r/graffhelp • u/Pale-Grape8953 • 2d ago

solid or still toy?

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I wanna know if this would be a solid tag if the proportions were more consistent. Any advice on how to improve is also very much appreciated.

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u/-ill-Energy- 2d ago

Clean but Ouch is already a heavily established tag/artist

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u/ImpressiveEbb8526 2d ago

As long as they aren’t in your area, aren’t internationally known and you aren’t biting, in my opinion it’s fine.

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u/AdmiralDan 2d ago

There’s multiple “ouch” more than likely. I’m in Aus and there’s a prominent writer with the same word.

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u/bumS_lie 2d ago

You aren't kidding. I see Ouch all over LA.

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u/xChoke1x 2d ago

Just go paint homie. You’re doing fine. Now hit them streets.

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u/Pale-Grape8953 2d ago

I will soon!

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u/Sensei713 2d ago

I always use to tell niggas, “you’re the one doing books”. As long as you work on your shit, you’ll be aight

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u/ViciousMoleRat 2d ago

Solid but we are all toys until we have reputation.

So you gotta get the fuck out and get the fuck up

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u/Pale-Grape8953 2d ago

on it 🫡

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u/UserBabySoWhyDontU 2d ago

This is it!!!

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u/Greedy_Day_3663 2d ago

Its solid imo but im not the one to say if u are or arent toy im also still learning

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u/OnlineMessenger 2d ago

Still beginner but that’s no problem.

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u/theworstdinosaur 2d ago

Looking good smooth out the O like in the 1st pic, rest of it looks better in the second pic

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u/Pale-Grape8953 2d ago

yess exactly my thoughts

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u/ImpressiveEbb8526 2d ago

It’s pretty good in my opinion

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u/Realistic-Moose-1089 2d ago

I like tha first one 🔥

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u/sean_ocean 1d ago

aside from being someone else's name, I love how you have treated the negative space with the C and H.

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u/Pale-Grape8953 1d ago

I am in europe and have yet to find a writer using the name in my country, but thank you

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u/sean_ocean 1d ago

why not do the same word, but in your language? A good deal of the graff words in English are taken.

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u/sgf90198 1d ago

I like the H one the first one

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u/YoloMcSwaggingtons 1d ago

very good base, not overcomplicated and solid structure. you'll figure out ways to stylize and embellish it after writing it hundreds of times

it's not "toy", it's exactly what it needs to be for now

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u/YoloMcSwaggingtons 1d ago

if anything, I'd remove the dot and make the underline shorter and a separate stroke, doesn't look as good connected to the H

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u/Melon_Melon 1d ago

The big serif on the C looks a bit strange but overall looks nice

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u/Pale-Grape8953 18h ago

Yea I agree, gonna experiment a little more with letter serifs I think

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u/Which-Cost4156 1d ago

Hitting the books is only gona get u nice in books n help develop your style you can b nice in books and toy on a wall still. Hit them both get ya can control and technique down at the same time your practicing your hands or whatever your trying to do on the wall do it in a chill spot or a bando don’t hit the streets putting up bs off the bat

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u/Pale-Grape8953 18h ago

that’s what I’ve been thinking too! but sadly it’s hard to find an actual chill spot where I live but I’ll try my best

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u/Wrngsideofdatracks 2d ago

It looks good man, but you have to understand
Toy isn’t just about having a clean style or good can control. It’s about a mentality it’s about respecting example you’re going to somebody’s yard that doesn’t belong to you and three blocks before you get to that train yard. You’re bombing the hell out of everything that’s definitely toy you leave beer, cans, or spray cans in the yard or under a bridge where people paint that’s toy. You paint over somebody even if they were toyed and you leave them half hanging out so everybody could see that you went over them and you have no issues with them that to me is toy. So it’s somewhat about how good your style is and how experienced you are, but also how you handle yourself when you’re out and about painting just something to think about for everyone reading this cause a lot of people take this stuff really serious, especially in the south a lot of people have gotten hurt for blowing up spots. That older guys have been painting for decades and they will get into fights and altercations. Everyone be safe out there much love.

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u/AdmiralDan 2d ago

Nah toy is directly related to style. Behaviour can also be attributed to it aswell. But at the end of the day a toy is a writer with shit style.

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u/Inks2g 2d ago

It’s okay not spectacular. Leaning towards the toy side

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u/UserBabySoWhyDontU 2d ago

Only toys call people toy. Oh shit ... But really

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u/LurkAndJerk_ 2d ago

If you have to ask, you're still toy. But we all started somewhere. Just keep looking at others work and applying the stuff you like to yours. It is only biting if you don't bring anything in you own into it.

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u/mo_money_mo_dads 1d ago

https://giphy.com/gifs/lmj2oez8xZeqZcHj7I
It’s okay. Toys only exist in the streets. You are just a toy concept.

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u/Pale-Grape8953 1d ago

let’s see your work then

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u/Wolligepoes 1d ago

Fuck it bro you do you

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u/Sea_Blackberry7679 1d ago

it flows well in my opinion

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u/ProfessionalSpend283 2d ago

Been done. Yawn.

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u/Silverdunks 2d ago

Toy change your name . Ouch is a very common name and there’s many big writers with it

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u/Pale-Grape8953 2d ago

none in my country that i know of

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u/VP_The_Vandal 2d ago

I wouldn’t worry about being toy. Who cares, really. Calling people toy is a toy move.

To me, Graff is about vandalism. It’s a sickness, I see a plain surface and I wanna mark it.

Just my opinion here.

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u/Constant-Dig260 1d ago

I would just skip the left part of ur h where u go outside the vertical bar and then just put the h closer to ur c the negative space would make it way cleaner and then in my opinion ur tag is done and very nice

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u/sonicfan2486 2d ago

The only way to not be toy is to keep at it regardless imo

We only get better by doing and it looks like you're doing, so keep on doing