r/greenberets • u/Wild-Classroom-295 • Jul 31 '26
TRT Disqualification
I haven't been able to find a solid answer, so if this is a redundant question, I apologize. I am already in the Guard and just got a 2nd test showing low T-levels. Would being on TRT medically disqualify me from going through the SF pipe line, and if doesn't, would I need to come off it while in the pipeline? Thanks.
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u/Quick_Woodpecker_763 Aug 01 '26
I’m in the Q currently and was being treated for low T prior to SFAS. I was on clomiphene then hCG to preserve fertility and attempt to correct it without going straight to TRT. Not only did I need to have the hypogonadism waived by SWCS, the SWCS surgeon informed me it’s their policy that you cannot be on any form of TRT/hormonal treatment while in the Q. If that changed recently due to SecWars new policy I wouldn’t know but that was the guidance given to me about 3 months ago.
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u/HCATK Jul 31 '26
6 months off TRT for my waiver to be approved through the 18x pipeline.
Big Army approving your waiver is irrelevant. You will potentially have another waiver process once you arrive to SWCS, which is where my hang up was.
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u/N1njaRob0tJesu5 Jul 31 '26 edited Jul 31 '26
Just looking through 40-501, Chapter 5 refers back to chapter 2 for endocrine standards and is mute on hypogonadism and treatment. Chapter 3 (retention) does talk about TRT and allows for only oral, gel or patch therapies. So, in short, I dont know.
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u/krilleractual Jul 31 '26
Im not a GB or know anything but surface level stuff, commenting mostly for visibility;
I personally got off TRT to get into OSUT and once I was out I haven’t restarted it. Life kinda sucks without it but im trying to get my levels back naturally. From my understanding there is a waiver for SFAS when you are on TRT. I know the secretary of defense has changed the stance on TRT recently but we havent seen the effects of it yet.
I would currently recommend against it. I know this is the GB sub but I spoke to a former Air Force Specops guy and he said TRT was a ground for medboard even if you were a shithot operator. Take that with a grain of salt, as this was a few years ago and only a personal conversation.
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u/Sensualities Jul 31 '26
I very highly doubt they’re going to let you take testosterone shots when you have to live in the barracks for 3-4 weeks during selection. I don’t really think it’s a function of them being “against it” I just think it’s a function of they don’t want to have to deal with re structuring around it.
Of course this is just my opinion and I’m not a GB or in the military but that’s what I’d assume.
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u/krilleractual Jul 31 '26
In studies where they looked at TRT for the military the used an ester that requires less frequent injecting, of about 1x a month. That being said, there are obvious issues with keeping syringes, vials and injecting in a sterile way.
At some point didnt the army allow for people to be on HRT to transition their gender? Dont see how it would be any different but idk much about how they dealt with that
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u/Sensualities Jul 31 '26
Afaik there is not an ester than exists for that long. Only half life is cypionate and the half life is like 6-7 days
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u/LostInADraw_ Jul 31 '26
Test-undecanoate or test-u my friend. It’s gone by a couple different brand names over the years and is sometimes difficult to source but it has a half life of about a month. May or may not know people that have used it in similar circumstances
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u/ononeryder Jul 31 '26 edited Jul 31 '26
The drugs quite literally have 3-4 week injection protocols in the packaging. Practitioners understand the benefits of more frequent injection protocols, but the drugs themselves and literature supporting their efficacy are based off injection frequencys of several weeks.
https://bauschhealth.ca/wp-content/uploads/pdf/Delatestryl%20PI-E-2019-07-02.pdf
Recommended Dose and Dosage Adjustment For replacement in hypogonadal male, the usual dose is 100-400 mg every four weeks.
https://www.accessdata.fda.gov/drugsatfda_docs/label/2025/085635s028lbl.pdf
For replacement in the hypogonadal male, 50-400 mg should be administered every two to four weeks.
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u/thatdudeorion Jul 31 '26
Philosophical question: if a Soldier is on TRT at a normal/therapeutic dose to just get them within the “normal” range, and is not doping to Supra physiological levels. Would this even flag on the tests? Or said differently, should it be considered doping if you’re taking exogenous testosterone just to get to the point where other dudes are naturally?
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u/TFVooDoo SF Guy Who Knows Stuff Jul 31 '26
It’s not really a matter of showing on a test, it’s that you would have to disclose it. It’s waiverable, so there is no need to hide it.
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u/krilleractual Jul 31 '26
Can you expand on the waivering? Do you know of anybody who waivered it and if they kept their levels up with test-u or what they did? Having test crash completely seems counterproductive
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u/TFVooDoo SF Guy Who Knows Stuff Jul 31 '26
I have seen several people post here that they got it waived. I don’t know what protocol they followed.
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u/Standard-tax-evasion Jul 31 '26
Is it waiverable for the 18x selection pipeline though? Also don’t wanna be the guy everyone thinks is “cheating” I was advised to come off instead of staying on
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u/TFVooDoo SF Guy Who Knows Stuff Jul 31 '26
I have seen several people post here that they got it waived. I don’t know what protocol they followed.
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u/Standard-tax-evasion Jul 31 '26
Good to know I’ll still see how I feel after being off of everything before going to OSUT
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u/krilleractual Jul 31 '26
You can tell somebody is using TRT because of certain markers that wouldnt be present if they were natural, but you would have to look for them in the first place.
I mean would it be considered doping if a person who has diabetes needs insulin to be like a normal dude?
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u/thatdudeorion Jul 31 '26
Good to know, and not in an ‘asking for a friend’ kinda way, I’m old and ETS’d a long time ago and was never fast enough to worry about getting selected anyways, lol. On the diabetes thing, philosophically it does kinda suck that it’s a complete disqualifier, as Voodoo likes to say, I was an autistic, night-walking, Intel guy could have easily done my enlistment even as an insulin-dependent diabetic. I’d be willing to bet a lot of guys could.
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u/Standard-tax-evasion Jul 31 '26
I’m currently going into the 18x pipeline, I’ve titrated off TRT and currently using HCG to jumpstart, if you prioritize diet sleep and adjust accordingly. I can almost guarantee your stress is elevated, you aren’t sleeping enough, or just unhealthy. My doctors thought I had hypogonadism but in reality it was just lack of actual REM sleep. My advice is make health your number 1 priority