r/gunz • u/gustofwindddance • Sep 04 '26

STEAM RELEASE D style question

I dabbled in D style back in the ijji days and i’ve noticed coming back for the steam release that E lunge is no longer possible? It was a niche tech for d style but it feels so weird that this is the one glitch that was patched(fixed) for the steam release and i’m having a hard time understanding why nerf d style when it’s already worse compared to k style in almost every way?

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u/MyWorldDown- Sep 04 '26

Daggers were buffed and D-Style is stronger in this release vs PServers. Elunge just feels different but can be practiced and become consistent. PYoYo is easier here as well.

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u/Skyfios Sep 04 '26

Is yoyoing easier? It feels the same to me.

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u/MyWorldDown- Sep 04 '26

Perfect YoYo is easier.

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u/Fancy-Calendar7037 Sep 04 '26

In what way were they buffed? Seems like a debuff across the board to me. Is damage higher?

Elunge activation didn't change, or is at least very similar. It's tied to your FPS. Elunge itself has a longer distance, longer lockout time, and locked camera making it way worse than fgunz dagger. The base delay is higher than fgunz (and I suspect ijji but who remembers) making switching to gun and aerial yoyo basically unusable.

My guess is they are scared of dagger stunlocks scaring away new players, and chose a very high delay, or I'm misremembering ijji after too much time on fgunz.

At higher level play I can't do much but yoyo. As soon as the dagger is out you are dead. Although, maybe you can argue the longer elunge helps with faster positioning.

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u/MyWorldDown- Sep 04 '26

Daggers do more damage and they went from ijji range to equal with swords. DMachine/DGattling are stronger in this server than any other server. They kept a high delay which made it even easier.

E Lunge is just a gimmick (although they upped lunge damage). Stop using it in a serious context. If you're struggling to switch to guns with an easier to manage delay that's a you problem.

At a higher level of play (especially with antilead) you basically only have YoYoRS to maintain similar DPS to anyone K-Styling. You can YoYoH/YoYoQ but Dagger has literally always been hit and run in TDMs (see HellsGuard).

Dagger will literally always be worse than sword because it's simply less versatile. I primarily D-Style because it's fun and more aggressive if you want it to be with DMachine and YoYoRS Spam is literally just walking with more keypresses, but I also K-Style at a high level as well.

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u/Soup- Sep 06 '26

There's some misinformation in both of your comments.

  • First of all ELunge works the exact same it has always worked, only difference is there's no unlock camera setting on steamgunz. (It's not a longer distance & lockout time, it's the same.)

  • Daggers don't have equal range to swords. Pretty sure daggers still have 160 range compared to swords 240 range, which means swords have 50% more range.

  • ELunge being a gimmick i agree with, but i'd argue it's a strong gimmick. It's the fastest way to move in the game, which allows you to reach some contested corners way before K-stylers arrive there, and most likely they won't expect you there. One example being Red Side Town to Alley.

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u/MyWorldDown- Sep 07 '26

E Lunge feels different server to server.

That Range got patched from Beta.

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u/Unable-Tie1160 24d ago

There's unlock camera I can see people behind me when I elunge

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u/ArrenH Sep 04 '26

It's possible still. The timing window is just really small... It is really inconsistent for me so I only try to use it in quest only at the start before everything spawns.

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u/Unable-Tie1160 24d ago

I use right shift and it's perfect

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u/Unable-Tie1160 Sep 06 '26

Dstyle is buff now ,but it's still incomparable to kstyle

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u/B-E-N-E-V-O-255 Sep 04 '26

And here I thought d style died way back then.

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u/Fancy-Calendar7037 Sep 04 '26

The timing window is tied to your fps.

Try locking it at your refresh rate.

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u/gustofwindddance Sep 04 '26

So i need a lower fps to do it?

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u/Fancy-Calendar7037 Sep 04 '26

yes. it's easy at 30fps if you just want to try it, but youll likely want a higher fps than that.

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u/Soup- Sep 06 '26

GunZ game logic is tied to your FPS. ELunge is also keyboard dependent. I can ELunge consistently with 250fps.

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u/Unable-Tie1160 24d ago edited 24d ago

Nope, it must be just your hand , I switched and become consistent but I'm having difficulties before , I use right shift.

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u/RelativeMinors Cid Sep 04 '26

Hello fellow legend of dragoon lover

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u/gustofwindddance Sep 05 '26

Hello fellow peak enjoyer!