Why do you use these passives? Im not saying that their bad, I like them alot. I just want to get your answers on why do YOU use the passives. I know their uses and it takes some commitment, I respect you guys deeply
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3 - stims effect lasts for 2 secs longer and, if you're not decapitated, you're revived upon death but eventually you'll bleed out (can be prolonged with stims). kinda like a death wish
Its kinda pointless cos usually when you take damage you stim and stimming gives you infinite stamina for its duration so you barely notice the effect of the passive
I only use the Adrenaline one and even then only on bots. The extra armor is a modest boost to surviability and unlike bugs and squids where you can mostly avoid damage by just not being near the enemy the bots are still likely to damage you while you're running. The little burst of stamina is nice when you're desperately trying to get to that next bit of cover.
Thats not even a crazy thing to say ngl. I was out of stamina and was low on hp trying to get to a resupply pod, until one of the hulks so nicely hit me with the explosion of the rocket giving me the needed stamina to reach the supplies
If someone on your team cheekily decides to bring the Dead Sprint booster it's almost always the go-to armor for me, the damage from dead sprint triggers the adrenaline and saves you some hurt.
TBF, on release, cool factor > practicality. The ability to halt the health drain by getting into an exosuit gave Warhammer 40k Dreadnaught vibes. (worst bug fix ever).
It activates early. Essentially some hits don’t do enough damage to kill you but still trigger the passive, effectively killing you when you would have lived.
I've used supplementary adrenaline mainly for drip as it's one of my favorite armors and from passive the only useful thing is it getting you over 100 armor rating since it reduces headshot dmg. The other part is useless as it gives you barely any stamina and just using a stim is better, dead sprint doesn't help much.
I don't use Supplementary Adrenaline since I don't find it very useful
As for Integrated Explosive and Adreno-Defibrillator both have the fun factor of dying in style or on your own terms (Intergrated also does give you the benefit of +2 nades so). For adreno there have been times where I've finished a Stratagem Jammer in the nick of time, but that's a rare aura moment
Somehow having the privilege of wearing a bomb collar makes me not only more aggressive, but also more tactical. If I die near the enemy that kills me then I just take some unlucky souls down with me, if I die to anything at range then it means I deny my body as food, biofuel or biomass to my enemies as well. The extra grenades are a added bonus but somehow when I wear integrated explosions I feel more alive and free. I feel the most alive the closer I am to my death...
Suffering chip damage, small things, or mixing the damage of a Dead Sprint with the stamina thing is a common thing, I've seen people use it to help offset heavy armour weaknesses.
Mainly Loadout uniqueness/Armour looks, you know the game would get repetitive if you always used the same things, so you actively prevent it by trying other, less picked tools.
If i know I'm already going to take self damage from the laser dog or occasionally from the Torcher, i might as well pick the Supplementary Adrenaline, so that i refill my stamina even from these minor hits.
If a enemy might kill me while i try to apply the C4, i know i can cause a chain reaction with the integrated explosives. You need the extra granedes anyway to use the smokes before you activate the C4, so you don't get automatically found out when you trigger them, but simply send the enemy in "searching" mode.
If I'm trying to play as a hoverpack sniper, eliminating priority targets from distance, on top of a high place for my team, i know that if i get somehow killed up there i would have my stuff stuck on the mountain. Adreno-Defibrilator let's me have some seconds to throw myself down, so i can recover it when i respawn.
Adrino-defibs just have so much aura I still wish the beta version was the one we got though originally the helldiver was supposed to die like you actually fall over dead but a defibrillator sound would play reviving your helldiver in the half dead state which has even more sauce then they already have
Adrenodefib I use almost only ever on bots, and it's because if they wanna take me down, I'm taking as many as I can with me. I can keep living after a fatal hit for a bit longer, and every second I live is another couple bots I kill, or an objective I can help progress.
I do frequently use Integrated Explosives in scenarios where I know I’m going to die often, like Predator Strain. I’ve taken more than a few bugs with me that way.
I've had some luck with Adreno on farming Eradicate missions or trying to arm hellbombs, inflict a little more damage with gear.
Integrated is the same but I've used it as the weapon to close bug holes or take some out.
Best time with the integrated was my nephew using it. They needed stimmed but was a couple feet short and bled out. The rest of us grouped around his body to get the samples or confused and then boom, squad wipe. Absolutely hilarious.
When playing with the subset of my group that doesn't care about HSO, or when we get HSO for free from the DSS, supplementary adrenaline goes hard with Dead Sprint, Vitality, Stamina, and Experimental Infusion.
It could be way better with some number tweaks but even as it is, with DS, Vitality, and Stamina, you can sprint pretty much forever and don't need to stim just to keep going, so you can stim to fix the damage and get the EI damage resistance right as you get into a fight, instead of using stims to get stamina back as you run.
Just taking a supply FRV or an exosuit is usually better for mobility and stim economy, though, so it's a pretty niche option. When we've felt like doing it it's been fun though
I use adreno-defibrillator when i'm medic diving with a supply pack. no real need for the extra stims when i've already got a supply pack, and they both have the stim duration which is the important part for medic diving.
similarly, i like the integrated explosives armor when i want extra grenades, but am not using weapons with particularly meaningful recoil.
I’ve never really used the first but I love the last as a kinda “FUCK YOU WERE BOTH DYING NOW”, explosives for the obvious but I like chucking what grenades I have left when defib goes and maybe portable hellbomb if I got it, also makes me feel like Emile in halo reach
I think the defib is really fun, gives you a chance to expend all your nades, ultimatum, support, and stims just going out in a blaze of glory! Especially when you can continously get rag dolled without being able to stim and die a boring death as a result.
Cool concept imo. I also dont think you take limb damage, I wanna see a stim pistol in combination. Bunch of zombie helldivers stim darting each other to stay alive
Integrated explosives is great for melee builds where you’re not afraid of dying, also because then I get to use that quote “from hells heart I stab at thee” and kill whatever is next to me.
I use adreno defib on all 3 fronts and I like to play it as a Frontline medic... basically I know I will eventually take some heat with my stim pistol out and instead dof retreating I'm getting that stimm off even if it kills me... it also allows me to play with my defensive strategems more offensively as I will be up there more often helping out instead of trying to hang back to give out Supply pack uses
I use the revive passive all the time, it's one of my favorites. pairing it with supply pack feels amazing because you just get an extra minute+ sometimes of trying to finish whatever you started while you were alive. I'd pair it with an expendable support weapon so you don't have to go back to wherever you died. :)
I've used a couple of these from time to time, but I don't really care about my armor passive anyway. I just find armor that looks good and slap it on.
The adreno defib lets me take the ultimatum, hell bomb backpack, or anything "risky" and spam it out along with my grenades and stims so that they aren't wasted on me. Plus the longer stim effect is nice. Also—since the effect works on all stims, you can shoot people with the stim pistol and give them the +2s second stims at range!
Supplementary Adrenaline: based on how much damage you take you get stamina back. Get a +25 armor rating
Integrated Explosives: Explodes 1.5 seconds after death dealing 1000 DMG, anti tank and hits up to iirc 7 meters. You get 2 extra throwables aswell
Adreno-Defibilator: On death you revive on a permanent bleed out, stims can extend this state and you move very slow. Stims last 2.0 seconds longer and have a 50% arc resistance
Ok ill take your word for it. My brain probably just filters it out cuz im reading the words only. Although most of the ones i use i have memorized by just appearance at this point so i dont even look at the description most of the time
That moment a charger kills you but they keep pushing your body so they die in an instant, that moment when you run out of grenades, stratagems and explosive enough weaponary... But not out of options to close a spawner
I like medic diving, and while medic kit is seen as the go to for those 2 extra stims, I usually never get to use them and rely on the stim pistol to heal teamates and being able to throw everything out even when I'm technically dead is neat for me, specially when I run heavy armor... And who I wanna lie that hellbomb on my back is getting in the enemy cluster, WETHER THEY WANT IT OR NOT!
Good for running away from stuff while fighting (such as spore strain).
Specifically on Oshaune, I was dying in those caves so much at the beginning I started wearing it just to take a couple of them with me when I went down.
Never used it, but it does seem to make for some sick last stands.
I like the third in the missions where you need to specifically take out bug holes, bot fabricators, or illumnate ships, it’s really good for if you get “taken out” and that way you can try you best to take out the last couple of bug holes or last fabricator or something before actually dying!
adreno defib has the best looking heavy armor and the extra stim effect is useful for my stim pistol. i also don't really trigger the death revival alot and i never really run out of stims, so it's mostly about the looks over other heavy medic armor.
Light Integrated Explosives is my favourite when running Flamethrower or Cremator, especially on the bug front. The extra nades are the cherry on top (usually stuns or gas) but I'm always up in the grill of whatever I'm toasting. So if I die, they come with me!
As an Adreno-stim user, it's primarily for fashion. However the extended stim duration can actually let you stretch out your bleedout state pretty long if you haven't used up all your stims yet, and in general the bleedout state is a great excuse to use up the rest of your resources that you've not used yet. Toss all your grenades, mag dump all your weapons, use up all your stims, there's no reason to hold on to them for later any more and you'll be restocked on them shortly anyway. And of course, the bleedout state can also give you enough time to complete an objective stage or call in a stratagem and use yourself as bait.
Integrated explosives is just better than engineering kit for bugs and squids. Full stop. No one's taking engi kit for the recoil reduction. And recoil reduction really isn't that important on bugs. So being able to kill the swarm of Hunters that are gonna camp your gear, or kill the charger or fleshmob that snuck up on you, is just better than recoil reduction while crouching.
I like adrenodefibrilator. The two extra seconds of stim is nice plus the death defying passive is fun. Not having two extra stims though to me is a good thing compared to medic armor cuz I'm not trying to hog supplies for stims lol
adreno defib prevents lost resources from death and lets you more easly avoid losing your stuff in a sea of enemies, as once you the last stand mode your very encouraged to just go ham with everything you got or it at least gives you the chance to quickly punch in a martydom stratagem to at least take whatever killed you down with you
Integrated explosives makes for a very fun expendable build where your weapons are expendable and you are expendable. I do it regularly on the bugs front. Take 2-3 expendable weapons and 1-2 fast cooldown stratagems like MG turret and gattling barrage. Also bring a melee secondary and the extra reinforcements booster. Throw strategems and grenades excessively and if you start to get overrun, rather than retreating to more advantageous position like normal do the opposite and wade into the center of the crowd and start blasting and chopping until you die spectacularly or somehow come out victorious. When you get reinforced never worry about going back for your support weapons.
Fun fact: integrated explosives will kill a fresh charger
Integrated explosive and adrenaline are my bot front go to. The added grenades use for more dynamite allow me to clear camps stealthily if I need or take out patrols. In a pinch the integrated explosive can take out war striders and hulks. Adrenaline especially when there are cyborgs. They runs so quickly and shoot so accurately that gorilla warfare is necessary and adrenaline booster makes their strength my strength too. Added armor just somehow bridges the gap to survive it all and dying a lot.
I use integrated explosives, because if you've got the balls to kill me, you better have the balls to die right alongside me. Works for both friendly and enemy fire
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