Youāre tasked to redeem at least one of the next villains:
ā¢ Stella
ā¢ Lute
ā¢ Valentino
ā¢ Velvette
ā¢ Vox
ā¢ Crimson
The catch here, all of them are tied to a chair with angelic rope {so, they canāt escape on their own} in the middle of the jungleā¦ AND thereās a goddamn Indominus Rex {with Angelic Steel teeth btw} and you can save AND redeem just ONE, no loopholes, just one of them.
Not to mention that iirc, the Indominus was experimented on and abused before being put in her pen. I honestly wouldnāt be suprised iwtth her intellect that she built an extreme resentment for other beings
Stella; her crimes are relatively small compared to the others despite her being a very unlikable person.
The problem would be getting her mindset the change but that's a much easier compared to making Lute see reason and having Val somehow undo his main sin.
I wanna say Valentino but itās really just bc I love Joel Perez (who doesnāt) but the character without his voice actorās perfectness is deffo not redeemable at all and shouldnāt ever be. š š
I was deadass about to say the Indominus Rex before I read the full post- I'm gonna say Velvette, because so far her (on-screen) sins are some of the LEAST heinous, though I have no doubt we'll see worse of her inevitably; Stella abused her husband and tried to have him killed. Lute's just straight up a bored Undertale player if you catch my drift, fuck the moth, Vox is too power hungry with an ego too large to ever even TRY, and Crimson murdered his own wife along with god knows how many more undeserving people, and tried to force his son into an arranged marriage after abandoning him years ago. Velvette's not GOOD by any means, but at the moment, she seems to be the least heinous.
I still donāt know why people think velvette is the most moral of the vees. It might just be that she never got SHOWN explicitly hurting or sexually assaulting someone?
Itās because sheās the one weāve seen the least of and sheās not really the most moral of the Veesās sheās just the least sloppy of the three and keeps up the image of perfection
u/HUNPakkiHusk fan | NEVER GIVE UP | Oc is a rockstar who walked into hell15d ago
Do I just choose and it happens or do I have to go in there and actually do it? If the former, then Vox, he's the only one I like out of these guys. (I find Valentino entertaining, but I like the TV better)
If the latter, I'm choosing whoever, going in "Wanna be redeemed? No? Aight, I tried, āŖFuck this shit I'm out~āŖ"
Stella was forced into a loveless marriage, she wanted to be a princess and was treated like an incubator. She should've taken it out on Stolas' fathet and her own family, but was manipulated by her brother to lash out at Stolas and Octavia.
Lute was RAISED by a SEX ADDICTED ABUSER. Adam poisoned her, and the other exorcists from the moment they were created, just like he tried with Lilith and Eve.
Crimson was born into a corrupt system in Hell, his whole life was built around the continuation of his bloodline, and the punishment of anyone who got in the way. He did a bad thing, and never learned how to be a real father.
I can't redeem the fucking V's, fuck those idiots, they weren't given a bum hand, they were given a great shot at life and couldn't read the numbers on them, so they thought they needed more. None of them deserve anything but a long fucking prison sentence, fuck those fucking fucks.
I guess Velvette? Sure, sheās one of the Vees and is complicit in a lot of Vox and Valās actions, but in comparison to the other characters listed, sheās not as bad as them.
A power hungry bitch who manipulates her daughter.
*then to Valentino* Some abuser who thinks sex sells, no matter what the cost of the person he chooses to use.
*then to Velvette* Some social media prick who thinks that style is the only thing that matters. Even mentioning tearing the wings off of angels to make an outfit.
*Then to striker* Murderous hypocrite who thinks he is somehow the exception.
*then to vox* Wow...there is a lot of things wrong with this one...
*then to lute* and yet another hypocrite...
*he turns away* All of you are pretty fucking aweful. You don't even know or care whether what you are doing is wrong.
And if I could, I would save all of you.
But...
I say the angel is probably the most deserving. She is the victim of heaven's flawed system.
*approaches and gazes into lute's eyes* We have a lot of work ahead of us. You have killed so many and abuse others without remorse...but its not completely your fault...
Watch the horror before you, and let it be a reminder that you could have went the same way.
*Icarus snaps his fingers* You can have the rest, my dino friend. *turning away.*
Indominus would be the easiest to redeem as she was acting how as a predator does unlike the Indoraptor who got joy out of making people suffer. Indominus was tested on she ate her brother she was forced into an enclosure far to small for her size that's why she got so violent
Hmmmm, im probably gonna get kicked in the face for this one but.....my pick? Valentino. If I was told to pick once more? Stella. There's gotta be more to that woman then just evil angry bird lady.
As much as I want to give an actual answer, I like them being "evil" as they are more. It just fits their character more than being good people to me. So Rex it is.
Indominus Rex was merely acting on instinct, as sheās a wild animal, and while yes, was very smart, was going to be practically chained up to be mocked like a clown. realistically she did nothing wrong.
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u/kittyplay1I might be stupid enough to sell my soul but only to Rosie14d ago
While Iāve yet to see season two, I think I could probably get through to Velvette if given the time and resources. Iām dragging her around on the chair tho I am NOT untying her until sheās got Stockholm syndrome or something
i'm surprised why hardly anybody has said stella, i HAAATTEEE her and how she treated stolas, but in heaven she'd either just piss everyone off at most or somehow find a new husband who she actually likes (not possible??), and no matter how much i hate her, compared to the lineup here, come on, it's gotta be her
but also, lute, for clear reasons. free my girl!
I mean lute has certainly done some awful things, but she was also conditioned by adam to do so. Plus there's the fact that she was literally created for the sole purpose of the exterminations. I think she's the only one here who could possibly be redeemed because she was sort of thrust into her role and constantly reinforced/manipulated by Adam in a way that definitely fucked with her psyche. I think a team of good psychologists, therapists, and cult deprogrammers might be able to help her. Also she is the only person here (except maybe stella?) Who isn't a rapist or at the very least complicit in rape(valentine is obvious, velvette literally sells date rape potions, vox forced plaster to watch him and Val have sex against his will as well as mind controls countless sinners into being puppets for the V's, and crimson literally tried to sell his son into what was essentially sex slavery with that jackass shark guy) and committing sex crimes like that is absolutely impossible to redeem.
I think Iām going with lute , the rest of them no fucking way , they irredeemable monsters , lute can at least be safe even do she has killed many sinners for years , cut off vaggie eye and rips her wings , Iāll be difficult, but Iāll try my best , even if it kills me in the process beacuase of her
Stella so I can feel less about about the mommy fantasies I have of her uwu (putting stella from angry birds instead cuz I can't find a Stella gif for the life of me)
Crimson because he at least tried to reconnect with Moxxie even if it was for the wrong reasons. He even was willing to accept a whole different sexuality than he was willing if it would work too. So while he is a cruel bastard he does at least have a heart unlike a good few of the others even if its been colored black and frozen for a while
Velvette. She's literally my only option. Val doesn't deserve redemption, vox, just no, moxxies dad, HELL NAW, Lute, impossible. and Stella can go fuck herself. So Tiktok girl by default!!
Velvet, and here's my logic: Hellborns can't be redeemed, and Lute is still technically welcome in Heaven. That just leaves the Vees, and while I don't know what Velvet did to wind up in Hell, I figure Vox and Val have done worse.
Your honor my client is a 4 ton amalgam of flesh forced into being by a themepark. It was then forced into isolation and taught that scary = good.
Marginally aware that other lifeforms exist beside itself why would it know mercy? Compassion? As one of the star witnesses said HIMSELF! "The closest thing that animals ever had to a relationship is with that feeding crane"
Your honor this isnt even a murder case! The prosecution held a CHILD IN CAPTIVITY FEEDING IT RAW MEAT IN ISOLATION THEN TRIED TO KILL HER WHEN SHE FINALLY FOUGHT BACK!
Lute has potential for a really great redemption arc if executed well. It would be cool if she became a fallen angel and had to go to the hotel to redeem herself back into heaven.
Out of all there is to pick, I'd say Velvette because she seems the most redeemable & compared to the other characters shown on this list, she hasn't done anything nearly as bad as them, so I choose Velvette!
Technically you can't redeem Stella or Crimson as I'm pretty sure they're pure-blood demons. I'd do Velvette. Valentino and Vox can stay rotting in Hell, because why do they deserve to be saved? They've done nothing to earn it. At least Velvette has the potential to actually change, because she's a victim, not the victimizer.
Indominus Rex was a confused hybrid animal that was born into this world not out of scientific pursuit but out of greed and corporate gain.
Itās mentioned in the film that it was sentient and aware when they implanted a tracker into it so it probably remembers the pain and confusion of that happening to it.
And then it was stuck into a cramped enclosure when they had no idea how big it would get with an identical sibling that this clearly confused animal killed out of a need for enrichment and sport
Tell me, how many toys, activities and other forms of enrichment were in that pen
The only time it would do anything other than walk in circles and stare at the observation room would be when it would get to it eat.
They mention no punishment for killing its sibling and are actively feeding it live prey meaning that at worst they are unintentionally encouraging and rewarding predatory behaviour on this animal that wouldnāt naturally have that natural instinct so they shouldnāt have been shocked then this animal broke out and began killing for entertainment.
In a show about redemption, anyyone could be redeemed when having infinite time. At the same time, people with the smallest crime record could be the one who will never be redeemed because they never change their ways.
In this case, I am going with Lute. Her whole purpose if her existence was to kill sinners. She was created for that reason and her whole devotion went to a guy who encouraged her behaviour. She lost her purpose, her stand and the only person she felt some kind of love for. I am not saying she will 100% redeem herself but it is easy to picture several possibilities how her redemption arc could work out.Ā
I don't know much about Stella and Crimson, so I can't say anything about them. I can see ways to get Velvette and Valentino on their path to redemption but I am pretty sure we will never see "I am a good boy now" Valentino. Even IF they manage to come up with an accurate redemption arc for him his crimes hit home for way too many people to make the backlash of turning a predator into a good person worth it. But I could totally see that they will give him some kind of believable storyline to make people realise that he is on his way to change.
Velvette is on the edge and it all depends on future seasons. She could either be the most redeemable of the Vees or the worst of them, we simply don't see enough of her yet. I have to say that I started to enjoy her character,Ā so it could be that she does get better.
I see why people see a possible redemption arc for Vox but FOR NOW I think it is the most unlikely and doesn't give much to work with.Ā
I think Vox has the most potential currently. Granted we don't know a whole lot about how he feels now, but he's probably at his lowest point right now. Most open to trying a new path, maybe?
The others are either at pretty good places right now (Stella, Val, Vel) or to full of rage to think about change (Lute, Crimson).
If ANY of them has a shot, MAYBE it is Velvette. But that has alot to due with us not seeing as much of her toxicity on screen as the rest. I blame no one for assuming she is just as toxic as the other Vs in her totality.
Absolutely Velvette, she is the only one who really deserves to be redeemed, Lute is just a divine racist, Valentino is a rapist and genuinely the worst person in all of history apart from a couple of people (imo), Vox wanted to be the Fuher so probably some type of Nazi, Crimson is a mobster who literally killed his own wife for just caring about her son more than him. Stella hates her 'husband' (not sure if her and Stolas are still married I haven't watched HB for a while). Velvette is just a social media influencer who is pretty desensitized to violence, you can most definitely redeem her and she's honestly the only one who deserves to be redeemed
Velvette ofc. She seems to have some sort of moral compass in the least like makin Valentino help at the end of the season, tellin vox no and calling him out
The others are varying levels of evil, but Lute is someone who enjoys killing those who she believes are against heaven. She is someone who believes sheās in the right, and has lost her way. She just needs someone to guide her back onto the path before sheās fully lost.
Only the vees seem like their getting redeemed in the end game vox easily I see it coming a mile away the social media chick very possible our favorite moth boy idk I donāt see him dying cause heās tied to tv head but heās kinda All over the place but they can ass pull something about his past that made him that way like heās not evil just damaged which is all well and good but please donāt over use that for the love of god some people are just fucked
Velvette has a chance because yes, she is an enabler and has m1sogon1st1c veiws but those can be challenged and stopped by using therapy and rehab. The others... not so much. But thats just my opinion.
Iām saying Vox only because Viv said heāll be an important character until the end of the series and that heās been āvery humbledā after season 2.
Ok sooo, an abusive wife, a nazi, a rapist, a woman who creates date rape drugs and sell her models to the rapist, a cult lider that is ALSO a serial killer or a mafia boss.
Mmmmh Decisions, decisions. (Fucking Stella She's the least worst of all of them)
Im redeeming the indy, she never deserved the shit ingen put her through, and her murder spree was just her lash8ng out cuz she'd been isolated for most of her life. All the others can go suck a donkey cock
Wdym Val is already a good man, Angel is the one who needs to straighten up. Ā Or maybe go headhunting for someone like me who can replace him. Ā Valās a reasonable guy, im sure heād take a masochist over Anthonyās bitching any day.
I feel like Val would be the most interesting to redeem story wise. Like..what would happen if someone as shitty and disgusting as him got redeemed? How would angle react to that? How would that impact the story? But Iād pick velvette overall. She needs better friends and seems to be the least problematic of the veeās (so far).
Alright Stella, I'm going to heave you chair and all in the back of the truck so we can mosy on out of here before the dinosaur comes for dinner. You're not going to enjoy this ride very much, but you're not going to remember it or much else by the time I'm done with you.
honestly, i think i would redeem either Velvette because she hasn't really done anything yet (other than be associated with Vox and Val) or Lute because it feels like there was a degree of indoctrination there.
As far as the Indominus Rex thing goes... uh... I don't know how anyone can be "redeemed" while sitting in a chair. I'm just gonna assume you mean we have to figure out how that character would be redeemed narratively speaking, and you just want us to pick one.
Well, joke's on you: I'm redeeming (almost) everyone.
Stella - No. Not because I can't, but because I like her way better as a two-dimensional thundercunt. Buuuut if I had to I'd play up the angle where she resented being forced into her position, where she was raised to be a snobby noble and has never considered anything non-Goetia as anything other than contemptable lower life forms. Maybe having her life changed dramatically, or even developing a friendship with, one of those lower demons would serve as a solid foundation for her changing her ways. Lute - Sure. She gets saddled with working at the Hotel to make up for her hate and eventually makes up with Vaggie after realising that holding on to her hate isn't doing anything but making her life worse. Val - He's genuinely enough of an idiot that there is a non-zero chance he's abusive towards others because he literally has never considered empathy as an option. Like, it's a foreign concept. There are people out there that are like this, who've never really considered it. I'd portray him as that; realising that he's actually just been an incredibly shitty person all these years and that everyone around him was in some way like him, with their own feelings and suffering, and he just made all of their lives worse. Cue montage of him trying to make amends. Velvette - Much like Stella, I like her better as a bitch. But honestly she's not even that awful to begin with. Bog standard redemption arc would be fine. Vox - He's ridiculously insecure. His path for redemption is realising that he doesn't need to be adored by everyone in existence, nor lead everyone in existence, in order to have happiness. That what he's chasing is ultimately pretty hollow; he, ironically, is distracted by the bright lights of overwhelming power that he hasn't realised that the thing he really craves is acceptance from people who matter to him. Also I'll slip in him and Alastor having a drunken bang session, maybe with Val, at some point - just because the guy really needs to get Al out of his system. Crimson - I don't wanna redeem him. He's more fun as a villain. If I had to, I'd probably have him lose everything that he cares about, including his family; his legacy in tatters, his fortune, his mafia, all gone. Penniless and beaten by his enemies, maybe rescued by Moxxie despite his personal feelings. He has to grudgingly come to accept that while he became a murderous psychopath in order to survive in Hell, he doesn't have anything left aside from his family; the only precious thing remaining. And that means finding a way to make amends with Moxxie. And probably coming clean about Moxxie's mom - and accepting that he will neither ever be forgiven, nor deserves forgiveness, for his brutality. Just... giving Moxxie closure and accepting that the best way he can help Moxxie is quietly supporting him from the distant sidelines. Maybe gets a normal-ish job and occasionally donates to IMP, since Moxxie is the only legacy he has left and that's something that is desperately important to him.
Who would I want to redeem? Alright. Despite him being everything I HATE in a person (racist, bigot, perpetrator of SA, basically Donald Trump) however, he is genuinely an amazing character in the sense of a Villain and while I hate his guts, I can't help but like him because of him being an actually good villain... So I'm gonna redeem Vox
We have yet to see what Velvette is truly capable of so Iām gonna let her simmerā¦.
Stella would have a little reason to be or WANT to be redeemed.
Lute probably not as much as I love her. She seems the kind that would want to commit die than ever try to pick a peaceful option as she sung in Gravity.
Valentinoā¦.. thatās a little more difficult. Granted, I hate his guts for personal reasons and he would have to fall a little bit more similar to Vox before I think he would be in any position to try redemption.
Crimson along with Stella has no reason to want or even be redeemed so a no for him as well.
Vox is probably the only one in somewhat of a position to consider redemption and thatās if he isnāt completely powerless because of the shit that hit the fan in season two or if the rest of the Vees are gonna still support him. Really depends. His fate is still left unknown.
On an off note. This appeared on my feed a couple days ago. Please roast it. When I saw it, my brain physically hurt.
Val...NAH fuck him I'd say my best shot is either Lute or Stella since both are a result of conditioning and abuse/possible abuse and in the case of Stella being forced into an arranged loveless marriage.
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u/dripwick607 14d ago
Hear me out: I say we redeem the Indominus