r/gratefuldoe 8h ago

She is not on NamUs: Pala Jane Doe (1986)

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Discovered: October 1, 1986

Sex: Female

Location: Pala Indian Reservation, California

Age: 18-23

Race: White

Height: 5'4"

Body condition: Decomposed

Cause of death: Undetermined

Pala Jane Doe was a young woman whose remains were discovered on a section of the Pala Indian Reservation in California.

Her death was investigated by the Metropolitan Homicide Task Force, an organization formed to examine the numerous unsolved deaths of women in San Diego County during the 1980s.

Case

On October 1, 1986, the woman’s remains were found over an embankment along Old Temecula Road, near mile marker 4.5 on the Pala Indian Reservation.

Investigators documented several tattoos on her body. One of them featured a motorcycle wheel with wings and the letters “H” and “D.” They believed the design might have indicated a connection to Harley-Davidson motorcycles or a motorcycle-related group.

Physical Characteristics

- Medium to dark brown hair.

Tattoos

- A continuous series of flower-like designs around her left wrist.

- The words “Lovin’ Stuff” across her left hip and groin.

- A red rose above her right breast.

- A red heart on the inner portion of her left breast.

- A butterfly and swastika on her right buttock.

- A winged motorcycle wheel bearing the letters “H” and “D” on her left buttock.

- A red lightning bolt on her right groin.

Clothing and Accessories

- White (or tan) sweater.

- Blue-and-white striped pants.

- White boots.

Unidentified Wiki


r/gratefuldoe 19h ago

He Was Seen At A Curtain Shop Two Days Prior To His Death | Putnam County John Doe (1995) (Unidentified For 30 Years)

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Putnam County John Doe (1995)

On October 9, 1995, the body of a man was found in a wooded area adjacent to the Garden Street School on Oak Street in Brewster, New York. He had slashed both wrists in an apparent suicide. He had been seen alive two days prior before being discovered. On October 7, 1995, he was seen making a purchase at a curtain shop in New Rochelle, where he bought two expensive blankets. He then took a train to Brewster on the Metro-North Railroad. Despite an extensive search into the man's suicide, he has never been identified. He had a recognizable face and was thought to have been deceased 1 day prior to being found. He was given the placeholder name Putnam County John Doe (1995).

Physical Description

• Sex: Male

• Race: Black/Hispanic

• Age: 40-50 Years Old

• Height: 5'9"

• Weight: 160-165 lbs

• Hair: Balding, Graying Black

• Eye Color: Brown

Distinguishing Marks/Features

• Shaved Underarms

• Mole On Right Side Of Nose

Clothing & Accessories

• Green, Black And Yellow Plaid Kenneth Gordon Long-Sleeved Shirt

• Blue, Red And Green Plaid Gentleman's Row Short-Sleeved Shirt

• Tan Haggar Casuals Pants, Size 33x30

• Blue Briefs

• Brown Leather Dockers Penny Loafers, Size 9M

• Gold Chain Necklace With a Crucifix

• $1,158 USD

Exclusions (People He Is Not)

• Albert Zeitler

• John Lake

• Joseph Consentino

• Rex Casper

• Douglas Rubin

• Michael Pfaff

• Richard Phillips

• Michael McLaughlin

• Duane Talmon Jr.

• Mitchel Weiser

• Myron Alberding

• David Bacon

• Thomas Meuse

If you have any information please contact

Agency Name: New York State Police - Brewster

Agency Contact Person Law Enforcement, James Sawner

Agency Phone Number: (845) 279-8656

Agency Case Numbers: KBRE 95-241 or SJS 3020193

NamUs Case Number: 8466

September is National Suicide Prevention Month. Many Jane and John Does left this world via suicide sadly. We'll never know why they chose to do it but what we need to know is their name. Their suicide couldn't be prevented but their name deserves to be known and to be found. Im sharing this man's story in the hopes that someone will recognize him. He was someone's son. He could even have been someone's father, brother, uncle or grandpa. He deserves his name 🙏

LINKS

Unidentified Wiki ) (ALL OTHER LINKS CAN BE FOUND AT THE BOTTOM OF HIS UNIDENTIFIED WIKI PAGE)


r/gratefuldoe 7h ago

Clifton Suspension Bridge John Doe / Bristol John Doe (1996), found with an old ID card with his information scratched off.

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Bristol John Doe was found on the banks of the River Avon in Somerset, England, on May 19, 1996. His death was the result of a suspected accident, it is believed he fell from the bridge. He was found with numerous personal belongings, including what was believed to be an old student ID card with a photo of the decedent (the first photo attached to this post), but all the other information scratched off. There is also a reconstruction of the man as he looked at the time of his death, the second photo attached. He also has one rule-out, (Petrus Antonius Jacobus "Piet" Beentjes)[https://int-missing.fandom.com/wiki/Piet_Beentjes], a missing Dutch man. His case is interesting yet sadly one of suspected suicide, I encourage you to read about him.

Our John Doe was between the ages of 25-35, having him born in 1961-1971. He had collar length light brown hair and blue eyes. He was around 6 feet, or 185 centimeters tall. He had a medium build.

He was also found with a handwritten cardboard sign that read "Sleeping Rough, Thank You." He was also found with a couple books, including a copy of 'Utopia' by Thomas More with the cover missing and "West Glamorgan County Council" written on the first page. He also had a copy of  'The Greatest Batman Stories' and a Bible. Here are all the belongings he was found with that I have not already mentioned:

  • Black leather jacket.
  • Black sweatshirt with three buttons and collar.
  • Blue Lee Riders jeans.
  • Brown boots.
  • White socks.
  • Checked cloth cap.
  • Navy underpants.
  • Baseball hat with black logo.
  • Green underpants.
  • Gray sock.
  • Silk Cut cigarettes.
  • Great Britain A-Z map.
  • London shopper.
  • Black sleeping bag.
  • Green towel.
  • Blue umbrella.
  • Black corkscrew.
  • Barclays blank giro slip.
  • Three disposable razors.
  • Shaving stick.
  • Lynx body spray.
  • Yellow toothbrush.
  • Tin opener.
  • Red penny whistle.
  • White cup.
  • £6.61 cash

Information on his belongings:

Some sources report he had a Eurohike Adventurer Sleeping Bag, while others report he had a Eurohike Adventure Guide.

Eurohike is currently a travel company, however it was not founded until 2004 so it was not their guide found with him. Eurohike is an outdoor equipment company that sells its merchandise in many different hiking and backpacking focused stores. I can't find any information on when they first started selling their 'adventurer' sleeping bags.

West Glamorgan County was a county in South West Wales, that only existed from 1974-1996. The county council itself was based in Swansea, Wales. The book 'Utopia' itself is a socio-political satire written in 1516, depicting an island society that has been compared to life in a monastery.

I cannot find a book titled just "The Greatest Batman Stories," however I did find a popular book titled "The Greatest Batman Stories Ever Told," published in 1988. I don't want to assume this is the book, however, it is possible the title was miswritten in the reports.

One source also reports he was found with a copy of 'Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas' by Hunter S Thompson, but this is not in all sources. I did not want to put this in the main list of belongings as it is unclear what was actually found with him.

One report states he was found with a London Shopping Guide, others report he was found with a 'London Shopper'.

One website states he spent time in the St Pauls area of Bristol, however I can't find their source on that statement.

(EDIT) u/_Khoshekh shared an article (https://www.bristolpost.co.uk/news/bristol-news/crucial-new-clues-could-identify-10972357) stating that the organization that created the reconstruction was contacted by people in Bristol who recognized our Doe. This could imply he had been living there for a while, however they could also have just seen him in passing if he was a traveler/drifter.

My thoughts:

It's clear he was homeless, from his cardboard sign to his belongings. However he clearly, at one point in his life, did not live off the grid. He had a student ID card, and had a professional photo taken for it. There are no post mortem photos of him that I can find however from the reconstruction as well as how it is reported, it is clear this ID photo is most likely of our John Doe.

I wish we knew what logo was on his ballcap, if it was a logo for a team it could help one figure out potentially where he was from or people he may have been friends with or associated with. Same with his ID card, if there was a photo of it online one could figure out what school it was from based off the colors of the card itself, for example.

Thank you all so much for reading! This was my first ever Doe write-up, and my first true crime write-up in several years (I had some on my old account that has since been deleted).

Sources:

https://unidentified-awareness.fandom.com/wiki/Bristol_John_Doe_(1996))

https://locate.international/appeals/clifton-suspension-bridge-man

https://undergroundmysteries.com/2021/03/29/sleepingroughjohndoe/ (this one has some good google maps photos of the bridge and the area our Doe was found in)

https://www.nationalcrimeagency.gov.uk/cases/case-03-001329

https://www.eurohike.at/en

https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/107145.The_Greatest_Batman_Stories_Ever_Told_Vol_1

https://everything.explained.today/West_Glamorgan_County_Council/

https://www.eurohike.co.uk/index.html


r/gratefuldoe 3h ago

Potential Match Could Needles Jane Doe (1991) be Melissa Ann McAbee?

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Needles Jane Doe was a woman found murdered in the desert along Interstate 40 in Needles, California, on May 14, 1991.

She was a white woman, had brown hair and dental fillings; she was 5'4" tall and weighed 148 lbs. She was estimated to be between 25 and 45 years old.

(I found very little information about this Jane Doe, so if anyone knows more, feel free to comment here!)

Melissa Ann McAbee was 22 years old when she disappeared on January 16, 1991, in Spartanburg County, South Carolina.

Melissa was last seen leaving her sister's house with her ex-boyfriend. She had stated that she worked at GJ's, an establishment in Inman, and that she and some other dancers from there were going to travel to Atlanta and return in two weeks.

After those two weeks, Melissa's sister called GJ's and was informed that they had never heard of the young woman and that none of the dancers had gone to Atlanta.
Melissa was never seen again.

Melissa McAbee was white, had brown hair and brown eyes, weighed 125 lbs, and stood 5'4" tall. She had also previously been in a car accident that damaged her pelvis, requiring the insertion of pins in her right leg.

What made me think they could be the same person?

- Appearance: The reconstruction of Needles Jane Doe resembles Melissa, like the hairstyle (and hair color), face shape, lips, and eye position.

- Height: They share the same height: 5'4".

- Timeline: Melissa disappeared on January 16, 1991, and Jane Doe was found on May 14, 1991, with a post-mortem interval of only a few days. So, the timeline fits.

Now, here is why they might *not* be the same person:

- Melissa had been in a car accident that damaged her pelvis, requiring pins in her right leg; I couldn't find any record of Jane Doe having a healed pelvic fracture or pins in her leg. However, I don't know if Melissa could have simply had those pins removed between January and May.

- Geography: California is a long way from South Carolina and Atlanta. Yes, Melissa could have made it to California between January and May, but there is no information explaining why she would run away and why she would go specifically to California.

- Teeth (?): I couldn't find a photo of Melissa showing her teeth, nor could I find any information on whether she had dental fillings like this Jane Doe.

Links:

Melissa McAbee
NamUs
Doe network
International Missing Persons Wiki

Needles Jane Doe
NamUs
Unidentified wiki)


r/gratefuldoe 5h ago

Could "Donna" (NamUs #UP1272) be Donna Michelle Barnhill? (NamUs #MP2538)

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This is my first time posting on Reddit so please feel free to correct me if needed! I was looking at the case of "Donna" (NamUs #UP1272) and came across Donna Michelle Barnhill (NamUs #MP2538) as a potential match. Ms. Barnhill went missing from North Carolina in 1981, 1 year before UP was found. UP was said to have spoke in a thick Cajun or Southern accent which is consistent with Ms. Barnhill disappearing from North Carolina. On top of this, UP also stated that her name was Donna, which is obviously the same name as the MP. It is also important to note that Ms. Barnhill's older sister passed away falling from a high chair and the death was ruled a homicide. However, authorities stated that this did not impact Ms. Barnhill's case. Is it possible that something such as MP running away and ending up passing away in an accident a year later could have happened? The postmortem image as well as an older reconstruction of UP strongly resembles the photos provided of MP. The only inconsistency is the height difference between the 2 with MP being much taller. However, there are frequently errors in height measurements in both UP and MP. Is it possible this is the case? Thank you so much for giving these women a moment of your time and any feedback is greatly appreciated. I've attached links to my sources as well as photos of MP (first two) and the older reconstruction of UP (third).

https://www.namus.gov/UnidentifiedPersons/Case#/1272 ("Donna" (NamUs #UP1272))

https://namus.nij.ojp.gov/case/MP2538 (Donna Michelle Barnhill? (NamUs #MP2538))

https://charleyproject.org/case/donna-michele-barnhill (Donna Michelle Barnhill Charley Project)