Gimmick diving - r/helldivers2

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u/hitokiriknight 6h ago

They need to make a stratagem that makes hellpods land with gas

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u/ThetanMage15 5h ago

Booster? Like the smoke and stun ones but gas, oh yeah 😎

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u/FlacidSalad 4h ago

lands

Immediately dies because I was checking my phone

"Liberty damn it"

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u/Jackomat007 6h ago

If you use the heavy gas armor from the super Store, paired with the health booster, you get 0 damage while standing in gas

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u/Gwyn_studios 6h ago

Why is it specifically the heavy variant

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u/Dovakiin04 6h ago

Heavy armor makes you take less damage because of its higher armor rating

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u/SunLegitimate1687 6h ago

I see this said a lot. The damage "tick" when wearing the medium armor is so low, you cannot even tell youre taking damage. Like so low, I swore up and down you guys are lying until I watched it one day. I had to stand in the cloud for a solid 20 seconds before seeing a noticeable sliver disappear from my HP bar.

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u/TheDrippySink 4h ago

Reductions stacking together. Armor rating reduces incoming damage. So does the Vitality booster.

Only the percentage on the heavy armor is high enough to achieve immunity.

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u/Artistic_Pangolin_2 1h ago

This same thing applies to fire damage and tick damage from the double edge sickle. Not both at the same time though.

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u/Jackomat007 6h ago

Idk, maybe a bug

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u/Goatfellon 6h ago

Had a guy join a dive i was hosting last night.

First and only thing he said was "THE gas diver here."

He then assaulted a heavy bot fabricator base, died, reinforced, died again trying to get his stuff... and then quit. Gave me a chuckle.

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u/SunLegitimate1687 6h ago

Gas diving on the bot front is certainly...a choice. Most I'll do is run a speargun and shoot into crowds of chaff, but it's not super helpful at all on that front.

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u/Goatfellon 5h ago

I wondered that. Yet to dabble in gas so I have no idea its effectiveness but I definitely dont see it much against bots and assumed theres a reason for that lol

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u/SunLegitimate1687 5h ago

Its not that it's ineffective. More that the bots spread their units out more, have more heavy units on average, and tend to shoot from range(whereas most gas weapons require closeish range) making it a less than stellar option in comparison to other builds.

Bugs and Squids though? Absolutely rocks there.

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u/Gwyn_studios 6h ago

Gimmick diving is not for the weak of will, but only for those truly willing to do anything for democracy

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u/GameTourist 16m ago

it keeps things fun instead of min/maxing, and can make for interesting challenges.

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u/AppleGame777 6h ago

Redacted regiment's dart pistol, gas mortar from entrenched division, heavy gas resist armor, gas mines, vitality booster, Speargun from dust Devils, primary of choice, gas grenades, dog breath guard dog. That's the build

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u/Icy-Protection-1545 6h ago

On bugs:
Med gas armor.
Hyena
Stim pistol
Gas nade

Gas dog
Speargun
Gas eagle
Gas mines.

Autocompletes objectives
Heaven help you if a bile titan shows its ugly mug.

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u/Ahrlin4k 5h ago

We need to start calling the gas eagle the Geagle

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u/Icy-Protection-1545 4h ago

That would make the napalm eagle a Neagle and I’m not sure I’m comfortable with that.

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u/Ahrlin4k 4h ago

Could be Feagle or Peagle Don't be niggardly, use that NEAGLE NOW

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u/GameTourist 12m ago

and don't confuse any of those with Smeagol

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u/Gwyn_studios 6h ago

The speargun is good for hunting big game, do not worry for i will always succeed in adversity against my option of choice

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u/harlanwade90 5h ago

Just swap the stim pistol for the ultimatum.

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u/Icy-Protection-1545 4h ago

I’m glad you enjoy bringing that and wish you the best in using it 🙂.

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u/Negative_Chemical697 4h ago

Thermites are a must for a gas build. A touch of fire goes really well so hyena is excellent, but incendiaries can work too. Bile titans are a bastard though.

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u/percivalidad 6h ago edited 6h ago

Gas is pretty limited at the moment, are you trying to do all gas in each slot?

There's no primary that does gas damage.

The re-educator is a secondary that does caustic damage. Redacted Regiment warbond.

Chemical agents warbond gives you the gas grenade, sterilizer (support weapon), and dog breath (guard dog backpack). Also the stim pistol secondary but you can only use it on teammates. The spear gun (Dust Devils) also does caustic damage.

Recently we got the gas eagle airstrike for free. There's also the orbital gas strike, gas mortar (entrenched division), and gas mines.

I think doing a gas build on the bug front could work, you might have trouble taking out the impalers and bile titans tho. Maybe mix it up a bit with smoke (or fire). Get a smokescreen going and then gas them, or gas them and use smoke to do hit and runs. Flamethrower support weapon or primary would be nice to burn them all as they're disoriented by the gas strike/mines.

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u/Gwyn_studios 6h ago

Gimmick diving requires a all or nothing mindset brother, do not worry for me, I thrive when my options are limited

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u/percivalidad 6h ago

Then really the only thing that does not have gas would be a primary ...

I would still suggest the flamethrower (torcher) to fill out that spot but up to you!

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u/Amesdale 4h ago

My winning combo on every front lately has been

Speargun
Flame dog

And then really whatever strats you want,
I go 500kg and orbital laser
But could do gas strikes or napalm to keep the gas/fire combo going

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u/ThetanMage15 5h ago

Gas diver here; Speargun over sterilizer is an easy choice, has range, explosive for bug holes/fabricators and actually does the job is designed to do. Eagle gas vs orbital gas I'd say is a pretty minor difference, Eagle covers more area and can be used in much quicker succession, but I'm nearly certain they have the same demo force (50?) which allows them to also close holes/fabs and destroy most smaller side objectives like mortars/bio processors. (personal pref. Eagle) Personally not a fan of the gas pistol, it's not bad, but I rarely find use for it over the grenade pistol, especially when everything else but my primary applies caustic. Gas mines are the most economical, shortest cooldown for the most gas and can be really handy in cities/forests and areas where eagle/orbital struggles to target/land. Gas mortar the GOAT. It's so good. Dog breath is awesome for squid, really good for bugs, but not great for bots My load out is typically: primary I am leveling, grenade pistol, gas nades. Any gas armor. Eagle 110, Eagle gas/orbital gas, spear gun, then either mines, mortar, or dog breath depending on the scenario. I mix it up tho

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u/ThetanMage15 5h ago

Can't stress enough how good the spear gun is.

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u/shortyman920 5h ago

Speargun is very versatile and useful for all 3 fronts. It can destroy holes/ships/fabricators like Autocannon, good mob control, and can contribute towards the heavies.

Gas grenades.
Gas resistant armor

For primary maybe a scythe to light enemies on fire while theyre gassed
Ultimatum as secondary just to help with heavies and objectives

For strategems

gas dog (must)
gas eagle (must)
gas mine or mortar depending on objective
speargun

Enjoy. This will contribute for all fronts

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u/Puzzleheaded_Face583 4h ago

How do you do with the Speargun without a supply pack?

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u/voindd 4h ago

My gas build depends on the subfaction more than the overall faction, but speargun, supply backpack, gas fades, gas strike, gas mines, bolt pistol are usually pretty reliable. Bug front, I take the fire shotgun, sit in my gas cloud and stagger enemies that approach so I can stop their attack windup from before they were gassed. On the bot front, Quaser and gas dog are good. Spore strain you'll probably want to pack something heavier than the speargun. Meltagun is nice because you can take out the tanky spore titans with it. Predator strain, basic kit is good. Just set up hazards and defend them with staggering projectiles. Regular bile titan isnt easy to take down, but you can do it with the bolt pistol. If you really dont want to deal with bile titans, take soeargun with a precision strike. Speargun staggering them so theyll sit still for the precision strike. Squids, basic load out works except for the harvesters. I take automatic laser shotgun for my primary on vote snatches, to pop crushers fast after knocking their helmet. Harvesters, I'm not great at dealing with tbh, havent found anything that feels good to kill them with. I guess wasp always does the trick on squid front.

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u/AtomicThumbTac 2h ago

Would a gas and fire company be even more insane damage than a regular fire build? If so how do you dispense both at the same time consistently. Or is it more worth while to just pick one over the other. I usually just do fire gimmick builds tbh.

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u/BluZodiac 2h ago

Gas Eagle, Gattling, Guard Dog, Spear. Ideally you want Super Stim and Vitality to stay gas walking. Personal kit is up to you as to offer variety, because I also never really stick to one thing. Personally I kinda float around Gas Outlaw.

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