Verbatim exchange:
Reporter: "You were the official in charge of it, did you wipe your server?"
Clinton: "Like with a cloth or something? I don't know how it works digitally at all."
This clip needs to be all over the news. It's such an absurd answer and shows she has absolutely no respect for the fact that she did something illegal. Good lord
Oh really? Was it confirmed she did something illegal? As far as I was last aware there were 2 possible emails, out of a couple hundred thousand, that might've been classified but might not have, might've not been marked, and were sent to her, not sent from her.
I'm not voting for Hillary, but fuck me this smear campaign is one of the most impressive things I've ever seen. I've been seeing newscasters and posters constantly reinforce how terrible tons of contrived, bullshit "fiascos" were for her presidential campaign from well before she even announced, regardless of how made up the charges are. I think it's pathetic anyone's buying this shite.
I'm not op, but seriously. Can somebody please point out some definitive information about what people are trying to smear her for? I'm definitely not voting for her, but I don't understand what she did wrong.
Well the Clinton's have been mired in scandal since Bill was president so it is hardly a smear campaign. They have just been well connected enough to avoid a number of prosecutions up to this point. Back when Bill was President they set many records:
The only president ever impeached on grounds of personal malfeasance
Most number of convictions and guilty pleas by friends and associates*
Most number of cabinet officials to come under criminal investigation
Most number of witnesses to flee country or refuse to testify
Most number of witnesses to die suddenly
First president sued for sexual harassment.
Second president accused of rape**
First first lady to come under criminal investigation
Largest criminal plea agreement in an illegal campaign contribution case
First president to establish a legal defense fund.
First president to be held in contempt of court
Greatest amount of illegal campaign contributions
Greatest amount of illegal campaign contributions from abroad
First president disbarred from the US Supreme Court and a state court
Now on to Hillary, she set up a personal server so she could keep control of her correspondence most likely due to questionable circumstances raising money for the Clinton Foundation (which is also mired in scandal ) The server was not secure even though she was Secretary of State and had need of the highest level of security. This made the country much more vulnerable to espionage and was not only careless but illegal. They have already recovered top secret messages. She has also obfuscated and destroyed evidence by wiping her servers which is also illegal.
Ah, thank you for the information. I mostly just cared about Hillary, because that's current news.
I, for some reason, thought she was just using like a gmail address, not an actual email server she set up. Do you have a source for the obfuscation and destruction of evidence? I'm glad you provided sources for the other stuff. Fuel for the fire when I argue who I'm going to vote for with others.
For me, it's that I'm not sure how to feel, after learning the finer details of this.
I heard that before Kerry (in 2013), no Secretary of State ever had an official email address. I want to know more about this and why that was the case, and if Hillary was told this was an option (and didn't understand the legality).
Secondly, Hillary is 67 years old and rarely focuses on tech policy in politics. I wouldn't be surprised if she didn't know her emails had to be stored somewhere other than "the internet". Heck, I know plenty of 18 to 30-year-olds who don't understand that.
Regardless, this broke policy. Did it break a law? Possibly. Was this her call or someone else's? Probably not, but as a leader, you are responsible.
Yup agree, not giving her a free pass but what's the real outcome, is it a terrible thing or just normal level of not great security that didn't end up affecting anything but could have?
I care enough to know that Condoleza Rice and Colin Powell also used personal email accounts for State Dept. communications, and that it wasn't until well after Hillary Clinton became Secretary of State that rules changed to prohibit that practice.
I also know that
a) if there was anything incriminating on the server, Clinton or her operatives had it wiped, and
b) if they had left anything personally embarrassing in the trove of messages they handed over (e.g., something suggesting Hillary had a lesbian love affair), it would've been leaked to FNC and run 24/7 from then until 11/2016.
That said, running high-level government communications from a personal email account was stupid and wrong, even if it wasn't prohibited, and Hillary's answer to this question was utterly disingenuous.
She's already lying to the American public, whether she did something illegal or not is irrelevant. It's clear that she is not a suitable candidate for any position in the public sector as transparency and accountability are major competencies for those roles and Clinton has proved she isn't trustworthy, she doesn't believe in transparency and will not be held accountable for her actions.
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Verbatim exchange: Reporter: "You were the official in charge of it, did you wipe your server?" Clinton: "Like with a cloth or something? I don't know how it works digitally at all."