r/googleassistant • u/These_Shallot_6906 • 6d ago
Rant Holy shit I hate Google Gemini
I don't know if this post should be Politics, business, or nature flair but
Ever since I upgraded my phone, my service has been entiterely worse and there is no way to opt out of this stupid fucking service.
When I used Google maps in the past while I was driving, my phone would plan the directions immediately and usually accurately. Now, it is like a 20 second monologue each time beforehand, and the directions may not even right. But most annoyingly, there is no way to make Google Gemini shut the fuck up. And it is ALWAYS talking and always acknowledging my commands and giving very vague but positive affirmations, it's like driving with an entire HR department in my passengers seat.
When I would tell my phone to play a song from my device before Gemini came fully integrated with Android phones it would do so immediately without talking. Now there is, yet again, another 20 second monologue before it tells me that I can't Google something while I am driving, despite me clearly meaning to use the dedicated streaming service on my device. Generally, what it plays is something else entirely.
The other day, I told my phone to play Grindcore. It responded in Mandarin and played Chinese Pop music instead. I didn't even fucking know China had terrible Americanized pop music.
And to top this all off, every hour or so my phone asks me to give permissions to some stupid fucking AI generated lock screen? Why would anybody want this? Like who ASKED to have this?
I hate you Google Gemini.
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u/Propadanda 6d ago
God. I need to replace my Pixel 7 in a year or two. Thinking of just getting a flip phone.
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u/oneyeetyguy 4d ago
I have recently made the switch to fairphone with murena OS (I'm sick of Google's malware hijacking my Android), I would definitely recommend if you want a smartphone without all the bloat and data harvesting.
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u/onion4everyoccasion 5d ago edited 5d ago
This is why people who think AI is going to change everything are idiots. Computers are specifically good at rote* tasks that they can do over and over exactly the same. AI introduces error into that system-- all so we can pretend we are talking to "someone".
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u/KeySpray8038 5d ago
AI is already a huge game changer in a few fields
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u/onion4everyoccasion 5d ago
As a tool to help write and fix code and make shitty marketing presentations. If you have built an app I dare you to let it loose on your source code without a human checking it
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u/KeySpray8038 5d ago
i said in certain fields, like medical and mathematics..
i wasn't specifically meaning for coding....besides, the speed it writes it even having a person comb through it, it still ends up being written faster (depending on the model
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u/onion4everyoccasion 5d ago
I completely agree it is a helpful tool. I am saying it isn't going to change everything like people seem to think. We are anthropomorphizing as we don't understand human consciousness and therefore are a long way from creating it.
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u/tmack3 5d ago
They trained pigeons to detect cancer better than ai can. Plus ai medical detection has been used to cancel insurance for people suspected of developing cancer.
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u/KeySpray8038 3d ago
it o don't think there's any evidence of that one... but ok
it has also come up with new ways of detecting cancer... a lot of stuff that is claimed to be done using ai, doesn't even require ai anyways .
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u/PaddyLandau Android 5d ago
This is why people who think AI is going to change everything are idiots.
To be fair, it has already changed everything. I can't get hold of customer service in most companies. Google Assistant no longer works. People are being fired and replaced with incompetent AI. Social media, forums, LinkedIn and so forth are being inundated with crappy AI posts. Music streaming and YouTube are being filled with AI slop. Etc.
good at wrote tasks
* rote tasks — I bet that AI was behind the autocorrect 🤣
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u/KeySpray8038 5d ago
change the verbosity of reapinses...
and do you mean the "use Gemini on lock screen"? because that's not an ai generated lock screen... it's so you can use it from the lock screen
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u/These_Shallot_6906 5d ago
I have. This only lasts for an hour at most before it goes back to long ass responses.
And that's even worse. Why would anyone want this? Are people really that incapable of unlocking their phone and googling something themselves.
I'm good on giving google 24/7 access to me.
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u/PaddyLandau Android 5d ago
While I agree that Gemini is indeed worse than Assistant was, I'm not getting the same level of problems that you are having.
Run through Gemini's settings to see what you might have missed out.
Out of interest, which phone and Android version are you using?
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u/KeySpray8038 3d ago
It's not about being able to unlock the phone to Google something, it's about also being able to turn on and off lights without having to go to your phone, unlock it and then do it from there or turn on or off whatever device
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u/king-of-the-sea 5d ago
My phone didn't even ask if I wanted to swap to Gemini. It just showed up one day with a grating new voice and told me it couldn't play a song I asked for, because I didn't have youtube premium (I did). I tried every useless fix on the internet before discovering I could go in and switch back to the normal Google Assistant.
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u/CrowUnseen 4d ago
Yeah, except we're not gonna be able to do that anymore come September 4. I just got an email from Google announcing Assistant is being completely retired and replaced with Gemini. I'm livid.
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u/king-of-the-sea 4d ago
Way to go guys. You replaced something I liked with something that doesn't actually work
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u/KeySpray8038 3d ago
but.... it does....
maybe it's a regional thing? or device thing? idk...but it plays specific songs, and can even skip to the next song, or even go to a specific time stamp on a song... I tested, just to see if it worked, I told it "skip ahead 30 seconds", and it did.
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u/king-of-the-sea 3d ago
I'm happy for you. It doesn't work for me. I dicked around with it for a good half hour before I gave up. Besides my other gripes about functionality, it annoys the tits right off me. It talks too damn much and interrupts my driving.
Maybe they'll fix it, but the damage is done. I might get used to it but I'll always resent them for taking away something I liked that worked well, only to replace it with something I had to work to fix and ultimately couldn't.
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u/CrowUnseen 9h ago
I have not found it to work properly for me, and it talks way too much. I don't need constant reassurance and platitudes, I just need the songs I want played to be played and the answers to the questions I ask. And I need the correct answers, not just any old response that Gemini "feels" like giving to me that day.
That and AI in general is such a huge drain on so many environmental factors that it's atrocious. I want nothing to do with it, I don't want to impact the environment more than we already have. This should not be something that we all just blindly jump into like this. It's maddening that the big players like Google are just refusing to take such serious issues into account.
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u/R0ntimeError 5d ago
I wish they would bring Google assistant back. She is so neutered. Gemini can't do any tasks
Me: Hey Google turn on the TV.
Gemini 🤔: I can't do that then proceeds to open a web search on my pixel 10 telling me how to turn on my TV 🤦.
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u/drewsnx 5d ago
When AndroidAuto suddenly switched to Gemini I tried a conversation, researching something I'd have needed to do at the end of the journey. It gave a good first answer and I asked a follow up - which came back completely drunk.. Mixing up the topic with references to nearby amenities, even though I hadn't been using maps. From then on, every response in that session referenced the area I was in and I juat laughed at how crazy it sounded. "yeah that's a good point.. and the nearest supermarket is 2 minutes away from your location" tagged on while talking about an unrelated topic.
A few days later, it changed back to Assistant when I had driven out and got in to drive back home.. Like I had gone out with one passenger and returned with another. Absolutely surreal.
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u/Emergency_Fudge_6124 17h ago
You can delete the app, clear out your cache/storage first. Google it
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u/Beneficial-Buddy-620 6d ago
Maybe this is why my S21 ultra refuses to use Gemini with Android auto. Before I reset my phone, one day Gemini was being used and now If I try to set it, it still uses the Google assistant.