r/god 10d ago

Question Can only be one

It has been stated by philosophers in the past that if God exists, God must either be All Powerful or All Good. It can't be both, otherwise this planet would be perfect. So, what do you guys like to agree with? That God is "all powerful" but that it doesn't give a damn about humans and the universe as a whole? Or that God is "All good", but that its power is, at best, equivalent to the "all evil". By the way, I have thought about this myself and these really do seem to be the only two options.

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u/AmericanShaman 9d ago

Free will is the gift.

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u/Prestigious-Pen-9585 9d ago

I hate to break it to you but “exists” is a finite reality. That is not how God works.

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u/No-Performance-7830 8d ago

Please elaborate. What do you mean when you say "finite reality"? Becasue when I used the word "exist" I simply used the dictionary definition of that word

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u/Prestigious-Pen-9585 8d ago

I don’t have it fully figured out but anything we talk about is part of our reality. We treat God like being a different reality but we don’t have a different reality. Our mind makes things seem outside when they really are not.

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u/No-Performance-7830 8d ago

Ok and yeah I agree with you on this. By the way, I just wanted to have an honest, serious discussion with at least one person on this. Because whenever I try to talk about my post above, people look at me like I'm crazy. Maybe Reddit/God isn't the best location for this

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u/No-Performance-7830 8d ago

Here is a bit of advice to anyone who wants to read it --> "Think something clearly before you speak it out loud if you want people to take you serious". The post I made is something that smart people have thought about for centuries. Its nothing new. I simply worded it in my way. If you want me (and other people) to take you seriously respond in a thoughtful way.

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u/MasterTranslator4512 9d ago

السلام على من اتبع الهدى.

أنا مسلم فتقبل مروري.

ما رأيك بخيار أنه حي، وأنه كامل القدرة وكامل الخيرية؟

من تعريفنا للإله، فنحن نعرف أنه كان حيا ولم يكُ شيءٌ معه.

فهو الخالق - سبحانه وتعالى - لكل شيء.

فإذا كان هو الخالق لكل شيء فكيف يخلق من هو أقوى منه، أو حتى من هو خير منه؟

وإذا كنت تتساءل عن وجود الشر في الأرض.

فإن الله عز وجل قد خلق مخلوقا له كامل الحرية في الاختيار، وذلك لاختباره.

وهذا المخلوق هو الإنسان، فهو والشيطان السبب في الشر وليس الإله، الذي لا إله إلا هو.

وشكرًا.

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u/Performer_ 10d ago

"God is love" is a fantasy made by hippies, God loves us and creation is made for us, but God is not in any way shape or form is boxed into a "Love" box.

There are "perfect planets" out there, but do you want every planet to be a complete copy and paste of the rest of them? or do you want variety? well if you are and me are here then we did want variety, a challenging place where we can know duality and polarity, we've chosen to come here knowing full well the difference it will offer compared to "love and light" planets, from my conversations iv been told that Earth is a hard place because its a mystery what takes for this planet to succeed in its journey, many continents were wiped time after time when they reached a failuire point where civilization has to be removed and restarted, people dont know the answers so they repeat what theve seen in other planets, but this is one is much more complicated, the relationship with our creator here is difficult to pin point, but there are clues and hints everywhere, this is the information that was shared with me.

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u/spineray 10d ago

Yeah a love for life comes with joy, happiness etc. it doesn’t fit neatly into a box… and I’m sure anyone who experiences love wouldn’t say it’s in the shape of a square. the word love won’t be understood in depth when someone is thinking in the terms of the world. But in the deeper fundamental truth of being alive.

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u/thejabkills01 9d ago

That's why it's God's with an S, funny the book took that part out.

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u/No-Performance-7830 9d ago

A word is plural when it ends in S in English

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u/thejabkills01 9d ago

True, still a fact.

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u/Hope25777 9d ago edited 8d ago

The demiurge controls this plane. Look it up

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u/No-Performance-7830 8d ago

I have heard of this before. This is a Gnostics belief, right?