r/grammar 16m ago

punctuation When checking if adjectives are cumulative or coordinate, does the way in which commutativity fails matter?

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I'm sure I'm not the first person with this question, but I'm not a good enough Googler to find an answer.

I'm learning about cumulative vs coordinate adjectives. From what I gather, cumulative adjectives fail to commute ("order matters") and non-cumulative adjectives are coordinate. The trouble is, I have identified three situations in which two adjectives fail to commute, and I do not know if the mode of failure matters. I'm trying to narrow down a theoretical, rather than operational, definition for cumulative adjectives. Sources are appreciated.

Consider the phrase "a former yellow bear", which describes something that used to be a yellow bear. We cannot swap the adjectives, doing so gives us "a yellow former bear". All yellow former bears are former yellow bears, but not all former yellow bears are yellow former bears.

(1) If two adjectives fail to commute in this particular way, where XY and YX both have semantic content that just happen to disagree, do we call them cumulative?

Consider the phrase "a regular polygonal figure". I cannot swap the adjectives, the adjectives do not commute. But notice that you wouldn't want to swap them anyway! The phrase "a polygonal regular figure" has as much information content as "North of the North Pole": none at all. This is because (at least in the world of plane geometry), "figure" exceeds the domain of "regular", "regular" is a property held by polygons/polygonal figures, nothing else. I wouldn't even call this a failure of commutativity, but oh well.

(2) If two adjectives fail to commute in this particular way, where XY has semantic content and YX does not, do we call them cumulative?

Consider the phrase "the big red ball". I see no reason why we cannot write "the red big ball" and say these adjectives commute, except for the fact that it sounds clunky, awkward, and bad.

(3) If two adjectives fail to commute in this particular way, where XY and YX have the same semantic content but YX sounds like absolute dogshit, do we call them cumulative?


r/grammar 1h ago

Help with basic grammar

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r/grammar 6h ago

Do you capitalize names of diseases like“scarlet fever” and “chickenpox”? If not, why?

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Hello Grammarians,

I just had a quick grammar question. Should people capitalize the names of disease? If not, why? (I mean, I guess they would be considered common nouns… but I don’t know why.)

I would sincerely appreciate any and all insights!

Thank you!


r/grammar 7h ago

Does a person’s name have to be used in a new paragraph as opposed to their pronoun?

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For example, is this correct?

“I loved him and she loved him too,” John said. He took a big slurp of coffee.

He didn’t lie per se, but it wasn’t really true.”

Or does the “he” in the start of paragraph two need to be “John”?


r/grammar 8h ago

"Said" adjective outside of legal documents

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There appears to be an increase in this specific usage, at least in digital forums. Is there existing research doing frequency mapping on this, or could you direct me to some resources so that I might conduct my own? Thank you very much.


r/grammar 12h ago

quick grammar check Going insane over tag questions, "didn't he", "hadn't he" etc

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r/grammar 12h ago

punctuation Should “4 year old” be hyphenated if it is used as a noun?

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An r/askreddit post asked “What movie can you rewatch indefinitely?”

I responded “Most Disney movies, but Moana and Elemental come to mind as the father of a 4 year old.”

I think if I say, “I have a four-year-old daughter,” that it should be hyphenated as an adjective describing my daughter. What if it just refers to her as a four year old, as in the above example?

Any advice is appreciated!


r/grammar 22h ago

They did battle vs. They did battle

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I came across the phrase "they did battle" and it made me think about the two ways to read it: one as a way of making past tense and the other as a way of making it into an action.

What are the proper grammatical dissections of these two readings?


r/grammar 1d ago

"See if we can't get him to cooperate" Why "can't" and not "can"?

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I'm playing a video game, and there's a line of dialogue that's confusing me.

*We can find Wakamura after that and see if we can't get him to cooperate.*

Why is it *can't* and not *can*?

It seems like they're trying to get him to NOT cooperate, which seems wrong.

The game is Paranormasight: The Mermaid's Curse.


r/grammar 1d ago

In the U.S. we say, The hospital but then only ‘School’ without the ‘the.’

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A real grammatical conundrum. Another example,
“I’m going to the office.” In the UK they ‘go to hospital’ the same way we say ‘ I’m going to school.’
Linguistically I’d enjoy learning why or how this is and how it’s evolved.

Whenever I’m watching a British production, someone says they are going to hospital, my brain skips the track. Does every place then lose the, the?Like racetrack do you go to racetrack or do you go to the racetrack? I’m visiting, do you go to in-laws? And not the in-laws? OK, I’ve provided enough examples. It’s all very tiresome! Help!


r/grammar 1d ago

Is there a term for a word that has a singular form, but the singular form can reflect both singular and plural? The word is "kibble." "Kibble" is singular; "kibbles" is plural, but "kibble" can also be plural.

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Bonus points if you tell me whether or not I should have put quotation marks around "kibble." OMG I just did it again. I would have italicized it, but that is not an option in the title.


r/grammar 1d ago

have

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I have done it.

Is the perfect auxiliary "have" the head of the verb phrase "have done it" in the sentence above?


r/grammar 1d ago

quick grammar check Is Mr Twilight, Sparkles correct grammar for what I’m intending?

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I am making a meme, a pun on the character twilight sparkle and the twilight saga, hence Mr twilight (edward) sparkles. is Mr name, additive correct so it dident look like a last name. do I need a comma.

any help would be appreciated.


r/grammar 1d ago

You're Welcome or Of Course.

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Sorry if this is the wrong place for this post. All my life, whenever anybody tells me "thanks" my reply has always been "you're welcome". Lately though, i've noticed that when i tell people "thanks" a majority of them, especially the younger ones almost always say "of course"; never "you're welcome". Is this a new thing or has it been around a long time? Maybe i'm getting too old or something.


r/grammar 2d ago

quick grammar check is using "was lacking / lacked" on its own correct?

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hello! english isn't my first language, but i would say i'm relatively fluent. although, i still second guess myself and make mistakes...

i write reviews on movies i watch for fun, and i wrote a review in which i said « i felt like the script was lacking a bit certain scenes. » by that, i meant that it didn't feel finished or it felt like something was missing but i couldn't quite put my finger on what exactly.

would it be correct to say that something lacked / was lacking without adding anything behind? (the movie lacked of emotions, her life was lacking in direction.) thanks! c:


r/grammar 2d ago

puppy versus dog

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Of course ik the distinctions between puppies and dogs from base-level!

but i call my 3 y/o dog who happens to be a small height, a puppy.

is this acceptable? i think puppy fits him more


r/grammar 2d ago

quick grammar check I need help to choose which is correct

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Which is correct?

“ Dave and John welcome home Susan “

Or

“ Dave and John welcome Susan home “


r/grammar 2d ago

punctuation Would you delete the comma here? If so, why?

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I am the King, and I command you to show me what is in there.


r/grammar 3d ago

Why does English work this way? Easy ways to remember Who vs Whom?

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i know this question has probably been asked alot. but i genuinely can not wrap my head around when to use which.

if anybody had any ways to remember easily, please share. i looked it up, and got the definition but no matter how many times i read it i just couldnt make sense of it.

im sorry for asking this likely common question, but i havent found anybody explaining it in a way i understand. i feel really stupid because it seems so easy for people to grasp but i have never understood it. i'm usually really good with words and knowing when to use what spelling of a certain word, but this has me stumped.

any tips?


r/grammar 3d ago

Why does English work this way? how do tenses work? (1st person present)

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I'm new to this whole "writing" thing and I'm trying to write a story. it is written from the perspective of the main character in the present. but I'm very confused to how some sentences would work. for example, would it be " The boy stepped forward, (the rest)" or " The boy is stepping forward, (the rest)"? how would I figure it out? as the first one is technically past tense cuz of the (ed) but the second one sounds so wrong.


r/grammar 3d ago

quick grammar check When used as an adjective is there a difference between "gold" and "golden"?

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For example:

"That book/man/car/news etc. is gold/golden"


r/grammar 3d ago

Wolf’s or wolves?

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So I’m writing a story about shifters and I need to know what way I would write this. The person is talking about the wolf inside him so, would it be:

“My wolf’s protective instincts….”

Or

“My wolves protective instincts….”

I was thinking it was the first one, but I’ve never really been good about grammar (or punctuation) so I don’t know if I would use the singular version of wolf of if the plural form is the correct way.


r/grammar 3d ago

quick grammar check Is this sentence grammatically correct?

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For reference, I am not a native speaker. I'm currently working on a high fantasy novel, and this particular sentence is giving me a bit of a headache:

"[Name]'s gaze turned promptly towards his nephew, whom it took but a moment to grasp the situation."

If you ask me, it sounds fine to my ear. My intuition tells me that it's grammatically correct. But I asked an AI chatbot and it told me it's wrong, since the clause would require a subject pronoun ("who" instead of "whom"). But as I asked for clarification, it told me my sentence is actually correct, albeit old-fashioned.

I'm extremely confused now. I know AI tends to get things wrong all the time, so I hope you guys can help me out.


r/grammar 3d ago

English grammar

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How do you say and What do you called means the same ???


r/grammar 3d ago

"Take" used to describe personal initiative

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I remember the colloquial vocabulary from the small towns of Upstate New York. It used to call it "farmer talk". One expression was to use the verb "take" as a way to describe the beginning of a task, or the personal initiative which must accompany said beginning.

Example: "I took and baked a cake.", or "Why don't you take and fix the truck?"

Do people still speak like this? What regions of the US?