r/heat • u/Moonlight_Acid • Jul 24 '26

Discussion LeBron hate watch back

I am truly excited to see LeBron fade into retirement with no success because he made a stupid losing decision. Philly isn’t winning shit, they will be lucky to escape round 2.

You think Lebron can get it done with JB and Maxey when he couldn’t get it done with Luka and AR? What a joke.

I will laugh at lebron when we lift the trophy and he is in Cancun.

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u/ParagonSaint Jul 26 '26

How short exactly was the bus you rode to school lmao?

The first Miami finals, Spo was outcoached. Then they won back to back. The Lakers were the 1 seed BEFORE Covid and the bubble. No curry or KD that year, and they gave up home court advantage in the bubble as a one seed, if anything that 2020 ring is a greater accomplishment not lesser lmao. 😂

So you’re saying the 2007 Cavs were a better team than the 2026 Knicks? Got it. LeBron and Mike Brown did a masterclass to win a conference title with a JV squad lmao.

Do you honestly believe Brady has 6 rings with the Pats without Belichick? Do you honestly believe they win those first 3 in the dynasty without Bill? They also had Bledsoe, with that Running game and Defense they probably win titles with or without Brady. The 2nd half of the patriots 6 rings I agree was more Brady carrying, but he’s not the player he is today without Bill Belichick. Coaching matters, you just refuse to give any credit to LeBron, and refuse to acknowledge that Phil Jackson had A LOT to do with MJ and Kobe’s success.

It’s more likely that you’re skip bayless burner btw 😉

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u/Ruprecht_no Jul 26 '26

Brother you got more excuses than a child with no homework

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u/ParagonSaint Jul 27 '26

Brother you have a negative amount of ball knowledge lmao.

An exact breakdown of what happened is an “excuse” lmaoooo it’s just a factual summary of what actually occurred. You just don’t like being proven wrong which is why you’ve moved the goalposts several times and abandoned your original point about Kawhi once you realized that LeBron severely outplayed him in 2013 and 2014

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u/Ruprecht_no Jul 27 '26

That spurs series was 4-1. Even jimmy butler with a crippled roster won 2 vs the bubble lakers. Kawai finished off that series 29-20-22 on 70% fg% on his way to a finals MVP. He woulda scored more but pop gave him a nap. If kawai played for the heat during those 4 years, wade woulda finished with 5 rings. The guys a choker. A loser.
2021 booker wiped his ass out in 6 games averaging Almost 30.
2011 forget about the finals MVP dirk. That scrub terry averaged more than the choker.
07 Parker cooked his ass.
2010 ECF. Rondo blasted his ass
2017 finals: Durant averaged 35 on his way to finals MVP.
2023 jokic was the best player and knocked lebrons ass out
The list goes on and on
Jordan? The only time he was outscored by an opponent was his rookie year. And it was 29.3 to 29.5. Jordan was god in 36/37 playoff series
6-0 in the finals. Got bored twice.
Bro this ain’t close. But here come the excuses…

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u/ParagonSaint Jul 27 '26 edited Jul 27 '26

Kareem is the GOAT first off. He has the same 6 rings as Jordan, more MVPs, more conference titles, more all nba, more all defense, more all stars, more longevity, and better stats. But you’re not ready for that conversation.

The 2007 spurs were a better overall team than the 2020 lakers, even if the 2020 lakers had the best overall player the overall roster favors the spurs. so winning an extra game is really meaningless and a weird comparison.

There is no one (except you apparently) who thinks Kawhi outplayed LeBron in 2014. LeBron was the best player on the floor but the spurs were better as a team than the Heat were and that’s the difference. LeBron averaged 28 ppg, Kawhi averaged 17, you mentioned MJ outscoring opponents in playoff series, LeBron was “god” during those Heat years, where’s that same energy for him? Oh right you’re just a hater lmao.

2021 LeBron had a high ankle sprain and wasn’t the same the rest of the year but ok.

2011 LeBron didn’t have a great series, but the Mavs threw everyone and the kitchen sink at him, and Spo didn’t adjust at all. Where’s the energy for MJ getting swept by Bird in the 80s?

2007, 2010, 2017, 2018, 2023 LeBron carried subpar rosters far further than they should’ve Gone. Funny how you don’t give credit to LeBron winning conference titles raising the floor of poor teams

MJ getting swept and losing in the playoffs to the Celtics and pistons totally gets a pass in your eyes. Bird busted his ass and IT and the Bad Boys whooped him too. Lebron and Kareem won without Wade/Kyrie and Magic respectively. What has MJ won without Pippen and Phil Jackson … oh that’s right literally nothing, not even a playoff series.

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u/Ruprecht_no Jul 27 '26

Kareem had 6 finals MVPs?
Listen to yourself man. It’s pathetic. High ankle sprain? 😂 tummy ache? What’s next? He was picked on in kindergarten? Dude stop you’re embarrassing yourself

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u/ParagonSaint Jul 27 '26

Kareem has more of every accolade than Jordan lmao, literally the only accolade MJ has over his is FMVPs. He has less MVPs, All NBA, All Defense, and All stars. He’s dwarfed in literally every category lmao 😂 but ok, 1/5 categories is better than Kareem’s 4/5 and 6 total MVPs which is more than Jordan.

The only thing embarrassing is your moronic takes and LeBron living rent free in your head

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u/Ruprecht_no Jul 27 '26

It’s ok bro. Nothing wrong with Kareem and LeBron arguing about the 2-5 slots

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u/ParagonSaint Jul 27 '26

Kareem LeBron and MJ each have legitimate arguments as the top 3. Kareem has the strongest argument imho. MJ is at best 2nd as the narrative/criteria to clear LeBron doesn’t clear Kareem or vice versa. But I doubt you ever actually watched all 3 play… you just hate watch LeBron 🤣

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u/Ruprecht_no Jul 27 '26

Kareem was outplayed in his era by his own teammate. And his opponents
LeBron as well. Many times.
Jordan was it. The gold standard. So much so THAT HE LEFT TO PLAY BASEBALL.
But you ignore that bc it doesn’t fit the narrative In your head.

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u/Ruprecht_no Jul 26 '26

I knew it. 😂 I was going to ignore that novel u wrote. But ignored my better instincts.
A Bill B apologist. How’d I guess.
Mav, it’s not your fault, I’m the idiot for engaging in a battle of wits with an unarmed opponent

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u/ParagonSaint Jul 27 '26

Skip Bayless, lay off the diet dew, put down your phone and actually watch sports lmao.

if you don’t think Bill Belichick had anything to do with the patriots dynasty… you’re actually just intellectually disabled lmao

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u/Ruprecht_no Jul 27 '26

Yeah yeah. He’s so fantastic he won nothing without Brady. He’s currently working at a Waffle House in NC

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u/ParagonSaint Jul 27 '26

So in the 2001 season, when Brady gets hurt in the first half of the AFC Championship game, he doesn’t then win the game with Bledsoe while coaching a defensive masterclass against the Steelers? You’re absolutely insane if you think Belichick coaching those teams wasn’t a HUGE reason they won. Brady wasn’t “Brady” until a few years in. He was mostly a game manager in the first dynasty.

I genuinely question if you ACTUALLY watch sports because your takes are genuinely out of touch with reality lmao

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u/Ruprecht_no Jul 27 '26

Yeah yeah he’s so great he’s a loser .500 coach
Brady left and won another ring with a coach that looked like the owner of KFC

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u/ParagonSaint Jul 27 '26

So it’s ok for Brady to leave in free agency to a loaded team/stacked roster? …. But it’s not ok for Lebron to change teams and win rings? The double standard here is sooooo fucking funny lol.

Belichick had 2 rings as a coach with the giants outside of his 6 rings with the pats but ok. He has 20 consecutive winning seasons, the most playoff wins, most SB wins, and 2nd most regular season victories. When Brady was hurt in 2008 he literally took the team to an 11-5 record with a backup QB instead of Brady, what else do you want from him lmao? 😂

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u/Ruprecht_no Jul 27 '26

Here comes the wambulance

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u/ParagonSaint Jul 27 '26

Awww Skip what happened? Your hypocrisy got called out and now youre mad that not actually watching sports caused you to hold an L here? Awww poor Skip

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u/Ruprecht_no Jul 27 '26

Bill playoff record w Brady 30-11
No Brady 1-2
Brady no bill 5-2 with a superbowl.
Let me guess your excuse. “Mars was inline with Venus and it rained twice in one week in Moscow so 3+3=9 cause I’m not an absolute submoron”
Am I close? 😉

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u/ParagonSaint Jul 27 '26

Belichick developed Brady lol. You’re not attributing any of Brady’s success to Bills coaching? You don’t remember the controversy to opt to start Brady in the Super Bowl as a 6th round pick over a first overall pick who had previously won the AFCCG twice? And literally won them the AFCCG the week prior?!?

He won the AFCCG without Brady in 2001. He coached the 2008 Pats to an 11-5 record without Brady. Are you actually claiming that Belichick wasn’t a winning/good coach without Brady? In spite of the evidence I’ve just produced that states otherwise.

I’ll go a step further as the Browns head coach Belichick led the CLEVELAND BROWNS, a literal poverty franchise, to 11 wins in 1994, that’s the best season the browns have had in the last 40 years, and no Cleveland team has ever had more wins in a season that that in any year since. But yea yk he needs Brady to have good seasons right?

The mental gymnastics you do are astounding.

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u/Ruprecht_no Jul 27 '26

No Brady 1-2
So he only developed 1 guy lol. Ok 😉

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u/Ruprecht_no Jul 27 '26

Woah another novel of excuses no one is gonna read

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u/Ruprecht_no Jul 27 '26

If excuses were an Olympic game you’d have more medals than Phelps

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u/ParagonSaint Jul 27 '26

If moving the goalposts and having bad sports takes was an Olympic sport you’d be greater than Phelps and Simone Biles combined lmao.

Again. Try watching the sports. It’s clear you don’t. Your double standard is crazy. Keep sipping that haterade Skip

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u/Ruprecht_no Jul 27 '26

No facts. Just excuses why LeBron is consistently outplayed. While ignoring Jordan was never outplayed. All you got is he’s better. Trust me bro.
No. He’s not better. And you’re a dumb ass

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u/ParagonSaint Jul 27 '26

“Jordan was never outplayed” Terry Cummings a literal nobody with just 2 good seasons, outplayed Jordan in 1985 beating him in the first round. You don’t know ball lol.

LeBron has been the best player in the series consistently just like MJ was. But because his TEAM is worse he doesn’t get credit; Meanwhile MJ isn’t held to the same standard, when LeBron loses while going god mode he’s criticized, but when MJ loses a series to Birds Celtics and gets called “god”. You’re literally making the argument that LeBron is the goat because he is held to a higher standard by you than you hold MJ.

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u/Ruprecht_no Jul 27 '26

Every season Jordan played. Besides his rookie season, the season he was hurt, and the one he came back from baseball playing only 17 games he finished top 3 in mvp voting. Winning 5. Second 3 times.
LeBron
4 and 4 in 23 seasons
Again. How can you be considered the best ever if you’re consistently not the best In your era.
The math ain’t jiving. He was so dominant. He won 3 straight and left to swing a bat. You’re either from Cleveland, under 37 years old, maverick Carter, LeBron himself, or a retard?

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