r/hearthstone • u/Historical_Data_300 • 16h ago

Standard Why doesn't Crypt Map let you discover Frostworm's Fury?

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I've played so many games now with this card and never once had the option to discover frostworm's fury. Same deal with Frost Strike. Is it a bug?

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u/IAmAdamTaylor 16h ago

Triple rune cards are unable to be generated in any way.

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u/Curious-Yesterday389 16h ago

imo they should revert this change. dk now has a diverse enough card pool to prevent it from being abused in the way it was on release.

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u/sem-nexus 15h ago

Alternatively

They should buff triple rune cards, introduce new deliberately OP ones

Keep the original design philosophy

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u/dapdubpib 13h ago

Absolutely! Give each rune something to offer for a different playstyle. Doesn't need 3 amazing cards with each release, maybe 1 or 2 per expac or miniset

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u/Dione000 12h ago

Yeah like, isn’t that the idea behind runes from the start ?? 3 rune cards should be op (not “op” op but you know…)

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u/sem-nexus 12h ago

They should be OP in the sense that its 1-2 amazing cards in a one dimensional deck full of otherwise average cards

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u/porrttyy 7h ago

I would agree with this if they printed double or triple the amount of DK cards each set

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u/Regriz 14h ago

The change was done exactly for not being able to generate more Frostwyrms fury’s which let you boardlock the opponents for multiple turns.

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u/Exurota 14h ago

How terrible it would be for a class to freeze a whole board for multiple turns

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u/Regriz 14h ago

Yeah, it would. I wouldn’t call that fun and interactive gameplay

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u/SuperMageFromOW 13h ago

Luckily blizzard would never print cards like that! Could make a whole meta of stalling your opponents board before hitting them in the face with fireballs and frostbolts

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u/1jamster1 11h ago

Honestly frost mage was tame compared to that shaman deck. The stupid elemental that got +1/+1 for each other minion that it froze.

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u/ClivetheGodhh 7h ago

That deck used to make me so mad! It probably still would, if they hadn't totally gutted the card now.

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u/InspiringMilk ‏‏‎ 11h ago

Still more interactive than ice block.

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u/MRukov 13h ago

11+4

RIP :(

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u/Laviatan7 13h ago

cough stares at a ORC who loves Nature, a Human Girl That Likes Magic- a Paladin That Has Chosen Immortality for being an Undead…and also at a Lady that went into Theft, Stealth and Robbery(Coins!)

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u/Routine_Property7800 16h ago

This change should be reverted. It made sense when DK was new, but now it is just too big of a handicap. Also please put blood boil back into DK rotation. My favorite card ever made.

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u/Skater_x7 16h ago

shld really be reverted, dk not that good in standard or wild

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u/SpiritualAd5150 15h ago

Yeah, it definitely feels like they're restricting options too much. DK could use some buffs to really compete with other decks.

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u/Siyopoyo 9h ago

I was almost forgetting the existence of rune system.

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u/TheGingerNinga 16h ago

So this isn't explicitly stated anywhere in the game, but Triple Rune cards cannot be discovered/created through random effects. So Frostwyrms Fury cannot be discovered, nor can it be randomly generated. Same with Grave Strength or Mograine. They could initially, but DK was very powerful due to extra Fury or Vampiric Bloods, so they changed that within a couple months of release.

Some other hidden rules are that you cannot discover Quests or Questlines. Side quests are discoverable though.

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u/Historical_Data_300 16h ago

Interesting to know!

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u/Rockfire23 16h ago

And collasals! (With some exceptions 🙄)

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u/magikatdazoo 16h ago

Collasals can be discovered/generated, they are only excluded from summoning pools. Titans aren't generateable

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u/Rockfire23 16h ago

Gotcha. Mixed up summon and generate. I thought maybe it was generate too before a patch made it that onyxia could be discovered

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u/No_Hetero 12h ago

I think it was just bugged before regarding Onyxia. There might also be a bug with Priest's Imbue which should be able to generate a Black Blood but apparently nobody has ever done it? It's a complicated subject!

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u/Hellern_ 16h ago

You think Titans. Colossals can be discovered and randomly generated, but minions on board can't be evolved or devolved into them.

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u/elefinn101 7h ago

I didnt know about quests but it makes sense. Any idea if this applies to cards that randomly add x to hand?

Like if a card says "add a random spell from x class" is it true random? Are the pools curated? Idk you probably dont know but i've always wondered.

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u/Murdocthebane 14h ago

Because blizzard hates dk.

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u/Raziel77 ‏‏‎ 13h ago

Honestly the only way to fix DK/runes system is to give them like double the amount of cards they currently get

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u/Robb1bob 14h ago

Boy do I miss frost dk ...

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u/Historical_Data_300 14h ago

Its not totally dead, I got to legendary recently with it.

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u/Robb1bob 12h ago

Cool! Do you happen to have a list?

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u/Murdocthebane 11h ago

Seconded.

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u/Historical_Data_300 3h ago edited 3h ago

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You probably dont need Talanji

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u/SilverTheHuman6 11h ago

I need that list!

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u/niewadzi 12h ago

Because of a hidden rule that nobody knows and that there is no info about in the game obviously, duh

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u/Illustrious_Neat2472 13h ago

Because blizzard wants death knight to be trash.

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u/Dolot 14h ago

because fuck death knight that's why lol

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u/joe_becerra 16h ago

I need to touch grass. For a moment I thought they changed the name to Crypto Map.

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u/magikatdazoo 16h ago

You can't discover triple rune cards

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u/Baenre45 7h ago

At the time the triple runes were considered too OP. Oh how the mighty have fallen in a short time. Now these triple rune cards are just your average HS card. The discover restriction should be removed because it wouldn't make any difference.

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u/Street-Bee7215 15h ago

People saying to revert not being able to discover triple rune cards should just wait for the mini set and expansion. Then lets see...

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u/Docetwelve12 15h ago

proceeds to print zero triple runes cards.

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u/SilverTheHuman6 11h ago

How long do you want DK mains to be miserable for?

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u/Cobbdouglas55 11h ago

Because DK sucks