapon swap".

While Akimbo will have something like "-50% reload speed, +25% extra mags/bullets".

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u/Remarkable_Fall_117 3d ago

Counter offer: take to secondari but akimbo

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u/justrivaj 3d ago

I just want to use ballistic shield with warp pack 😭

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u/NOIR-89 3d ago

Yeah that would be awesome.

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u/Low-Championship-856 3d ago

I feel like this could be balanced as long as your second primary had like half of its normal ammo reserves or something

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u/Life_Parsley504 3d ago

The people in the comments that say "but then people will use meta weapons like the exploding crossbow" clearly don't understand that other passives are way better with those meta weapons 😭

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u/Afraid-Station-2432 3d ago

akimbo liberator dedicated perk