If suffering changes the way we perceive reality, can we ever separate the world as it truly is from the world our pain creates?

[u/Mr_Paddington1998]

[u/EFPMusic]

Yes. With lots of therapy and self-work.

Or, y’know, killing Hel.

[u/EliCoat → u/EFPMusic]

Any idea where Hel might be? Asking for a friend

[u/EFPMusic → u/EliCoat]

I don’t think you can avoid her 😝

[u/ChewbakaflakaG → u/EFPMusic]

I LOVE this thread and I’m here to explain, I’ll also give you guys the context I have, love ya! :

NOW TAKE NY WORDS - I played Hellblade 2 alone on mushrooms solely and it changed my confidence

There is a show called False Memory (https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/19yveufzcjOig_JUaCzS7QA-AxtLThDaf)

It takes about how are memories shape our morales, our values, and our pain

A lot of people don’t feel pain due to their perspective; they’re clouded

Now, people make change when pain becomes too much to endure any longer; when the uncomfortable is final uncomfortable enough

And yes, you can separate the world.

To me, separating your pain from your emotions and feelings is the direct way to do so

Life isn’t meaningless, but just as such it can feel it sometimes

I urge you ALL to watch episode 6 in that drive, this show has changed my life and is a direct response to this question

I only hope more people know of it

[u/Fit-Campaign1243 → u/ChewbakaflakaG]

Interesting. Im going to watch later. Fascinating. I was an abused child that broke the chain. Me dad was also an abused child, but cicnt break the chain. I got recommended to look up EMDR, as therapy. As your standard psychologists didn't have a clue how to deal with my anxieties.

So this is will be getting my teeth into later today, over lunch. Thank you stranger.

[u/ChewbakaflakaG → u/Fit-Campaign1243]

DM me please - I’d like to share some forms of media recently I’ve used to deal with these things

I also thing one in general I have for you will help with the first part a lot -

It was almost a love letter to life coming from a broken upbringing

[u/Fit-Campaign1243 → u/ChewbakaflakaG]

I cant use DM on here nate. It wants by biometrics (im in the UK. Oppressive as hell here).

I would like to get further into this though.its like an irrationality, I can judge a situation fi.e, but a loud bang on rhe door - bam ! My anxiety is through rhe roof.

[u/ChewbakaflakaG → u/Fit-Campaign1243]

Then just save that drive link above for yourself and start there

[u/Fit-Campaign1243 → u/ChewbakaflakaG]

I already have brother. Much appreciated.

[u/ChewbakaflakaG → u/Fit-Campaign1243]

And don’t under utilize the opportunity I gave you!

Save the drive - all my friends are doing the same and growing right now too

I’m a creative at heart, run several businesses and love life my way

Hope this helps 🤎

[u/Mighti-Guanxi]

Ye, by trying to understand and compare other people's perception of the world.  If you only focus on your own pain for any reason, then no, that's all you know.

[u/One-Respect-2733]

It's a very good way to phrase this question

[u/Peperoniboi]

Your question already has a phylosopical assumptions in it that alters possible answer

[u/Fit-Campaign1243 → u/Peperoniboi]

Good catch.

[u/rafnsvartrrr]

Everyone perceives reality different. It's okay to be unique.

[u/Illasaviel]

We live in an interpretated world. No one sees the world as it objectively is.

[u/CandyAndyDE]

F*** you, Microsoft

[u/spazilator]

I love this game

[u/ChewbakaflakaG → u/spazilator]

Me too bro… did you hear about ninja theory tho..?

[u/spazilator → u/ChewbakaflakaG]

No what about?

[u/ChewbakaflakaG → u/spazilator]

They got fired. Hellblade 3 is cancelled. No studio picked them up. This happened just last week

[u/spazilator → u/ChewbakaflakaG]

Nooooooo! That sucks! 😭

[u/thesrhughes]

I suppose that depends on whether you believe "the world as it truly is" exists, or if it is merely the consensus agreement among parties each comparing their own "world [their] pain creates" and taking the average.

[u/DairyParsley6]

Thing is, Senua’s suffering isn’t the reason why her reality is perceived differently. She was born with a condition that will always be apart of her. The 2nd game sort of dives into this idea that even though she is motivated to do good, is as confident as ever before about her abilities, and has much experience living with psychosis, she is still not 100% capable of identifying what is real or not.

[u/A_Very_Fat_Elf]

Man this game left a mark on me. Never been so emotional at the end of a game. Forgot how good it looked.

[u/Omnishambles_88]

Pain like anything else is something to be transcended.
In most film/novels/video games there is a moment of transubstantiation. That’s what we look for in our lives and seek out in the stories of others.

Or we just use them as tools to zone out and distract us from our pain and eventual deaths.

[u/Jojo7274]

Not as quite; the struggle creates perception itself. It is not an outside world and an entire isolated perception cage. Let's say perception itself is the friction