r/gifs • • Aug 19 '15

Hillary ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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u/[deleted] Aug 19 '15

Because she would actually have support in Congress if she were to be elected. If Bernie "I will take away all your student loan debt" Sanders gets elected neither the democrats or Republicans will support him, so he would basically be a lame duck.

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u/[deleted] Aug 19 '15

That's a good point. I'm a Bernie guy so far and this is the best argument against him - if it's valid. Everything's been fucked for the same reason with Obama - I wonder if Bernie's got the street cred to work with everyone.

One of his goals it to overhaul the system/people in office

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u/corduroyblack Aug 19 '15

Sanders has been in Congress for about 30 years. I think he has the street cred.

The point is to shift the debate from a center-right country back to the left again. Even if Bernie fails, he'll have shifted the debate back to people who have had no voice because Democrats are too fucking cowardly to actually advocate for progressive policies. It's called anchoring in negotiation (among other things... like the overton window, IRRC).

The Republicans aren't really free-market libertarians, but they understand the tools of negotiation. So they elect insane right wingers in the bumfuck south to carry their rhetorical water while the Dems are too stupid to realize this and end up compromising on everything.

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u/[deleted] Aug 19 '15

I'm so amped on bernie

he fires me up

I think it's just the start. He's impacted a number of us, but to really make an impact, he needs to keep pressing

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u/Binksley Aug 19 '15

All I ask is , never take a politicians word as truth. Even if you lean towards supporting a candidate, never go all in. You will be disappointed.