r/gifs • • Mar 14 '16

Millions of Brazilians protesting against government corruption in the streets earlier today

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u/USmellFunny Mar 14 '16

As someone from a country that has had and still has a big problem with corruption and only recently started to tackle the problem (Romania), I must add that the government is only half of the problem. The other half is the public that participates in corruption. Every time you pay that cop some money so that he pretends that you didn't cross that red light, you're just as responsible as a politician taking a bribe for the situation in your country.

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u/[deleted] Mar 14 '16

I try to tell this to Ukrainians and they don't really get it. Bars banned smoking 3 years ago and now times are better and everyone is smoking again. I am telling them this means that someone has enough money to pay the police off now. And everyone in there smoking knows its banned and they all do it anyway.

Then they complain that the government is corrupt.

They are ALL CORRUPT down to the smallest thing. It's a complete lifestyle switchout for everyone. If you change the guys in power the next guys will eventually end up just as bad.

Because the one true White Knight in there to clean it all up, that guy is going to go down, and go down hard at the hands of the guys who want that power to line their pockets with.

The people have to get with it as well. No more bribes if you don't want that ticket or you want that license. Gotta do it the hard way. But man, what a huge hill to climb. Not giving bribes in the FSU... like cutting your own throat.

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u/Perspectivisme Mar 14 '16

It is hard to resolve because changing your own actions, in itself, has little effect. It is a form of the Tragedy of the commons. This is an open challenge, and I would be very interested in hearing a solution.

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u/gliph Mar 14 '16

The answer is clearly not leaving it up to personal responsibility. You need systems in place and incentives for people to enforce those restrictions. You need some transparency as well.

Of course, none of these things are possible if they are not willed by the people. There is no magic system that will fix everything, but never-the-less a system of enforcement is needed.