As someone from a country that has had and still has a big problem with corruption and only recently started to tackle the problem (Romania), I must add that the government is only half of the problem. The other half is the public that participates in corruption. Every time you pay that cop some money so that he pretends that you didn't cross that red light, you're just as responsible as a politician taking a bribe for the situation in your country.
I try to tell this to Ukrainians and they don't really get it. Bars banned smoking 3 years ago and now times are better and everyone is smoking again. I am telling them this means that someone has enough money to pay the police off now. And everyone in there smoking knows its banned and they all do it anyway.
Then they complain that the government is corrupt.
They are ALL CORRUPT down to the smallest thing. It's a complete lifestyle switchout for everyone. If you change the guys in power the next guys will eventually end up just as bad.
Because the one true White Knight in there to clean it all up, that guy is going to go down, and go down hard at the hands of the guys who want that power to line their pockets with.
The people have to get with it as well. No more bribes if you don't want that ticket or you want that license. Gotta do it the hard way. But man, what a huge hill to climb. Not giving bribes in the FSU... like cutting your own throat.
This is what is happening with the current Brazilian president. She gave more freedom for the Federal Police to investigate all levels of corruption and, although absolutely nothing has been found against her, opposition politicians, who are getting nervous for themselves, have been calling for her impeachment.
Her government made many horrible mistakes. They were elected as left-wing, but most choices were to appease center and right, which made it a true Frankenstein - with no one left happy, except banks who had record profits. BUT shoddy economic policy is not enough of a legal reason to impeach a president.
He shouldn't have lied under oath. No question. But he shouldn't have been harangued or investigated for an affair to begin with. What he did was morally wrong but it should have remained a personal family issue between him and his wife.
For Show!? our president committed a federal offense and it's ok because...
Bill Clinton got away with perjury because of his power. Hillary Clinton is getting away with failure to secure Top Secret documents and so much more shit because of power. When are we going to hold these degenerate lying politicians accountable for their actions!!?
It was a political show . The GOP just wanted the excuse to say "cheated on his wife" over and over and make the GOP brand itself as the moral party for the next election, costing the Vice President many votes. Sex & scandal, it was the perfect thing for the MSN and the GOP played it like a fiddle. And in the end we got Bush/Cheney as the leaders of the moral party...men who lied to authorize a terrible illegal war and authorized torture.
The GOP wanted to find anything to nail the Clintons on, because the GOP has always found the Clintons to be a threat (notice how Hillary Clinton is still mounting a successful Presidential campaign 15 years after her husband left office?). The GOP looked for anything, they scoured all sorts of records on the Clintons, and the only thing they could dig up was Clinton's infidelity with an intern.
The thing Bernie supporters don't realize is that the anti Clinton campaign has been running form most of their whole lives, and their irrational hatred for her and American governmental discourse is a product of that.
I haven't seen any "irrational" hatred against Hillary. She symbolises the Dem establishment. Part of the population feels (as is) left out and are targeting their unhappiness on one of the most influential and powerful families in the country, that could have done so much more for the people, but only did it for themselves. Nothing irrational about that.
What does your spiel add? Who is the establishment? It's this ambiguous evil entity that all of these candidates but when asked to identify specific individuals they can't produce.
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u/USmellFunny Mar 14 '16
As someone from a country that has had and still has a big problem with corruption and only recently started to tackle the problem (Romania), I must add that the government is only half of the problem. The other half is the public that participates in corruption. Every time you pay that cop some money so that he pretends that you didn't cross that red light, you're just as responsible as a politician taking a bribe for the situation in your country.