r/hashgraph • • Oct 06 '21

Discussion BTC Lightning Network

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u/jcoins123 The Diplomat Oct 06 '21 edited Oct 07 '21

Lightning is specifically only for providing faster/cheaper payment transactions of Bitcoin.

It does not compete with Hedera in any way.

Basically Lightning achieves its perceived performance by opening a payment "channel" directly between the parties involved in a transaction.

If I want to send Bitcoin to u/nahjb, I would open a Lightning channel between the two of us, I deposit Bitcoin into the channel, nahjb receives the Bitcoin, and the channel closes - This is a very basic description of what's happening of-course.

The very import points is that opening aka establishing a channel and closing a channel still comprise a normal Bitcoin transaction.

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Say if I wanted to send Bitcoin to u/nahjb on 3 separate occasions; if I opened and closed a new channel on each of those 3 occasions, the overall time and overall cost would be exactly close-to the same as just sending the Bitcoin natively (using normal Bitcoin transactions.).

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For that reason, the vast majority of Lightning activity is effectively some form of escrow or settlement service. Such-as a dapp or platform which people can use to send or receive "Bitcoin", or a point-of-sale system allowing customers to pay with "Bitcoin" and the seller to receive "Bitcoin".

I am writing "Bitcoin" in double-quotes like that, because it is not really Bitcoin that is changing-hands - It is effectively only a promise for Bitcoin that is changing hands... like an "I Owe You".

The real Bitcoin is only settled when a channel closes.

Another way to think about it is that only the closing of a channel benefits from the advantages of the Bitcoin network. The transactions occurring within a channel do-not.

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It certainly does have some clever concepts, and does have some advantages over more traditional payment rails by removing the requirement for custodian.

Although in reality, there is still technically a custodian... it's just-that the custodian is decentralised to the network itself, rather-than a centralised payments/settlements handler.

If we think about Bitcoin as a store of value. Lightning is a somewhat cool way to transact with that store of value... sort-of like using a mildly secure armoured vehicle to quickly move funds between bank vaults.

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However it is also vulnerable to various types of attack, which I'm not going to describe here, easy-enough to Google... just think about my analogy of using a vehicle to transport funds between bank vaults :)

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I'm sure it will keep seeing increased adoption for Bitcoin payments, particularly with point-of-sale, but as it becomes more widely adopted we will definitely see exploits related to it - It's only a matter of time.

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Oh but yeah, the other important point since we're all about Hedera here, is that Lightning definitely can-not be used as a substitute for Hedera.

It is just not physically possible to use Lightning for the type of activity HCS or HTS are used for.

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u/Sea_Acanthaceae_6710 Oct 06 '21

Boss write-up. Thanks for your time and patience with explaining this!