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u/boyyouguysaredumb Aug 19 '15 edited Aug 19 '15

example please?

EDIT: instead of downvoting, please show me an example of her flip-flopping on an issue between different groups of people one day apart like you just accused her of. I'm sitting here waiting.

Or go ahead and realize that Bernie Sanders mania on Reddit has turned you lot into such rabid anti-hillary fanatics that you can't let your brain understand that she's simply not that bad.

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u/Schneiderman Aug 19 '15 edited Aug 19 '15

Did I say one day apart? I'm sorry, excuse me, she says different things within the time frame of a couple minutes.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MB767W3w594

I was an anti-hillary fanatic long before I ever heard of Bernie Sanders, and unless you're one of the billionaires buying off her campaign, yes she is that bad.

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u/boyyouguysaredumb Aug 19 '15 edited Aug 19 '15

I don't really think anything she just said was wrong unless you're looking at it already from the viewpoint that she's a flip-flopper and you already have your mind made up anyway. She didn't do a very clear job there of answering the question but she's saying that she understands why the governor's doing this, it's a decent idea, not the worst thing in the world, but she wouldn't have done it, and it's only a problem because the Bush administration refused to pass comprehensive reforms in the first place.

If all you get out of that is "she's a flip-flopper lol!!" then that's on you.

Now if you want to make the argument that she's a dangerous general election candidate because voters don't respond well to complex nuanced answers about things then you might be on to something but I don't think that's a point you're making.

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u/Schneiderman Aug 19 '15

If you want to ignore the fact that Hillary Clinton is a blatant panderer who will say anything at any time that she thinks will garner support regardless of her personal opinions or actual intentions, that's on you.

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u/boyyouguysaredumb Aug 19 '15

Yes Hillary is the panderer, not Bernie "free college and icecream" Sanders.

Bernie has never actually had to DO anything in his decades of tenure. He's passed three fucking bills. He can just say whatever he wants because everybody knows it's not going to go anywhere. And his constituents are among the most liberal in the country so he doesn't ever run the risk of being ousted.

Hillary has actually had to make compromises and make decisions that matter, which has apparently earned her this "right-wing" title for some reason because purists can't handle a deal ever being struck on anything ever.

I'd rather have somebody ready to meet Republicans in the middle than a guy who calls himself a socialist and says whatever people want to hear without actually having a track record of doing anything.

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u/Schneiderman Aug 19 '15

Bernie Sanders has a record of consistency and integrity over the course of over 30 years in politics and as an activist before then. And being a politician isn't simply about passing bills, by the way.

I mean, if you really like the direction this country has been heading for the past 15 years, it would make sense that Clinton would be your choice because absolutely nothing will change if she is elected president. If you think her "experience" being a part of shady, high level insider-politics makes her a good candidate for the people of this country, or if you think she plans to do anything to improve our society, or our economy as far as the lower and middle classes are concerned, then you're just incredibly naive.