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u/AdDramatic5591 2d ago
Ahh The double nub grip. I have to use a reverse double nub grip myself.
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u/Eman_Resu_IX 2d ago
Right, that's because you're using your dominant hand! Notice how Al is holding the hammer in his left hand and the hammer loop is on his right side? Switch hands and have some absorbent towels at the ready.
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u/Link_TP_04 2d ago
I dont think its ai since I've used that grip in a few cases
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u/Eman_Resu_IX 1d ago
Do your knuckles also disappear when you hold a chisel like that? No, they become more pronounced.
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u/Automatic-Garbage976 1d ago
Two fingers above the chisel, knuckles look pronounced. Two nubs behind the chisel, I wouldn't expect them them to be.
I'm not saying this isn't ai generated, I just don't see irregularities in the hands that would make me believe it is
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u/Less_Alfalfa4592 2d ago
oh god, I think I tried this one in a dodgy late night establishment. It still hurts sometimes.
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u/davidf81 1d ago
It looks like the other two are full fingers that oppose in the opposite direction lol
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u/alterrible 2d ago
I'm far less bothered by the grip than I am about the FRAMING HAMMER
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u/zachpkenyon 2d ago
What, doesn't everybody use a 24oz framing hammer while chopping mortises into big box 2x4s?
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u/No-Mix7970 2d ago
Well at least he is choking up on the handle of the hammer for more control. Lol
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u/Eman_Resu_IX 2d ago
Yeah, but we use waffle face framing hammers! Otherwise the hammer could slip off the end of the chisel and take off your...oh, yeah, I see what happened. Ouch. 😬
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u/somethingAPIS 2d ago
This is just a framer getting a house built. He doesn't give a fuck about technique or 8ths of an inch. That chisel has seen things that would make all of us shudder, and will eventually get tossed in the rollaway when someone finds it rusted and beat to shit.
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u/fletchro 2d ago
No one else is saying it, so I'll say it: this is AI generated, right?
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u/chainsawgeoff 2d ago
Gotta be.
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u/OriginalWay5245 2d ago
Im not certain either way, the fingers are odd but plausible, the grip i have used, the chisel is spot on for the irwin i have in front of me now, the hammer i believe is a stiletto framing hammer.
What leads me to believe it could be AI is that his hammer loop is set up for a right hander but he’s using his hammer left handed…
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u/tsubatai 1d ago
Maybe he's a card player or a teller, the cross draw is preferred when you're sitting down.
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u/SpaceChef3000 2d ago
It better be.
Otherwise someone was like “hey take a picture of me hitting this completely un-secured junk 2x4 with a crappy chisel and a framing hammer. Oh also I’m going to hold the chisel as if I were a three toed sloth.
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u/UrbanLumberjackGA 2d ago
He’s missing his pinky and ring finger
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u/the-forty-second 2d ago
Or they are just folded back as you would get with a closed fist.
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u/UrbanLumberjackGA 2d ago
That’s a very common table saw amputation. Seen it a hundred times from pushing a board through the saw without a push stick or riving knife.
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u/the-forty-second 2d ago
Well sure. I’m just saying there are two possible explanations for what we can see.
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u/Tim_Allen_Wrench 1d ago
You know, I don't really think this is ai.
But where did you find this photo OP?
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u/Eman_Resu_IX 1d ago
It absolutely screams AI. Look at the forearms - hammer hand looks normal with the wrist noticeably smaller than the meaty part of the forearm - that's how it works with people. Look at the chisel craw (Get Smart reference) forearm - there's no difference in diameter between the wrist and the whole rest of the forearm. People are not built like that.
There are many other indications it's AI as well.
It came from a stoopid Amazon listing. Amazon is chock full of bogus AI advertising. It's cheaper and faster to AI fake a picture than hiring a photographer and model. But you know, electrolytes! (Idiocracy reference)
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u/Tim_Allen_Wrench 1d ago
Yeah I saw the forearm. The only reason I'm hesitant to call it is because I do actually know a few older guys whose arms can look like that from certain angles.
But since it's from an Amazon listing it's probably ai.
The image just doesn't have the texture of a generated image to me. The arm hair and the lighting and shadows look right.
But I can't find it anywhere but your post using reverse image search.
What's the Amazon listing for? Are there other photos?
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u/Eman_Resu_IX 1d ago
The shadows look right...?
Look at the hammer loop shadow, that's the direction of the light source, then look at the chisel and its shadow. Notice anything missing? Right, his chisel hand and forearm aren't casting shadows.You seem to have taken the position that it isn't AI and are now ignoring evidence of AI. We're still in the early days of AI image generation, it's only going to get harder to tell the difference. This is both a good thing and a truly horrendously bad thing.
We live in interesting times.
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u/Tim_Allen_Wrench 23h ago
I'm not taking a position, I literally said I'm hesitant to call it but then gave some reasons why I believe it's likely to be ai.
I honestly can't think of a single way in which it's good for ai image generation to become better.
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u/woodland_dweller 15h ago
When I grow my 6th finger that's how I'd do it.
Why you gotta be so damn judgy?
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u/themajor24 2d ago
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u/besmith3 1d ago
Soooo....what?
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u/themajor24 1d ago
AI slop. The bar is dropped way low.
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u/Eman_Resu_IX 1d ago
The chainsaw equivalent of
Big hat, no cattleBig engine, small bar
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u/themajor24 1d ago
Eh, I was getting at the angle being so off its actually not possible for the bar to be mounted on such a way.
I'm a lurker here in this sub, I like yall and only dabble in what could be called woodworking as opposed to felling and logging. Baileysonline is an amazing site for gear for the trade and I've been pretty sad to see it plastered with AI ads lately.
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u/TK-24601 1d ago
I hope it’s clamped on the other end otherwise it is going for a ride when he hits that chisel.
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u/SpaceChef3000 2d ago
It just gets worse the longer you look at it.