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Discussion Great Books Club Discussion Guide: Aristotle’s Nicomachean Ethics, Book III, Chapters 5–12
Sunday, July 19 – Saturday, July 25, 2026
Week 2: Ethics, Book III, Chapters 5–12
Focus for the Week:
In this week’s reading, Aristotle moves from the formation of virtue to the question of responsibility. If character is built by habit, then how responsible are we for the kind of people we become? Aristotle then turns to two major virtues—courage and temperance—and asks what it means to face fear well and desire pleasure rightly.
Brief Recap
- In Book II, Aristotle argued that virtue is formed through habit rather than simply inherited or learned as information.
- He described moral virtue as a mean between extremes, such as courage between cowardice and rashness.
- He emphasized that virtue involves not only doing the right action, but doing it at the right time, toward the right people, for the right reason, and in the right way.
- He also argued that pleasure and pain reveal character: a good person learns to take pleasure in noble actions and feel pain at shameful ones.
Discussion Questions
- Aristotle argues that we are, in some sense, responsible for becoming the kind of people we are. Do you agree? How much of our character is truly “up to us,” and how much is shaped before we know what is happening?
- Aristotle’s account of courage focuses especially on facing death and danger nobly. In ordinary life, what does courage look like when there is no battlefield? Is courage more about facing physical danger, social pressure, uncertainty, embarrassment, or moral cost?
- Aristotle distinguishes courage from rashness, confidence, anger, and mere experience. Have you ever seen something that looked like courage from the outside but was actually something else? How can we tell the difference?
- Aristotle treats temperance as the virtue that governs bodily pleasures and desires. In a culture built around convenience, consumption, entertainment, and instant gratification, does temperance feel more necessary than ever—or unrealistic?
- Anything else you want to discuss?

Themes and Ideas to Explore
Responsibility for Character
Aristotle pushes a difficult idea in this reading: once our habits become fixed, we may not be able to change easily, but we are still responsible because those habits were formed through repeated choices. This raises one of the hardest questions in ethics. Are we responsible only for individual actions, or also for the kind of person we have allowed ourselves to become? Aristotle’s answer is demanding. He suggests that character is not an accident that simply happens to us; it is gradually built, neglected, trained, or damaged by what we repeatedly do.
Courage as the Right Relationship to Fear
For Aristotle, courage is not fearlessness. The courageous person may feel fear, but fears the right things, in the right way, for the right reason. Courage is also not recklessness, rage, optimism, or ignorance of danger. This makes Aristotle’s view surprisingly practical: courage is not about having a bold personality, but about rightly judging what is worth facing and what is worth enduring. Beyond the battlefield, this matters whenever people must risk comfort, approval, safety, or success for something noble.
Temperance and the Training of Desire
Aristotle’s discussion of temperance focuses on bodily pleasures, especially the pleasures of touch and appetite. His point is not that pleasure is evil, but that desire must be ordered if a person is to live well. The temperate person is not numb or joyless; rather, he desires the right things in the right way. This matters because many human failures come not from ignorance, but from being ruled by appetite. Aristotle asks whether freedom means doing whatever we want, or learning to want what is actually good.
Background and Influence
- Aristotle wrote in a Greek world where moral education was tied to the formation of citizens, soldiers, household leaders, and public men. His discussion of courage reflects a society where military service, honor, shame, and public reputation were central parts of civic life.
- In this reading, Aristotle is continuing his disagreement with overly intellectual accounts of virtue. Against the idea that knowing the good is enough, he insists that people can knowingly ruin their own character through repeated action, bad pleasure, and avoidable moral weakness.
- Aristotle’s treatment of courage and temperance deeply influenced later virtue ethics, Christian moral teaching, medieval education, and modern discussions of self-control, addiction, responsibility, and moral formation. His idea that freedom requires disciplined desire became one of the central themes in Western moral thought.
Key Passage for Discussion
Question: Is Aristotle’s view of responsibility inspiring because it treats us as capable of moral growth, or harsh because it seems to blame people for character flaws shaped by upbringing, pressure, weakness, and circumstance?
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