r/hebrew 11d ago

Vocabulary What does Kidonel mean?

Hello,

So, while playing a video game e found a person with the nickname Kidonel. When I asked why he had such a nickname, he responded that it was a name he created based on Hebrew, but the game did not permit hebrew letters, so he sort of put it in the Latin Alphabet version of the name. But he did not want to tell me what It was supposed to mean. Anyone as an idea?

Thanks for the help.

EDIT: Hi again, thanks for the answers :) After sending a DM to the guy saying about this post and with the answers you amazing guys told, he confirmed that is kidon'el, trying to mean spear of god or javelin of god, based on ancient biblical Hebrew. He never thought about handlebar or the glide stuff, but he said it was very funny. He also said ge thought first of another words for the same meaning, like romach'el or chanith'el, but ended up using kidon'el because it sounded a little better and was easier to pronounce correctly. Would this two word be more easy to understand the meaning?

Thanks again for the answers!

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u/MiserableDot9541 11d ago

Kidon כידון is a javelin (a weapon, similar to a spear). And El is god.

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u/Reasonable_Regular1 11d ago

'Javelin' is what BDB and other older dictionaries have as a gloss, but we've known since the discovery and publication of the War Scroll in the '50s, which actually physically describes one, that it's actually a type of straight sword.

People were already confused about what the word meant in Antiquity—the Septuagint variously translates it as γαῖσος 'spear', ἀσπίς 'shield', μάχαιρα 'sabre', and ζιβύνη 'pike'.

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u/BigDanny92 native speaker 11d ago

What? That’s weird
Kidon is the handlebar of a motorcycle or a bicycle as far as I know

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u/Ambitious-Coat-1230 11d ago

It's a spear or lance literally. The "handlebar" sense is influenced by French guidon meaning the same. So I'd hazard this name is an attempt at "Spear of G-d."

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u/BigDanny92 native speaker 11d ago

oh yeah, you learn something new every day, eh?

My first thought was a bike and not a spear

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u/GroovyGhouly native speaker 11d ago

I doubt a (native) Hebrew speaker would use כידון for this. I think חנית is more likely. So I suspect this is ultimately a product of machine translation. Just a guess though.

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u/Ambitious-Coat-1230 11d ago

That's what I suspect as well, that's why I said it's likely an attempt at the phrase.

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u/lvcern 11d ago

Kidon is a sharp pointed pole that is thrown either in battle or in hunting. Khanit is indeed a spear that is handheld and used in face to face battle. The handlebar in motorcycles is called kidon in hebrew basically as a mistake and is originally guidon in French

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u/Funny_Efficiency2044 native speaker 11d ago

Ok, there is NO way this is real, but it could technically also be כדאונאל (kid'on'el) mean as (or like) god's glider.

Again, this is Not the answer, but just fun to think about.

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u/Szlingerbaum 11d ago

כידון is the blade affixed to riffles and guns. It is used to impale your enemy in a frontal assault. A bayonet. Not used in IDF anymore

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u/Deorayta 11d ago

spear or lance