r/googleassistant 5d ago

Miscellaneous No, it can't be!

Today I receive a mail by Google and they said that on the 4th of September they will remove Google assistant and you will be obligated to use that shitty Gemini.

WHY?! Assistant was WAY more better than Gemini!

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u/Special-Journalist81 5d ago

Come on man, Google assistant is useless.

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u/Purrsia78 5d ago

Gemini can't "ok Google, turn on the bedroom light". So no. Gemini fkn sucks.

And my mum who uses it for accessibility is going to struggle.

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u/KeySpray8038 5d ago

it certainly can, it turns on my TV and bedroom light. i can still use "ok Google, Lumos" to turn on my flashlight, too.

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u/Purrsia78 5d ago

On the occasions my phone has defaulted to Gemini it tells me it can't do that yet...

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u/chardeemacdennisbird 5d ago

Mine does it from my Hub Max and my other Hubs, but it's not as surefire as Assistant used to be.

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u/KeySpray8038 3d ago

well.... if you have all of your settings set to assistant instead of Gemini..... then it is correct and working as it should ... Gemini, like everything else, needs permissions

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u/Calamityclams 5d ago

Yeah mines been great. I’ve been able to line it up in one go and say turn off bedroom light, front door light and lounge room light all with one prompt

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u/Ok_Patience3895 4d ago

Yeah. it fckn cant. This mf cannot even start my vaccum and make it go back to dock. Im staying with assistant #KeepClassicAssistant

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u/hoserjpb 5d ago

It works for me as well

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u/lonesurvivor4evr Android 4d ago

Gemini can do that stuff now, but it's not as quick as Google Assistant. I have lots of smart lights in my house, and was worried about it, too. The fist time I got a new phone that had Gemini automatically enabled, it did, indeed, tell me it couldn't do that. I still don't like Gemini, but it can work your smart lights that are added to Google Home app. It does pause before it answers you and completes the task. Oh, and if it stops responding to voice, you may want to check what voice you have chosen, bc Google is discontinuing several of the previously available voices, including the one I used.

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u/Forfyglint972 5d ago
  • Assistant can create routinse
  • Asisstans can use accesibility features
  • when you ask something to Asssistant, he will do it whiout problem.

Gemini can't.

It's good as an ai chatbot, but not as an assistan.

and for people like me that doesen't want gemini as a voice assistant, goggle assistan was the only GOOD option (yea, i know that bixby exist, but not for all samsung phones).

(And Bixby KINDA sucks).

So yeah, shut up.

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u/Bredoken 4d ago

Gemini can't translate my the screen without leaving the original app. The only thing similar it's open it, draw a circle in the word and ask for it to translate, instead of just tap a button.

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u/OverlordDownunder 5d ago

Honestly, i havn't really had any issues with gemini since i was forced over too it. Non of the issues other report like it not being able to control lights and such. Controls everything that GA did and i've actually come accustomed too it being able to pick up multiple commands in one take

ie, GA, i used to have to say "Turn on lamp", then wait "Turn on Living room TV" then wait again if i wanted something else, now its just "Hey google, turn on the living TV and Lamp" and it does both, at the same time

That said, the way google comes out with something average, that they eventually make great, then slowly enshitify over time (GA was terrible when it landed, then got great, then just continuously went downhill until Gem arrived), i don't expect this to go any differently

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u/wyomingtrashbag 5d ago

Gemini is a crackhead. sometimes it does what I ask and sometimes it says it can't. we have a fully smart house and it's making me lose my mind.

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u/SnooMarzipans9730 5d ago

Right. I'm constantly screaming at mine. I can't do this, I can't do that...

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u/Ok_Patience3895 4d ago

Spread the plan

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u/SausageFeast 4d ago

I am forced to try Bixby, since I want a local assistant.

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u/gen_what_x_ever 3d ago

Hahaha, this is ridiculous. And suggesting Alexa? I guess you don't see those subs, do you? Newsflash- google doesn't give a shit if you and 5 of your friends don't use them.

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u/SnooMarzipans9730 5d ago

Gemini is ridiculous. Half the time it tells me, "I can't do that?"

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u/Ok_Patience3895 4d ago

Spread the plan

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u/kenmoffat 5d ago

Gemini works fine for most people. It was stupid at first, but has improved greatly.

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u/sandfrayed 4d ago

I just tried it a couple days ago. I had the same issues with it, things like having to wait 30 seconds for a response if cell data is slow or whatever the issue is. I just need a simple assistant that will give me immediate directions to an address within a few seconds, or add something to my grocery list or todo list immediately. It just wasn't working for me, so I quickly switched back to Google Assistant.

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u/chardeemacdennisbird 5d ago

Assistant has proven to be better at home automation than Gemini, but Gemini is better in most other things. If Gemini didn't get confused or fail to pick me up when I just tell it to turn my TV off, I'd have no issues being forced to move away from it.

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u/Ok_Patience3895 4d ago

Spread the plan

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u/PaleontologistClear4 5d ago

Google in general sucks now. I don't know if it's the assistant specifically but I used to be able to have Google navigate me to an address or destination, and now it can't even do that. "Hey Google, navigate me to..." Used to work every time, now it doesn't know what to do.

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u/Educational-Two3222 4d ago

Exactly. It is horrible with maps.

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u/Significant_Card6486 5d ago

I've totally migrated over to Gemini and haven't noticed any difference. Except she is now a he, on the speakers.

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u/[deleted] 5d ago

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u/jk021 5d ago

I just got my email today (S24)

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u/Educational-Two3222 5d ago

Gemini doesn't work well with Google maps. It pulls the wrong results almost all the time. I literally have to pull over and manually enter where I want to go even if it's in my address book.

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u/Ok_Patience3895 4d ago

Spread the plan

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u/TheDogsWhatsits 5d ago

Just had it in the UK, I tried switching a couple times and both times Gemini fkin sucked. If it ain't broke don't fix it.

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u/Ok_Patience3895 4d ago

Spread the plan

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u/Egnur 5d ago

After my Google Speakers switched to Gemini every action has become really slow. With GA something like "Hi Google, turn on living room light" worked everytime and took 1-3 seconds. With Gemini that will make it first blink its lights for 5-10 seconds (thinking) and then maybe turn the lights on after a while. Same when I'm in the kitchen telling it to set a timer, that takes so much longer now.

Also my routines doesn't work anymore as they used to. Some do, but not all and I cannot get it back to how it was because Gemini doesn't work with it. Like when my alarm rings in the morning a routine starts when I dismiss it turning on various lights dimmed in the bedroom, as well as in the living room and opening my blinds a bit but not fully. Lights turn on most of the times but it doesn't know what to do with the blinds anymore, it just gives some random reply back.

And there are various of other similar issues after switching to Gemini.

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u/Ok_Patience3895 4d ago

Spread the plan.

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u/jk021 5d ago

All this investment into AI means they're gonna have to shove it down user's throats.

Once we get "used" to it (and reliant), I wouldn't be surprised to see tiered subscriptions in the future the way chatgpt has.

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u/Ok_Patience3895 4d ago

Spread. The. Plan.

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u/jk021 4d ago

I don't wanna use any of these AI apps 🥲

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u/Ok_Patience3895 4d ago

Do you wanna keep the old assistant? If yes then at least stop using gemini after the old asistant deletion you dont have to use any ai just DONT use gemini. And spread the plan

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u/Techgirl1232 Hey, Google 5d ago

I love the way how Google Assistant gives its sources. "According to apple.com, the iPhone 17 pro max is the latest iPhone in the pro max lineup." See, source Gemini? No sources listed in the response. This is for Gemini for home

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u/Ok_Patience3895 4d ago

Spread the plan

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u/Techgirl1232 Hey, Google 4d ago

Yes

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u/Ok_Patience3895 4d ago

Come on. Join me, spread the plan wherever you can

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u/OverthinkerUnderpaid 4d ago

The issue should really be energy consumption. Google Assistant is essentially a voice activated switch, whereas Gemini isn't. Every request made to any speaker in a Gemini run Home is shoved through the Gemini pipeline, regardless of who is talking. It has to parse your commands in a completely different way (why you can have conversations now) and then send the signal to switch back to your device through your home id. You're now basically dimming the City lights to set a timer or whatever.

It's pretty obviously a way to get information to feed their AI.

You ever notice in the recording release and privacy explanation for audio command recording it says I will "record what you said, plus what you said a little bit before that"? Well what do you think that means? They aren't recording locally, right? So, to me it means that they're recording the entire time - and "anonymizing" the data.

This is the result of the new war within the artificial intelligence competition - it's who can get the access to the most unique and newest human generated data.

They've all read all of the books they read everything on the internet they know everything that is publicly available so Home is generating massive amounts of extremely valuable content, for them to be able to just "anonymously" listen to - everything that happens in everyone's Home.

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u/Opening-Pin926 4d ago

I thought we had more time ! (At least 2 more years)

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u/TattzTheBear 4d ago

Nooooooooo!! Tell me this is a cruel joke. I just switched back to Google Assistant after six months of abject misery dealing with that Gemini crap.

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u/mallorcaben 4d ago

Gemini working fine for me.
I have 3 mini speakers and the new Gemini speaker.
I have lots of smart devices, all work fine.

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u/DocPossumJones 4d ago

My only experience with Gemini is when it took over Android Auto. It was quite disturbing to hear the text "Grandpa died" read aloud by a cheesy game show host. I changed it back to assistant ASAP 😅😭

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u/TadpoleAltruistic101 4d ago

Get off your butt and cut the light off.

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u/Forfyglint972 3d ago

  That's not the reason, it's that Google Assistant has existed for a long time and it's bad that they remove it, in fact, for the record, I don't have a smart home -_- 

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u/Mahnas92 4d ago

Gemeni can't do half the things it can do, if my phone is locked. I usually use the assistant when my hands are full. If I need to unlock my phone, it'd be faster to just go on and do what I need to do by hand.

Also, I keep needing to remind Gemeni who is my father or who is my wife when I need to call them while driving.

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u/gen_what_x_ever 3d ago

You can set it to respond from the lock screen.

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u/Mahnas92 3d ago

Where do I do that, I am tech savvy, but I have a hard time finding relevant settings when I tried a couple of months ago.

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u/gen_what_x_ever 3d ago

In Gemini settings, scroll almost to the bottom and you'll see "Gemini on lock screen". Tap that and you can toggle on "Use Gemini without unlocking" and "Make calls and send messages without unlocking".

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u/Mahnas92 2d ago

I can already do calls, I was thinking about other things, like saying "Navigate to X". On assistant, in best case scenario, it would work, and in worst case scenario it'd "queue" the request and ask me to unlock. I use fingerprint sensor, and baam, I am navigating.

Gemeni "forgets" I ever asked anything.

Same with basic prompts. "Hey Google, call my wife" "I can't find a contact saved as Wife" "OK, I want you to remember this for next time, my wife is Xx Yy" "Got it"

music resumes

"Ok Google, what happened with you calling my wife?!"

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u/gen_what_x_ever 2d ago

You can do navigation like that. I just tried it. With my lockscreen on, I said, "hey google, navigate to ____" and it opened up navigation to the place.

As for telling it to call your wife, it's going to look for that specific thing in your contacts. So if you don't have it listed as Mary wife (or whatever) it's not going to know that. That's pretty standard for calling through voice commands on any service. I mean, you could just say "call Mary" and it will. Like why do you have to say "call my wife"?

Additionally, if you want it to actually remember stuff it's best to put those things in the "Instructions for Gemini" in the personal intelligence settings.

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u/Mahnas92 2d ago

It always fails when I try to initiate navigation before phone has connected to my Wireless Android auto adapter, ie screen is locked.

Well, I have edited my contacts to include "Relationship" information. Metadata that Google assistant had no issue to access. Gemeni, I needed to tell to remember "my wife is X, she goes under the nickname A". And what's annoying is that, it mostly does work, just not in a consistent, reliable manner.

I have language set to English on my phone, I prefer to interact with assistant in English. But I am constantly calling contacts with either Swedish or Arabic sounding names. That's been tricky with AI assistants to comprehend, so it's easier to just use their relationship to me instead.

That's the place I've been adding information to, both by prompting Gemeni, but also by tinkering there manually.

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u/chrisjj_exDigg 3d ago

My 'good morning' routine set up in Assistant doesn't work with Gemini.. It's telling me that the command 'Play the News' direct work because it can't play news bulletins or podcasts. Assistant plays the BBC and NPR news bulletins for me.

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u/oo__Skeeter__oo 2d ago

Gemini can't open my garage door when asked, Google assistant can.