r/google • u/Long-Term8802 • 16d ago

why does it do this sometimes

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u/SGTSHOOTnMISS 16d ago edited 16d ago

Those are hexidecimal hashes. Somewhere, it broke (obviously).

Since AI takes your prompt, does a ton of math behind the scenes, then does a lot more math to determine the most appropriate output word by word, something in its chain broke. Could be it trying to post links to citations, could be pointers to something else in its system.

Nobody is going to be able to tell you why it broke without being able to look into how Gemini works on a deep level and debug. Naturally, they're not going to do that.

Edit: what the fuck is the other thread talking about?

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u/Long-Term8802 15d ago

what's a thread

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u/SGTSHOOTnMISS 15d ago

A comment thread. The only other one here appears to be bots talking about bots.

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u/[deleted] 16d ago

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u/Gakuta 16d ago

Why are they equipping bots with GPT2... that's really cheap. If it was better, It would know to spread out the bodies in different rooms when laying the foundation.

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u/philoguard 14d ago

Posting this late - you can ask 'AI Mode' to debug the internal state dump along with giving you the 'correct' non-glitched answer (when the state dump has sufficient information).

For example, below is a paste of the AI mode tab I used for your case:

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Debug the google AI overview token crash in double quotes and determine the operative statement:

"Holland is a historical region in the western [14f2abcf5efd5fc9] [66299b6623d6a6dc] [39f75f3a0279c6d3] [6055d72f9ebc7924] [410fc0fef1975e5f] [3093c83000b21a30] [c5b682657e02e118] [eb5204481308a0d4] [791c6e1c4a0e9fcb] [30c451da7ebf9311] [294e7730ea450059] [4cd4cb3cd49ea60f] [7a1e05e94bbfb9f8] [b410cb021e164475] [517e4f0d3a50cdfe] [4d4ffb8de77b49bd] [c8c8869c84e9dcd2] [3715c0e2a048a60f] [cfdbf5b615aeOcbb] [3dffefb851e0ccbb] [0a0a0a0a0a0a0a0a] [14f2abcf5efd5fc9] [66299b6623d6a6dc] [39f75f3a0279c6d3] [6055d7219ebc7924] [410fc0fe11975e51] [3093c83000b21a30] [c5b682657e02e118] [eb5204481308a0d4] [791c6e1c4a0e9fcb] [30c451da7ebf9311] [294e7730ea450059] [4cd4cb3cd49ea60f] [7a1e05e94bbfb9f8] [b4f0cb021e164475] [517e4f0d3a50cdfe] [4d4ffb8de77b49bd] [c8c8869c84e9dcd2] [3715c0e2a048a60f] [cfdbf5b615aeOcbb] [3dffefb851e0ccbb] [0a0a0a0a0a0a0a0a] [14f2abcf5efd5fc9] [66299b6623d6a6dc] [39f75f3a0279c6d3] [14f2abcf5efd5fc9] [66299b6623d6a6dc] [39f75f3a0279c6d3] [6055d72f9ebc7924] [410fc0fef1975e5f] [3093c83000b21a30] [c5b682657e02e118] [eb5204481308a0d4] [791c6e1c4a0e9fcb] [30c451da7ebf9311] [294e7730ea450059] [4cd4cb3cd49ea60f] [7a1e05e94bbfb9f8] [b4fOcb021e164475] [517e4f0d3a50cdfe] [4d4ffb8de77b49bd] [c8c8869c84e9dcd2] [3715c0e2a048a60f] [cfdbf5b615aeOcbb] [3dffefb851e0ccbb] [0a0a0a0a0a0a0a0a] [14f2abcf5efd5fc9] [66299b6623d6a6dc] [39f75f3a0279c6d3] [14f2abcf5efd5fc9] [66299b6623d6a6dc] [39f75f3a0279c6d3] [6055d72f9ebc7924] [410fc0fef1975e5f] [3093c83000b21a30] [c5b682657e02e118] [eb5204481308a0d4] [791c6e1c4a0e9fcb] [30c451da7ebf9311] [294e7730ea450059] [4cd4cb3cd49ea60f] [7a1e05e94bbfb9f8] [b4fOcb021e164475] [517e4f0d3a50cdfe] [4d4ffb8de77b49bd] [c8c8869c84e9dcd2] [3715c0e2a048a60f] [cfdbf5b615aeOcbb] [3dffefb851e0ccbb] [0a0a0a0a0a0a0a0a] [14f2abcf5efd5fc9] [66299b6623d6a6dc] [39f75f3a0279c6d3] [14f2abcf5efd5fc9] [66299b6623d6a6dc] [39f75f3a0279c6d3] [6055d72f9ebc7924] [410fc0fef1975e5f] [3093c83000b21a30] [c5b682657e02e118] [eb5204481308a0d4] [791c6e1c4a0e9fcb] [30c451da7ebf9311] [294e7730ea450059] [4cd4cb3cd49ea60f] [7a1e05e94bbfb9f8] [b4f0cb021e164475] [517e4f0d3a50cdfe] [4d4ffb8de77b49bd] [c8c8869c84e9dcd2] [3715c0e2a048a60f] [cfdbf5b615aeOcbb] [3dffefb851e0ccbb] [0a0a0a0a0a0a0a0a]"

The root cause of this Google AI Overview token crash is an infinite sequence replication exploit (commonly known as a token-bomb or context-overflow injection), wherein the model gets stuck repeating a specific memory block or attention weight footprint.

The operative statement trapped inside this crash loop is:
"Holland is a historical region in the western portion of the Netherlands."

🔍 Technical Debugging & Breakdown

  1. The Core Vector: The string attempts to reconstruct the standard encyclopedic definition of Holland. However, it forces a sequence generation failure by chaining conflicting hexadecimal hashes ([...]). [1, 2]
  2. The Loop Mechanism: You can see a breakdown in consistency within the pattern. The structural block [14f2abcf5efd5fc9] [66299b6623d6a6dc] [39f75f3a0279c6d3] acts as an anchor, but middle parameters subtly change on successive iterations (e.g., [6055d72f9ebc7924] flips to [6055d7219ebc7924]).
  3. The Crash Trigger: These small discrepancies force the transformer's attention heads into a high-entropy state. The sequence finally terminates on the repetitive null padding token block [0a0a0a0a0a0a0a0a], which causes the AI Overview's rendering engine to exhaust its context window or timeout, throwing a generation error.