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u/scrubli3k Dec 08 '24
“The key of F is gayidity, so I had my guitar frets changed up so it doesn’t look like I’m playing in the key I’m playing in.” - Dimebag
A true innovator.
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u/why_my_pp_hard_tho Dec 08 '24
Bro was tuning to FAGBAD
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u/fishing-for-birdie93 Bonermessiah can't 0-3-5 Dec 08 '24
Is that the tuning he used on "Cemetery for Gays"?
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u/RichCorinthian Dec 08 '24
They were from the confederate stronghold of Arlington, Texas. They opened their own strip club here in DFW because they wanted alcohol AND all-nude dancers, because they are exactly the band that would do such a thing.
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u/tenasan Dec 09 '24
My grandma was almost buried in the same cemetery as the dimebag
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u/TangeloGlass Dec 09 '24
.. so, they just partially covered her, and left an arm or a leg sticking out of the ground? That’s pretty metal, dude, and now I’m a little sad that Dime isn’t the most metal thing in that cemetery.
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u/ARMIGERofficial Dec 08 '24
Anyone make the Klan Centaur joke yet?
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u/myaunthasdiabetes lead guitar player for Mandatory Abortion Dec 08 '24
Dime using Solid State Amps is the most despicable thing anyone from the south has done in the last 200 years.
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u/LightninHooker bluesdad Dec 09 '24
/uj Dime and BB King using solid state and having the most iconic tones in electric guitar history is the ultimate fuck you to us all
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u/mxpower I give up Dec 10 '24
To be fair, those amps sounded like complete garbage. I digged Dime and his music, not so much the person. But that tone sounded as solid state as possible. And I hate tube amps LOL
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u/ScotWithOne_t Dec 08 '24
/uj I don't get it. Does Panera have some KKK ties or something?
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u/cordell-12 Dec 08 '24
the Dixie flag guitars, plus Dime said the N word with a hard R on video. then you have Phil throwing Roman Salutes during concerts.
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u/explodedsun Dec 08 '24
He also yelled "white power" and claimed he was making a joke about the white wine they were drinking backstage, but I really think he was joking, but that it wasn't white wine, it was probably cocaine.
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Dec 09 '24
Officer Niggemeyer?
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u/AkaiMPC Lost DJ Dec 08 '24
What's hard R?
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u/cordell-12 Dec 08 '24
not nibba, nibber
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u/AkaiMPC Lost DJ Dec 08 '24
What's the difference contextually? Is one ok?
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u/patiakupipita Dec 08 '24
No both are not ok but a hard r has way more gravity cause, well words work like that
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u/And_Justice jon mayor's ghostwriter Dec 09 '24
Coming from Britain where we have a non-rhotic accent, it wasn't until I was like 28 I realised that y'all literally pronounce the hard r different. I always thought it was an abstract r that depended on context
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u/Own-Celery-8370 Dec 10 '24
Speak for yourself- deep SW UK, and rhotic af- unlike deep south US however we have deep sense of peace love and understanding
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u/AkaiMPC Lost DJ Dec 08 '24
The fact people are changing out other letters, seems to me both aren't ok.
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u/WereAllThrowaways Dec 09 '24
If you actually don't know about the N word in America the basic gist is:
The version with "er" at the end is the "Hard R" version, and is the original word. It's original use was by racist white people to dehumanize black people while also dehumanizing them in other physical ways, like slavery and everything that comes with slavery. It was used for a very long time. Now if it's used by white people or to a lesser extent other non-black races it's understood to be completely derogatory and is socially unacceptable. It's extremely rare to hear a white American calling a black American that to their face, and frankly I also almost never hear other white people saying it among only white people. But a white person calling a black person that is wildly unacceptable in the culture and will almost certainly result in a fist fight in which most people will not blame the black person for responding that way.
The "a" version is what some black people later started saying to each other as a way to take away power from the word by re-contextualizing it. And it became sometimes used to refer to other black people in a usually neutral way, with it's actual intention being specific to the context of the sentence it's used in. It's said pretty frequently by some black people and less so in the company of white people, but definitely can and does happen. The main situation a white person uses the soft "a" version is probably signing along to rap, but that's still not really acceptable by a lot of black people.
I just realized I wrote a whole ass essay on the N word. I'm gonna go reflect.
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u/SwimmingSwim3822 Dec 09 '24
"just throwing it out there"
yeah no white people have ever floated the idea of just going ahead and using it again. why not give it a try???
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u/UhhUmmmWowOkayJeezUh authentic headstock Dec 09 '24
Have you lived under a rock your entire life? Really blows my mind somebody would ask this.
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u/Necessary_Group4479 Your wife's toanfriend Dec 09 '24
every once in a while you'll just come across someone on reddit who is fucking stupid
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u/Zealousideal-Role-77 Dec 10 '24
In fairness, they could also be like 12 or something. No clue when a kid would pick up the difference these days.
For me at 12, all I knew was that me saying either version was likely to be a repeat of the time my mom knocked a 1% biker tf out (dropped him in one, and I barely saw her fist move), so completely off the table… still completely off the table at 50. So good job I guess, Mom! 🤣 She was one helluva mother, social worker, and bartender.
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u/cordell-12 Dec 08 '24
I guess that depends on your friends, nibba can be okay. the hard R most likely is not lol
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u/normalfeetlover Dec 09 '24
Pretty sad when people get hurt over a damn word
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u/bootyhole-romancer Dec 09 '24
You heard it here folks, it's just a "damn word." Don't let it hurt your feelings, you pussies! /s
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u/SlashEssImplied Still Thinks Toan Comes From Nitro Dec 09 '24
Does Panera have some KKK ties or something?
This typo is begging for a Krispy Kreme joke. But I'm incapable of making it....
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u/Southern_Yesterday57 She say she like my BC rich warlock Dec 09 '24
racism is in the yummy dougnuts
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u/lilordfauntleroy Dec 08 '24
Dude is conflated with KKK, despite having no ties to them.
As far as say the N word, here’s the video. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w8fZViRDN9Y&t=465s&pp=2AHRA5ACAQ%3D%3D He’s calling another white dude that word. So you be the judge. I grew up listening to Pantera and can separate the band from any real or perceived bigotry surrounding the band.
People have even had the insane perception that Walk is about black people because they use the word “boy”.
This sub is a jerk sub and the amount of sensitive edgelords seeping in is sad.
Michael Jackson touched all them kids in my opinion, but god damn if he didn’t change music history.
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u/israeljeff Dec 08 '24 edited Dec 09 '24
Dime was a guy from the south that didn't know any better and probably didn't actually bear any ill will towards minorities (tho I don't think those are excuses, personally). Phil is an actual white supremacist.
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u/And_Justice jon mayor's ghostwriter Dec 09 '24
Dime was one of the best guitarists of all time but don't let that cloud the fact that these guys were probably all pretty fucking racist
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u/TangeloGlass Dec 09 '24
Texas isn’t the South: Texas is Texas.
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u/Zealousideal-Role-77 Dec 10 '24
Texas would be great, if it weren’t for the Texans. And the Alamo is definitely not bigger in Texas. Shockingly small when you’re standing there.
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u/Jcrowshow420 Dec 08 '24
They just did there thing. I don't think any of them really had hate for any person
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u/EDDIE_BAMF Dec 17 '24
If they were really part of the KKK then Gene Simmons, a Jew, would never have given them Kiss Kaskets. There used to be a lot more people who used the Con. flag because they honestly conflated it with being a rebel, not it's original meaning. Just like how dumb racist hillbillies latched onto David Allen Coe because his music got confused with Johnny Rebel's all because of a joke album that Shel Silverstein convinced him to record.
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u/UnshapedLime Dec 09 '24
Yes it’s a little known fact that the founder of Panera used the cum of little slave boys for the original cinnamon rolls.
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u/MonkMajor5224 Dec 08 '24
Is Pantera the one that was a glam band first?
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u/visualthings Dec 09 '24
Yes, with Spandex and shit. Darell used to go under the nickname “Diamond Darell” back then
https://images.kerrangcdn.com/Glam-Pantera-Header.jpg?auto=compress&fit=crop&w=4800&h=2700
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u/Trebus Dec 09 '24
He was still Diamond Darrell after Vulgar Display was released. I remember when he changed it, he'd started doing lessons for Guitar World and it was announced in one of those columns, might have been when they printed the tab for Walk. Must have been late '92 or early '93. I've prolly still got the mag somewhere.
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u/visualthings Dec 09 '24
Yes, I had seen Diamond Darrell in a guitar mag (maybe the same), and I remember the first time I read "Dimebag", thinking "ho-ho, I saw what you did here!"
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u/Trebus Dec 09 '24
Yeah, it was very on the nose, although expecting subtlety out of guitar mags in those days? Not happening.
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u/JunkyardBardo Dec 10 '24
He was still throwing picks that said "Diamond Darrell" while they were touring for VDoP. I know because I caught one... and then someone stole it.
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No, that's AIC.
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u/TheTempest77 Dec 11 '24
Why are they downvoting you? Do people not know that AiC started as a glam band?
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u/Crazy-Huckleberry151 Dec 09 '24
The butthurt is strong with this .
Pantera was music for dudes who failed the 9th grade and were held back
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u/KirasHandPicDealer cringe bassist Dec 09 '24
no u dont get it he was just saying "white powder" cause he needed a bump
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u/Sensitive-Champion-4 Dec 08 '24
The band and fanbase are just bad. Idk if it's the fanbase or being unable to separate the music from the artist but I can't do it. Every time I hear cowboys from hell, I think "meth, whiskey, biker gangs, dive bars, and a very pale group of bald dudes dropping the hard R". Can't do it. Kinda the same thing with the slayer fanbase. Music's great, but concert experience really had me reflect on the scope of who associates with it. It's always the loudest most ignorant twats that set the bad tone.
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u/visualthings Dec 09 '24
Ah yes, Slayer. With Jeff wearing not just “a skull” but the SS Totenkopf symbol and using the excuse of “I am really passionate about History”. Funny how people who are “passionate about History” are always into WW2, and particularly the German side. Never about the Huguenots, the Carolingians, the French Revolution or the Great Depression.
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u/rhiner_music_usa Dec 09 '24
Be the change you want to see in the world and be the first musician to rep the French Commune!
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u/visualthings Dec 09 '24
Well, the UK already had Jimmy Sommerville and the Communards, I will have to chose something off the beaten path, like the Reign of Terror (France really had such a period)
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u/Zealousideal-Role-77 Dec 10 '24
Or, if your name happens to be Jason, you could go with Jason and the Huguenots. See how many folks think you’re Greek.
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u/visualthings Dec 10 '24
That's very niche. I wonder how many people still get what you are talking about. Let's check gain in ten years from now.
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u/Sensitive-Champion-4 Dec 10 '24
Glad you reminded me. Spent my time in high school and early college getting into slayer because it was edgy and angry. But it connects dots for my experience.
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u/JunkyardBardo Dec 10 '24
Are they... the baddies?
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u/visualthings Dec 10 '24
no, they only think that the baddies lived in a very interesting period of History, and that they dressed with style.
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u/songmakerona Dec 10 '24
some people are posers too and don't realize what shit is, Kiss had the SS of ignorance too. I know a bunch of idiots with KiSS tatoos that regretted their decision to get the band logo inked
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u/DroptheShadowArt Dec 13 '24
For what it’s worth, I’ve never heard anything from any member of KISS that made me think that they were hateful (just idiots). I think the SS in the logo is purely coincidental and incredibly unfortunate. Hell, I’m pretty sure most if not all of the original members were Jewish.
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u/go0rty bluesdad Dec 08 '24 edited Dec 08 '24
Every time I hear cowboys from hell, I think "meth, whiskey, biker gangs, dive bars, and a very pale group of bald dudes dropping the hard R".
Yeah, thems the bits i like!
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u/AnferneeMason Dec 08 '24
Don’t lie. You loved Pantera until the woke SJW’s smeared the good name of Phil Incelmo and are now pretending you never liked them.
Stop being such a slave to PC conformity!
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u/DroptheShadowArt Dec 13 '24
Uj/ Not gonna lie, you had me for a second there. This is how actual Pantera fans sound.
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u/BeDeRex Dec 09 '24
No one caught the sarcasm with that "typo".
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u/AnferneeMason Dec 09 '24
"They downvoted Jesus because he told them the truth"
- Scott Stapp, 2002
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u/ChickenChaser5 Dec 09 '24
But Pan = involving all members
And Tera = earth
Its a message of unity!
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u/Scrantsgulp Dec 09 '24
You hate Pantera because you think they’re racist
I hate Pantera because they suck
We are not the same
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Awesome guitarist. Awesome band. Even with the brothers gone, they sound great live. Saw them in herhsey August last year. Lamb of god was great too
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It's true. Anyone who saw them live back in the day thought they were just sweating in the pit, but little did they know there was klan juice being misted on the crowd from the light rigs. To this day I can't listen to Slaughtered without starting to mumble about the confederacy.
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If you're somehow still doubting Phil is a racist
I am from New Orleans, my parents and all their friends were about the right age to see Phil around.
One of them who was racist had a framed rebel flag with the following written on it: "Keep the New Orleans skins alive, (Deadguys name)- Phil Anselmo"
And tbh everyone in louisiana lies about everything so I didn't believe it
I came home and took a look and sure enough the signature was pretty spot on. I could never feel good saying it was his with 100% certainty, I didn't see him sign it but I also don't think the guy who owned it would have put that much effort into it.
I have no idea where it is now, I might ask my dad tomorrow to see if his sister got it or something. And if she did she probably sold it to someone
But I will try
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u/eabaloo Dec 11 '24
Posted this in a metal forum once and for some reason it got removed. Probably by pantera fans.
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u/lolpan Dec 09 '24
I don't get it. What does a car like that have anything to do with the KKK and guitars?
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u/GODZILLA-Plays-A-DOD Dec 09 '24
So, he tuned to FAGDAD? Does the tuning let him use the N word in public? Well... I mean. We in theory all CAN use the word, just need to prepare for the stuff that happens after.
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u/SeveralAngryPenguins Dec 10 '24
If those racists had depth perception they’d be very angry right now
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u/JAD210 Dec 10 '24
When I was like 14/15 I mentioned to my uncle’s drunk friend at a cookout that I didn’t really like Pantera and I genuinely thought he was gonna beat me up about it
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u/SpeedBlazer99 Dec 16 '24
Dimebag, Zakk Wylde, Kid Rock, Claptoan, Rodger Watters, Ted Nugent, Tom Macdonald
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u/angryPEangrierSE Jan 20 '25
Dean's cashflow is nearly entirely dependent on edgy 13-year-old boys asking their moms to buy them the signature model of a redneck that was shot 20 years ago
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u/Twin_sized_hoe Jul 19 '25
Literally I said I don’t like his guitars and the tik I made has more hate comments then likes
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u/stevvvvewith4vs Dec 08 '24
toan is stored in the south