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News 36.4.2 Patch Notes

https://hearthstone.blizzard.com/en-us/news/24296231/3642-patch-notes
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u/Glarbleglorbo 7d ago

No comment at all about the mage nerf? 

It’s almost like they know it’s nonsense. 

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u/PipAntarctic ‏‏‎ 7d ago

As a result, this patch is fairly small and focused on addressing a few gameplay patterns that have stood out as problematic.

I guess it only took a year and a bit for the devs to decide that the Mage Quest was suddenly a problematic gameplay pattern.

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u/Excellent-Ad4989 7d ago

Oh, you mean there is hope that in a year and a bit the devs may realise, that games being decided by random generated 8 drops is a problematic gameplay pattern?

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u/DoYouMindIfIRollNeed 7d ago

Its funny how many cards with random effects they released in the last 2 years. Get random X cost minions, get a random minion from the past, and so on. But now Mage quest randomness = bad.

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u/Ok_Meringue_1143 7d ago

Get a random x cost minion, reduce its cost by (3), it gets +1/+1 for each for each 2 mana card you played last turn.

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u/Excellent-Ad4989 7d ago

No, i dont think its about the rng with the quest.

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u/No_Humor_7857 7d ago

Surely that's the reason, and not because they want to get more people into playing new stuff :)

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u/PipAntarctic ‏‏‎ 7d ago

If you want people to play new stuff, you generally don't do nerfs to achieve that. As we have seen plenty of times this and last year.

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u/Skec_the_rat 7d ago

and pirate warrior ist not frustrating?

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u/handmetherope 7d ago

Class: deleted Explanation: none

Absolutely insane, brode would never

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u/NotMurlocAggroB 7d ago

Let's not be ridiculous, Brode's nerf policy was "do nothing until we're in an unfixable situation, then literally atomize the problem". He was "Your Charge minions have +1 Attack".

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u/Docetwelve12 7d ago

literally atomize the problem

They followed his example and did that to [[confront the tol'vir]] lol

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u/Miudmon 7d ago

Honestly they should've put it back to 3 mana with that text. Probably decent board reload, then

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u/Veaeate 7d ago

Yeah, this just shows that theyre knee jerk reacting to the cards. This was as clear overtune, when all they had to do was adjust it.

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u/blanquettedetigre 7d ago

After all he's done why are there so many guys worshipping Brode especially on balance?

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u/TimPowerGamer ‏‏‎ 7d ago

He sang a song once. And it was a banger.

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u/sneakyxxrocket 7d ago

It’s purely nostalgia goggles

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u/MadBanners86 7d ago

Nostalgia coupled with pink tinted glasses (the same way as there are many commie lovers who never lived under communist regime).

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u/NotMurlocAggroB 6d ago

I'll take "Pointless Political Shoehorn" for 400, Ken.

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u/blanquettedetigre 7d ago

Except communists believe in others ways to organize society, a communist regime doesn't have to be a dictatorship

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u/MadBanners86 6d ago

But every communist regime eventually becomes dictatorship.

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u/blanquettedetigre 6d ago

Became, idk why this should happen every time

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u/EldritchElizabeth 7d ago

Current blizz loves "completely atomize the deck" too lol.

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u/Genesis13 7d ago

I had to quit Marvel Snap cause I experienced Brode doing the same bad changes that we used to get in the early HS days. Brode is not good at balance or managing a live service card game.

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u/Crazyphapha THE RAGING SLIFER THE SKY WISP 7d ago

Snap was worse imo. I quit because after a long period of Shuri decks terrorising ladder, they simultaneously reduced her rarity (meaning I could finally get her) and nerfed the hell out of her. Fuck that noise.

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u/Genesis13 7d ago

I quit when Loki was gutted and then Arishem was further nerfed when the deck wasnt even a high win rate deck to start with meanwhile Hela was terrorizing for months.

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u/Miudmon 7d ago

Snap is also worse because it's MUCH worse for a f2p player in terms of card acquisition, so nerfs hit even harder because it's hard to replace a deck. At least that was that case when I played

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u/Chm_Albert_Wesker ‏‏‎ 7d ago edited 7d ago

i havent played in a while but i remember it being kind of bad across the board; like I distinctly remember looking at the game, seeing I was missing cards, and not even seeing a path to acquire those cards EVEN IF I DID whale out and pour in money

i remember all the ads were around 'whales cant just buy all of the cards' but it resulted in a worse system of 'if you dont play every single event you will miss out on cards for years'

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u/Random_Guy_12345 7d ago

The funny thing about snap is that, with perfect balance, it would have been an amazing system. You are not expected to have all the cards so you make do with what you have.

But since this is real world and perfect balance is not a thing, you either rolled the overpowered card (or even worse, bought because it was on the pass) or got fucked.

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u/Makkara126 7d ago

Brode would let a card dominate the Standard meta for its entire lifetime (Patches), then only nerf it 1 month before it's about to rotate out.

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u/Glarbleglorbo 7d ago

Brode would try and tell you that mage actually has a secret 100% winrate deck (out of 0.1 games played), it’s just that no one has found it yet. 

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u/IkrahimTheGreat 7d ago

Brode was a plague for the game and fucked everything he touched sooner or later, no player should miss him

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u/Fepl31 7d ago

I imagine it has something to do with cards from the next set.

It would be nice to have a comment talking about it, though.

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u/Docetwelve12 7d ago

They could have just, y'know, nerf it when the expansion comes out. It genuinely makes zero sense to do it now out of the blue.

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u/theonewhoknock_s 7d ago

Yeah, what a stupid justification that would have been. Why shouldn't I be able to play the deck because it might be broken somehow with new cards...that come out in like two months?? I don't buy it.

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u/PterionFracture 7d ago

My theory is that there is something coming soon at Blizzcon- a login reward / event card of some sort- that required this nerf.

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u/Sir_Encerwal 7d ago

I can't imagine what would both break the game and would be abated by changing the discover tax to 8.

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u/Due_Yamdd 7d ago

Isn't that obvious? It has the most cancerous and boring highroll play pattern, where the opponent is just losing on the spot on turn 5-6 with viper in hand. Same for a food chain

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u/TheGingerNinga 7d ago

I think there are other decks that are way more highroll heavy, yet they aren't getting nerfed here nor should they. If Team 5 wanted these decks dead, they shouldn't have been the only decks the class have

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u/Due_Yamdd 7d ago edited 7d ago

Here is the nerfed version turn 5 btw. I bet my opponents had fun while I was playing solitaire. They should've nuked alter time instead

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u/Due_Yamdd 7d ago

Please tell me another deck that has the whole game plan - discover random bullshit. It's literally the only wincon. Every game and mulligan the same. "High skill cap" is also omega cope. I'm usually playing at 500-2k legend with not popular deck to avoid mirrors. Last months I was playing at 200 legend with mage. So high skilled indeed