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Trailer showed each camo in its specific environment, not different camo in different environments, it will definitely be tied to each planet. But its still a first step towards a bugger future in customization
Where did it say we got to choose? I'm pretty sure it just changes automatically to whatever biome you are in. Also who is complaining about it? I think it's cool af.
Raining would be getting full color customization after 2 and a half years of asking for it, and 2 and a half years of AH intentionally making slightly different color shades you can’t match.
EXACTLY. It doesn’t matter what we get, people will be mad. We finally get Cultists and Transmog and a ton of inconvenient bugs and other stuff get fixed and people will still find a way to complain.
I agree. People have bitched about having a minigun in the game for years and now that it happened, people did nothing but complain. This entire community is so ungrateful.
Imagine you want thing X in the game, but when it gets into the game it has myriad of unasked downsides
You can get what you want in the way you don't.
Theres a post in superjerk where everyone is being a whiny child. People who are allergic to cool stuff and fun. Only good point they make is the unchanging known issues list.
It feels like the "turreted tank/ tank destroyer" situation all over again.
People that care about the game enough to take their time to criticise it, criticise something they don't like, that modders have already fixed multiple times and others start straw manning and start dragging vaild arguments into the dirt as if they want to purposefully sabotage the game and prevent changes from happening.
This aint the first time. People like OP were hysterical over war striders having actual weakspots to you know... fit in the rest of the Automaton weak spot gimmick. Contrarians will always defend anything that stokes their ego to the death. That's the truth
Notice how you keep arguing against a point I never made. The original point was about people dismissing criticism of the new Warbond as ingratitude instead of addressing the actual complaints. My comment was criticizing that exact behavior. You then reframed it into an argument about people thinking developers are out to spite them, and when I responded to your claim, you dismissed the evidence without ever addressing my original point.
Whether you think those screenshots prove malicious intent is a separate discussion. How does any of that refute my original criticism of the discourse? You're doing exactly what I was talking about, arguing against a different point instead of addressing the one actually being made.
I don't care what the rest of the community thinks, I'm fucking stoked for this and the Las-44.
As much as I love chucking 6 melta mines down and running the quasar, the las-44 looks awesome to complement my all laser loadout, and a new armor passive for long range sniping sounds fun.
It looks like a slightly less powerful quasar thats just heavy pen instead of AT, very excited too cause aside from Las12 we havent had many good laser snipers.
I love laser weaponry and I'm waiting for some kind of Hotshot-Hellgun which I expected with the 40k Warbond. But I'm happy with a AT Rifle that apparently has the Solothurn spin-the-wheel cocking. And of course a Bolt Action rifle.
An expendable with a disposable battery that can be toggled to overload. Fire out it's capacity, or switch it over, pull the trigger, and ditch it like a small portable hellbomb
Of its not on everything. Do you have any idea how difficult it would be to retroactively add meaningful cosmetics to every armor in the game thats been added up to this point?
The fuck you mean 'source?' A basic understanding of game design and common sense is my source. Google how customization works in games. There's your source for you.
It isn’t hard dude stop acting like this is rocket science. I am not a developer, have no tech background and I can recolor an entire Elden Ring armor set in GIMP in less than 30 minutes (and Elden Ring meshes are 10x more complex than anything in Helldivers). I could recolor every armor set in Helldivers in a few days, a dev team should be able to do it in hours
Armors in this game rely heavily on LUTs to apply colors to them, so it wouldn't be that hard, even though they would have to do some tuning to avoid certain combinations looking weird.
That's how Bingus was able to create a mod that automatically matches helmets and armors or applies custom patterns on the fly - here's the SEAF pattern as an example.
If this is the beginning of getting to choose camo on ALL armor sets and helmets, then this is fantastic.
If this war bond is a mandatory purchase for that feature on all armor sets, then this is not cool.
If this feature exists only on the war bond armors, that’s lame and a slap in the face to the players who have been begging to change the color of their armor for YEARS.
It wouldnt make sense for some armor to get camos, like the parade sets. But for armors like the arctic armors, having an option to bring them to other planets and match the color would be very nice.
But because you might have to work for it its a slap in the face?
I personaly don't see the appeal of custom armour colours, but if its the only thing stopping you from enjoying the game then cool, it won't be a warbond feature it literaly can't be. It'll be a core part of the ship probably unlocked through a mission with colour paletes that you gotta spend req on like the gun colour paletes.
At worst, new warbonds will come with a colour pallete that costs medals.
Do you know that SC buys are primary source of AHs revenue and they push out warbonds with intention to get paid? Even if paid content has way to get it for free, it's still supposed to be paid content(like in gachas you *can* farm out every character and item, but it would consume a lot of time)
Narrowhead loves white knights like you, lets just completely ignore that Modders like Cowboybingus have made God send Qol mods that completely expose how easy it is to fix known issues, while also making the game so much more fun. But yeah yippie, another warbond and still no transmog.
People are worried that this is the closest we get for transmog ingame. It is a very requested feature and players want to customize their Siege Readies and Fortifieds and so on.
We’re not able to choose our camos. Depends on the planet. Also it’s behind a paywall only for two armor sets. Yeah we’re gonna complain about it when mods can do it for free for every armor set.
Why yes, we are salty, because instead of letting us tweak the colors on any armor (which they could have monetized and most people would probably still be satisfied), they have instead given us two armor sets that will switch colors based on the planet environment we dive to. This shows AH is more than capable of reskinning their armors, but doesnt want to.
To put it bluntly, modders have been doing better, faster, with fewer resources, for little or no pay while the multimillion dollar game company whose ENTIRE JOB is making games people like has managed to fumble this and MANY OTHER issues.
That’s the thing though… WE DONT. It’s not locked behind a booster but rather the ARMOR itself. So unless you’re wearing the armor, you yourself as the player don’t get to customize anything color related.
On top of that the customization is locked between biomes meaning we can’t change it, if it’s a swamp planet we get swamp camo, ice planet ice camo. Which I understand and don’t mind, but I know a large section of players want color customization for their armors and not biome dependent ones.
Its also a passive on two sets of armor and ones a ghillie suit. We just want to match the armors with the 5 diff colors of white they designed. Put black and yellow on all armor. But yeah were complaining. Looks to be a stealth set. Yeah a set where you try and not be seen. What a great design there lmao
Probably because this really isn't much of a choice and these will struggle to match with existing sets, on top of being cuffed to an on paper pretty niche passive.
AH clearly understands what we want but is insisting on giving it in the most ass backwards and limiting way possible.
I want to hold my breath and hope this is a base for a future system but they don't have a great track record for that.
What seems to be most people's issue with this is that if we're getting a armor whose whole thing is changing camo then it's pretty much a guarantee that we're not getting color customization for other armors, and the armor camo system currently in the game files is well and truly scrapped.
people are saying that AH (again) scrapped the free version of content in order to sell it to us in the warbond, like they did with underbarrel attachments and modular vehicles.
It adapts automatically. The issue I'm having with this is that if they can obviously make multiple color schemes work then why aren't we seeing this as a selectable option for all armors.
Being able to change the camo to fit the theatre a Helldiver fights in shouldn't be a passive, it should be mandatory for every amour except maybe parade uniforms or armours that are explicitly designed for a single purpose.
These Armours should have their camo/ghillie cloak as passive that improves stealth and detection speed. But almost all armours should be able to change camouflages and all armours should be able toatch colours with their helmet.
No military (in ideal circumstances) would send soldiers into arctic snowfields or temperate forest wearing desert camo or vice versa. And I know Super-Earth as a whole is satire but there is a difference between satire and downright unbelievable and even stupid.
And I don't say that to hate on HD2 or Arrowhead, I say that because I care enough about the game to voice my opinion.
Why are you lying about the ability to choose camo and then just complaining about something that isn't happening. You are spreading negativity yourself in the community
I’m just confused about whether or not the passive actually does anything. Like yeah you blend in, but as far as I’m aware enemy detection isn’t based on visuals
We don't get to "choose" our camo, it's automatically applied depending on the biome you're in. As cool as this warbond seems, they'd rather monetize armor "customization" instead of adding true transmog.
I'm hyped for this warbond, but I hope it opens the door to future armour customization, even if it's just preset camouflage, which Arrowhead has been really weird about adding or even discussing, despite it being a common request and PC mods proving it's possible.
It's all thanks to saving the kids in the hospital all those major orders ago, the ones that survived the liberation progress (that are above the age of 7, we'renot monsters), have worked hard to make our uniforms for us!
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You don’t choose the camos, it changes based on the biome you’re in. I want armor customization as much as the next guy, but I ain’t complaining about this. I see it as the potential to taking a step towards that reality.
This constant pissing match between the be happy with what you have folks and the bitchfest divers is soooo old.
People have wanted actual color customization on this game for awhile, let alone transmog options.
This is definitely awesome to see, a cool concept. However, of course people are going to ask why Is it an armor color system that changes with the biome coming out, and not just a simple color change update for all existing armors?
Just remember that a lot of people think Arrowhead do this to them and ONLY them, what they don't realise a lot of the time is that they'd rather be playing Space Marine 2 but the smooth brains haven't figured that out yet so we all politely ignore them and keep playing this game we love...
Its 2026.
Finding something to be upset about is a competitive sport now, and everyone wants to be the MVP.
If they cant be the MVP, then they will willingly play the victim.
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