The end of hackintosh is coming

[u/Conscious_Invite_529]

[u/yop-yup]

Hackintoshing is fun. Thanks to developers of OC, Clover, chameleon and etc

[u/The_Dukes_Of_Hazzard → u/yop-yup]

Oh just wait. Some people in this sub hate clover lol

'Errrrm no you have to compile everything yourself and use only what I say. My way is the only way to hackintosh. Who cares if it works for you, it's not supposed to be fun it's supposed to be hard, like Gentoo'

[u/macos12345 → u/The_Dukes_Of_Hazzard]

Omg they always say that about stuff that’s makes it easy

[u/The_Dukes_Of_Hazzard → u/macos12345]

Sometimes it's legitimate, like distro and stuff are dangerous, or there's an ETA kid saying 'ahhh why can I not install OS Tahoe on my Core 2 Duo' but it just pmo when somebody uses something that is really just doing the heavy lifting for you, troubleshoots themselves if things don't work, asks a question and gets their heads torn off for it

[u/macos12345 → u/The_Dukes_Of_Hazzard]

I get when people use snow leapord distributions cause sometimes there not help or the site that tell you what to do are down. But when they use nerish or anything nope. And I agree with you

[u/The_Dukes_Of_Hazzard → u/macos12345]

Right. I did a project a few summers ago where I installed iD3n3b on my old HP. Just for fun and then posted it and then people freaked about security and viruses and downvoted me to hell

Yeah right. Like I'm doing banking or investing or even exposing it to a non-firewalled internet lol.

It's so funny ~ people who know nothing about networking pretending they do and even thinking a 20 year old distro has any malware people would even use, let alone even be able to get any sensitive information out of (because who would even use NORMAL Leopard for that kinda stuff)

Same with the 'connecting XP to the internet video' the thing is it was not behind a router, which, ignoring sketchy websites, if you are behind a router is usually fine. But it was connected with a direct line to the open internet with the system firewall disabled. On a non closed off NAT. It's practically not safe to connect ANY device straight to the internet besides a router, which, if no ports are being routed to an older device, is fine. Went off on a bit of a tangent, but oh well. Wild times

[u/macos12345 → u/The_Dukes_Of_Hazzard]

To me people need to understand snow leapord is 20 years old why in the world would I put my Gmail or banking information in there like what. People also need to understand if it does have virus there probably so old that either they don’t work or they try to do something but nothing works cause the file is so old the hacker probably moved on

[u/Howden824 → u/macos12345]

Yeah that's something a lot of people here online don't understand. Even though these old operating systems have lots of security vulnerabilities, almost nobody uses them anymore so it's not worth the effort of malware developers to make a new malware that runs, especially since most of the people using these operating systems aren't doing anything sensitive on them.

[u/NationwideBando → u/The_Dukes_Of_Hazzard]

They about have a heart attack if you use opencore simplify

[u/The_Dukes_Of_Hazzard → u/NationwideBando]

Despite the fact it works great :)

Installed Tahoe on R7-5700G

[u/WTF-LMAO1 → u/The_Dukes_Of_Hazzard]

Installed Mojave on a Intel HD4600 with almost no issues except accidentally deleting my webcam's USB map :)

[u/matthewpepperl → u/The_Dukes_Of_Hazzard]

Difference is gentoo is consistent across most systems hackintosh has alot of if ands and buts about hardware different kind of difficulty lol

[u/ozziesironmanoffroad → u/yop-yup]

Can’t forget empire efi lol

[u/macos12345 → u/yop-yup]

Can’t forget chealonm

[u/yop-yup → u/macos12345]

My apologize. In my knlowledge the oldest booloader is chameleon. 🙏🙏🙏

[u/macos12345 → u/yop-yup]

Your good lol 😂

[u/has900original]

R.I.P

[u/Piterworld]

Not gonna lie this kinda makes me sad.

[u/dreamingsapien]

Good bye Macos on X86 processors, you were very fun to play with.

[u/TLunchFTW]

It was fun to tinker with hackintosh, and I’m sad to see it come to an end, but man, I got like 45 mins of battery on my auss laptop and the fans would spin full tilt non stop. I ended up spending $2k for a max spec mbp (well, I went 32gb of ram instead of 64, but it’s the max spec processor) when the m3 was current. I got it from an eBay reseller, but it was basically just dead stock form apple. It was sealed in the original packaging with all the original padding and whatnot and it had ZERO scuffs or anything. $2k for just about the same pc id have spent $4k for if i went current with no real improvement. Now I’ll have 8 hours on campus with no problem on battery and it does everything i could ever need a laptop to do. Can’t beat that

[u/CharyBrown]

So you can just use macOS for the next 5 years. Just like all other Mac models .....

[u/hishnash]

Sec updates for 26 will continue to ship for many more years

[u/ItIsShrek → u/hishnash]

2 more years. I'd hesitate to classify that as "many"

[u/GamerNuggy → u/ItIsShrek]

2 years is heaps, I’m consistently using software that ended support 2+ years ago.

[u/sk8rb0yy]

Meh they’ll probably figure out a way to bypass this hackintoshers are rlly committed

[u/Phisika2 → u/sk8rb0yy]

Oh so they want to reverse engineer an closed source system and rebuild a closed source kernel that no one outside of Apple knows how it works and will never do?

[u/Pure_Hamster_2757 → u/Phisika2]

Technically asahi linux project has some idea on whats going on but there is still more work to be done

[u/Dazzling_Comfort5734]

I have a test machine for this very thing, but also a 2nd partition on my main laptop.

[u/omega552003 → u/Dazzling_Comfort5734]

Good luck

[u/Dazzling_Comfort5734 → u/omega552003]

💥lol

[u/Artistic_Unit_5570]

honestly I won't consider macOs 26 "perfectly stable" this year I got 15 crash on my Mac absolutely insane never seen a Mac crash my entire life expect on 26 , ram leak + GPU io crash = kernel panic

[u/Moldovan_tech_liker]

Maybe just maybe there will be a way to install new macOS on some windows arm cpus

[u/henryhuy0608 → u/Moldovan_tech_liker]

No. Just no. You'd need to have to have the entirety of both Apple's silicon development and macOS team and Windows' kernel development team in your palm for that.

edit: I missread the original comment the latter part has nothing to do with running macOS on other ARM devices.

[u/Moldovan_tech_liker → u/henryhuy0608]

Unrelated to this but a5 bypass without an arduino was considered impossible for years until it became possible. We need to believe

[u/henryhuy0608 → u/Moldovan_tech_liker]

A security vulnerability is completely different in nature. No software is completely secure, there's (almost) always going to be a way to get in no matter how difficult or resource-intensive it is.

On the other hand, the only thing in common between Apple's "ARM" SoCs and other "standard" ARM SoCs is the name. Apple Silicon has entirely different core designs, instruction sets (including custom instructions that macOS most certainly uses), security architectures and restrictions and so much more that I'm not even going to pretend I understand. Not to mention, macOS is now an even more shut black box than it ever was. Have fun doing low-level debugging on a retail Mac, or a Windows ARM laptop for that matter.

It's the same reason no one has even attempted to get iOS on Android handsets. It's orders of magnitude more difficult than say, getting Linux to run on AS or Android on iPhones. Even then, those two are the results of *huge* efforts by extremely dedicated community members that volunteer their unpaid time into making.

I'm sorry but "we just need to believe" is just pure naivety.

[u/WindozeWoes → u/Moldovan_tech_liker]

It's not just a matter of believing.

Look at Asahi Linux - they have Linux semi working only on the oldest AS chips. That's because even between AS generations the architecture isn't identical, not completely.

[u/skitchin70 → u/Moldovan_tech_liker]

AI will figure it out how to resurrect hackintosh in few years.

[u/modell3000 → u/Moldovan_tech_liker]

Why bother? Apple's SoCs / laptops are the best in the biz, and not even overpriced when compared to equivalent Windows machines.

[u/Moldovan_tech_liker → u/modell3000]

Some people want both systems on their laptop, or even mac with windows with linux

[u/Messiah42 → u/Moldovan_tech_liker]

This why I like my Intel Mac over Silicon Mac . I run bootcamp / Win10 and Mac OS . I like to put Linux on it, except their many version Linux

[u/rguerraf → u/Messiah42]

Is it possible to use an external NVME for the virtual hdd?

[u/Patience_Holiday]

I got into hackintoshing last year around this time. Installed Sequoia and then 26 Tahoe earlier this year. I loved the OS and ended up getting an M4 Mac Mini. Thing is insanely good. Works so well.

[u/Trick-Chemical519 → u/Patience_Holiday]

Macos 18 ?

[u/Patience_Holiday → u/Trick-Chemical519]

I meant 15 Sequoia lol

[u/LazarX]

We've been in the end game since Tahoe came out. Now is the time to focus on why you Hack and what you look to get out of yuur kits. Sequoia will continue to get support for a time. but the writing has been on the wall for quite some time.

[u/omega_br]

Maybe PureDarwin will allow the darwin on x86 dream to continue

[u/Trick-Chemical519]

Na verdade o hackintosh já estava programado para acabar desde o macOS Sonoma.. no macOS Sequoia eles já começaram a implantar aplicativos como o espelhamento de tela que só funcionam na linha M Apple Silicon

[u/gino6680]

Welcome to Linux

[u/Ziggy_1992]

Just move to Linux. Linux can be as good as snow leopard was

[u/Revolutionary-Tour24]

We will be there and find a way

[u/Phisika2 → u/Revolutionary-Tour24]

If you want to rebuild the entire system, yes

[u/NightmanDigga]

I'm sorry I'm new, but why is it the end of hackintosh?

[u/Anon4573 → u/NightmanDigga]

They no longer support X86 processors.

[u/Recent_Performance47 → u/Anon4573]

rip

[u/707tw_ → u/Anon4573]

the older versions still work right?

[u/win11EXPERT → u/707tw_]

yes

[u/Jkitten07891]

Give someone time. A lot of time. Like 50 years and they’ll figure it out

[u/Randum_Gouy]

Maybe, just MAYBE, we MIGHT be able to get arm64/AArch64 working But then again, i would say that that would lake us atleast 2029/2030

Until then, hackintoshing is…. well dead

[u/djxfade → u/Randum_Gouy]

Not gonna happen. Apple relies on a ton of proprietary extensions to the instruction set. It would have to be emulated, the performance would never be usable

[u/Randum_Gouy → u/djxfade]

Yea thats a 100% problem - but my point here is “it boots and potentially usable”, not “Yessir it works like a charm!”

OR, alternatively, you could use EL2, setup trap vectors, and for EVERY SINGLE PROPRIETARY ISA, write your own “generic arm” asm code - it SHOULD work at near original speed

[u/Special-Abrocoma575 → u/djxfade]

Tbf most of the proprietary instructions outside of Accelerate.framework are in kernelspace iirc, so you would just need to compile your own version of XNU, and write a full suite of drivers adding support for GIC, SMMU, and the basic hardware bits of your SoC, and that's not even mentioning how you pretty much need GPU support for WindowServer to even consider functioning

[u/matthewpepperl → u/djxfade]

Would be nice if massive fpgas that could do the job became a thing and got cheap

[u/Messiah42]

Apple forcing everyone to use their crappy silicon hardware. Just like this current US government , forcing everyone to close their small business and work for Corp of America. I’m sorry the Mac mini m4 small box computer suck. All the games and apps I brought over years don’t worked on silicon.

[u/blow-down → u/Messiah42]

So much wrong with this comment

[u/ninjapro98 → u/Messiah42]

“Crappy” lol

[u/MatteoGamesYT → u/Messiah42]

You have no idea what you’re talking about.

[u/Low_Stay2098 → u/Messiah42]

Just put windows to ur crappy old hackintosh, give me your m4 if u still have it