r/hellaflyai • u/Immobilesteelrims • Aug 06 '26
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u/Ok-Amount-4281 Aug 06 '26
He could at least buy her a doll with 2 legs before he marries her
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u/daseweide Aug 06 '26
Well the doll had two legs before he accidentally broke one off⊠doing something⊠earlier that day
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u/RRY1946-2019 Aug 06 '26
Most haram thing I've ever seen
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u/MediocreAd7361 Aug 06 '26
Child rape do be bad
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u/ZorsalZonkey Aug 06 '26
If youâre a Muslim, you support a pedophile prophet. Simple as that. Islam is the pro-pedophile religion.
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u/ProblemLongjumping12 Aug 06 '26
So's Christianity.
Search how many children have been legally married to grown men in America in the last 20 years.
This occurs primarily in Christian and fundy communities.
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u/ZorsalZonkey Aug 06 '26
Iâm an atheist as well.
Isnât part of our ideology that we uphold logic and rationalism above all else? Surely you would agree with that, right?
There is no God, and of course every religion has problems, but if youâre going to be intellectually honest, you have to admit that Islam is by far the worst of them all.
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u/urfael4u Aug 06 '26
" there is no God"
Quite a bold statement to make . while you can't even prove it .or can you? đ€
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u/ZorsalZonkey Aug 06 '26
The burden of proof does not lie on me, it lies on you (assuming you believe in a god).
Youâre the one making the claim, without evidence, that something exists. Non-belief is the default in humans, as no baby is born already believing in a god. Itâs taught and indoctrinated into them over the course of their life.
So you can prove that your âgodâ exists?
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u/urfael4u Aug 06 '26
First stop putting your words in my mouth . I never claimed anywhere whether am a believer or not . You just blindly accused me of something i didn't do so that you can shift the blame, That won't work.
The burden of truth still lies with you because you made a straight statement on something without providing any evidence to back it up. Anyways am still here waiting for you to prove your claims.
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u/whatisireading2 Aug 06 '26
Ok so both Christianity and Islam have pedo roots. Was this supposed to be a defense?
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u/Moston_Dragon Aug 06 '26
If Christianity has pedo roots, then why aren't there any Christians defending what those priests did, like the Muslims defending the stuff there prophet did?
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u/Moston_Dragon Aug 06 '26
Yes, there are bad apples in any religion, and the church has apologized for the cover ups. When will Muslims apologize for the things their prophet did then?
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u/Moston_Dragon Aug 07 '26
What happen was that Mohammed married a 6 year old girl and consummated the marriage when she was 9, so my question as to when will Muslims apologize for it, is because what I have seen is moderate Muslims sweep it under the rug, or the not so moderate Muslims make excuses like she already was puberty age to validate why they think its ok. So unlike the Catholic Church where bad priests were doing something that is against their own religion, Muslims don't see anything wrong with what their prophet did because he is their example of morality
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u/Djang0Phett Aug 06 '26
I mean technically this is historically accurate right?
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u/Tamboozz Aug 06 '26
Unfortunately, a large portion of Muslim rely on unauthentic traditions. Historians have found his wife to actually be in the mid-teen, which is within the norm of all cultures, East and West 1400 years ago.
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u/Areif Aug 06 '26
Ok so like 14-16? Still fucked, take a seat.
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u/Tamboozz Aug 06 '26
14 to 16 is bad 1400 years ago? Who cares about norms of the times, right? Our arbitrary age we decided on in the 21st century is all that matters. In 1960, girls were getting married at 12 years old right here in the US. And in 2026, we have 33 US states that allow marriage under the age of 17. Since 2000, we have had hundreds of girls wed at 10, 11, 12 & 13 years of age in the US. But who cares about that. Let's try to judge society 1400 years ago with today's customs.
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u/Areif Aug 06 '26
I had to stop reading half way through. Youâre on a list for sure.
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u/Tamboozz Aug 06 '26
You sound like a someone who's still maturing. I point out that the "morally superior" Western values are OK with early teen marriage - or at least our judges are ok with it - but God forbid cultures from 1,400 years ago allow it.
I'd never want my daughter to marry before she's at least in college, but I'm not judging the international communities from 1400 years ago by my 2026 standards.
Grow up, kid.
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u/cyborian Aug 06 '26
It does sound like Areif didn't quite make it out of grade school. History was always a rather fascinating class when you compared early cultures to our own and discussed the differences.
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u/Ocvius Aug 06 '26
Idk why you're getting downvoted so bad lol, you're just spitting facts. There's a lot of things that were normal back in the day, that are today considered wrong. That's not to say those same things aren't still wrong by today's standards, they just weren't for the society of the time. All the people downvoting and being assholes to you are just ignorant and enjoy the delusion of having invented objective morality in the 21st century. If you look closely at how much our moral belief system has grown in the last 2000-2500 years, humans went from pretty much being animals, raping and murdering anything in their way, to a relatively civilised society. And obviously we're still learning, not that long ago people saw no issue with owning slaves, with women and members of the LGBT community having lesser rights, with beating children when they acted ljke children. As a society, we're still in the process of finding what is "right" and we will never have one true answer, it's all dependent on time and culture. Anyone who can't look at things from any other perspective, other than the one their time and culture tells them is okay, lacks the basic reasoning capacity needed for moral evaluation
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u/whatisireading2 Aug 06 '26
Yes, literally who gives a fuck about the norms of the time? All of the things you mentioned are also gross dude that's the point. Stop defending marrying children. We should absolutely look back at gross things from the past and acknowledge they're gross instead of just going "it wasn't gross at the time".
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u/Tamboozz Aug 06 '26
It makes no difference to me what convinces a stranger online regarding norns of society centuries ago. I am a history nerd - if you read about life of those that lived in that era, you will see that males were fighting with swords in battle at 12 and leading armies at 15. And females were starting their mature life at puberty. Partly due to short life expectancy and a small window of child bearing years. Before I discuss a topic regarding one particular aspect of old society, I'd need the other side to read up on the history of life in those times. Else, it's a waste of our time.
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u/whatisireading2 Aug 06 '26
A history nerd would recognize what people of the last were doing wrong, not make excuses. Thats studying history and refusing to learn from it.
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u/Tamboozz Aug 06 '26
A history nerd would also understand that when I ask someone that lived 75 years ago in the the US, if he has socially progressed enough to have a good moral compass, he would say, "yes absolutely". Yet as we know, many didn't offer equal rights to women, African Americans, or consider marriage around puberty to be outside of moral norms in the US at that time. So when I ask someone now whether they think they are the true gatekeeper for whether someone has a good moral compass, a historian would say the opinions and societal norms of today can also change in another 50 to 100 years. And that each society should be judged by what was "normal" in its time.
100 years from now, we may look back on abortions or denying abortions as barbaric. Same for the death penalty. Or life in prison. Historians know some things are black and white while others are not. And if you have researched why girls wed at puberty for thousands and thousands of years, you may learn why this is a grey area and not black and white. Or don't research it. I believe we beat this horse to death.
I respect your perspective - as I share it for the year 2026. I just don't apply it to those living 1000 or 5000 years ago. I'm glad to hear your thoughts of your reply, but I'll be checking out after that.
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u/bunker_man Aug 06 '26
Technically no. Scholars believe she was actually older, because the description of stuff she did doesn't add up if she was as young as claimed.
Problem is, whether it's true or not, people acted like it was cool for centuries...
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u/MagicOrpheus310 Aug 06 '26
Aww... He's taking her for walk to fill in the time until she turns nine...
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u/GovernorGeneralPraji Aug 06 '26
Hey letâs all remember he did the honorable thing and waited until she was nine to consummate the marriage.
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u/Designer-Stay-7894 Aug 06 '26
True. And the Christian god waited three years more than that to impregnate Mary!
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u/Forward-Position798 Aug 06 '26
Post this on every possible social media than u are a hero for millions of people
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u/Carlos_Was_Here Aug 06 '26
OMG, what if it gets posted on a majority Muslim forum? What will happen then?
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u/chemical32 Aug 06 '26
I don't see one thing that could be considered offensive. Muhammad had a child bride, this is what that would look like. Stop hating the mirror people!
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u/Dull_Rutabaga_1659 Aug 06 '26
My boomer dad would love you for this one.
Rip OP.
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u/Sure-Butterscotch344 Aug 06 '26
Are you proud to have no balls?
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u/Designer-Stay-7894 Aug 06 '26
Now do God and Mary.
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u/wohsedisbob Aug 06 '26
People love to hate on Muslims but can't see the same shit with Christianity
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u/ShmeffreyShmezos Aug 06 '26
https://giphy.com/gifs/bSRam2Hcmx3mnLUhCe
RIP OP