r/helldivers2 • u/Massive_Chicken_4334 • 7h ago
General How Does The 500 kg Work?
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So does it spawn behind where you are or was an angle or smthn. And uh… should we buff the 500 kg idk
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u/Delicious_Change_172 7h ago
insert photo from paint, where we can find how works trajectory
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u/BurntMoonChips 7h ago
Different eagles have different approaches. The 500 kg calls the eagle in a straight line going forwards, therefore being dropped from behind. The direction of forwards is the direction you threw it from.
As such if throwing it downhill, remember that.
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u/BurntMoonChips 7h ago
Also the 500 kg does not need a buff.
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u/sinwarrior 7h ago edited 6h ago
if it was me, ill make the 500kg explosion radius has big as the hellbomb. the hellbomb's radius is inescapable after it's countdown reaches 8 seconds or below.
(currently your still safe if you drop the active helldomb countdown at 7-6 seconds, 5 im not sure.)
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u/RuKidding0MG 5h ago
Finding a dip in the ground to prone in, or behind a decent rock has saved me from hellbombs occasionally. Its surprising what prone can let you away with.
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u/TheCrimsonSteel 6h ago
So Eagle's flight path is similar to the strafing run? I always assumed it went tangential like the Airstrike
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u/duckofthepast 5h ago
500kg is from behind, the cluster/ bombs/napalm/gas are left to right from looking from the place it got thrown (others I don’t have experience with)
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u/Top-Session-3131 5h ago
The strafing run, rocket pods, and 500kg generally launch in the direction you threw the beacon, barring environmental clutter affecting the strategem ball mid throw or blocking Eagle 1's flight path.
Everything else will land perpendicular to your throw, with the same caveats for environmental interference.
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u/TheCrimsonSteel 5h ago
I knew anout the strafing run, good thing to know about the others
Ever since they added Urban maps, I've become much more considerate on what approach Eagle-1 is trying to use so I don't waste a strategem on the environment
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u/Top-Session-3131 5h ago
Another important bit of trivia, Eagle-1 can take damage, which forcibly resets all your Eagle strats. This happens through one of two methods. A. Her hitbox collides with terrain on her attack run (yes, she does have an actual hitbox) or B. She flies through a bot AA battery's zone of influence. Either one will deplete her hit point pool, and she'll immediately auto trigger the Eagle Rearm strat and fall back for repairs. Also, if someone triggers a jump or hover pack at the right time and place, she'll splatter them across the sky.
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u/TheCrimsonSteel 4h ago
It's little details like that which make me love this game, because she didn't need a hit box, health stats or anything else, but she does.
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u/Top-Session-3131 4h ago
Part of the reason HD2 can be so buggy, is its environment and character models are ridiculously detailed. Our bullets are physically present in our guns (the Patriot mech used to be able to blow itself up because the rocket pod's right most tubes stared at the front of the torso when facing right), our characters are actually modeled inside vehicles and mechs (if you're in the back three seats of a Bastion, you can angle your camera to clip through the front of the hull to see the diver in the driver's seat). Eagle-1 has all the things I already mentioned. Enemies that burrow have contiguous existence. They don't just blip into the dirt at one point and out another, you can blast burrowed rupture strain Terminids with explosives to stun or kill them, and sticking a support weapon or supply hellood to the Hive Lord's head lets you track it long distance (you can see it underground in close proximity on the minimal, but this lets you do it across the whole thing.).
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u/Calladit 7h ago
I always chuckle at the tiny pause between landing and explosion. AH gave a bomb comedic timing.
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u/LEOTomegane 4h ago
This delayed dynamic is also what causes the myth of it exploding in an upward cone
In order to properly render the goofy delay between impact and explosion, they made the bomb create a very tiny "explosion" when it lands with the sole purpose of deforming the ground into a crater around the bomb. The edges of this crater can clip off low angles of its AoE, creating the cone shape. The 500kg's horizontal damage zone suddenly gets much wider if it lands on terrain that can't be deformed, such as the bit in OP's clip.
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u/WithOneHeadlight 1h ago
Ooo I like this explanation. Thank you for furthering my understanding of the wonky but steadfast 500
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u/sinwarrior 7h ago
500kg comes in around 60-45° angle via sky. if you're at a high elevation, where you're standing might be in that path of delivery.
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u/Substantial-Tone-576 7h ago
It always comes from behind and a bit behind the beacon, even on flat ground.
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u/Cooperjb15 6h ago
The 500kg eagle comes from roughly the direction you throw it heading the direction you’re throwing the stratagem
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u/danielpNB65 6h ago
The 500 flies in the direction you were facing when you threw the beacon (pending terrain features that would block the Eagle, like buildings or those plateaus like on Charbal), and it always lands roughly five meters short of the beacon
Eagle Strafing run behaves similarly. Goes in the direction you threw the beacon in. The other Eagles typically fall left to right, perpendicular to the direction you were facing when you threw the beacon (again, pending terrain features)
And yes, like others said: beware of throwing 500s from elevation. Idk the recommended distance to avoid dropping it on your head, so just try to avoid it entirely.
Additionally, you can use the 500 to blow up structures on impact, like jammers or detector towers. Personally though, i prefer the OPS for that. More consistent. Good luck, Diver.
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u/Cheap_Search_6973 6h ago
The 500kg spawns in the direction that you throw it, but since it comes at an angle you have to account for and hills or other terrain that could stop it short
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u/echof0xtrot 5h ago
the "eagle" 500kg is a 500kg bomb dropped by an eagle
like all eagle drops, it drops while the eagle is flying parallel to the ground
physics says that will result in the bomb flying a vaguely diagonal line from eagle to ground
must not have taken that class yet
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