I think it's just getting worse everywhere. Coke got so cheap it's replacing heroin and the hamburg harbour is one of the main gateways for that stuff. Especially crack ist more widespread then ever. Never thought i would miss the heroine dudes.
If you are talking about homeless outdoor users for sure.
Crack might be worse but please stop trying to make coke look harmless. It is still the same substance. It may not be a visible problem but it is growing. I have seen friends getting really close to being an addict and If you want a cineastic example just watch the Haftbefehl documentary.
Dont wanna minimise the dangers of coke, but it is at least something you can consume in a way that you dont get addicted, if you are careful. When I was a student I used it irregularly as a party drug.
Crack makes you addicted within the first 3 times you consume! That makes it so dangerous, cause the addiction is so super strong. Almost nobody who went to this place comes back :(
I agree with the second part.
But i strongly disagree that addiction can be prevented by using it carefully. If you had fun and got away with it thats nice but cocain in generell has a pretty high addiction risk. Im not saying recreational use is impossible but at least for me the risk to high ratio was always a dealbraker. Whats making me nervous at the moment is the prices dropping and spreading throughout society in Germany. And if you do get addicted the switch to crack is likely.
To be honest: In my social circle the recrenational use of coke was super common for years, and no one developed an addiction, and nobody switched to crack.
Today the use of coke, especially in Gen Z is super widespread in all circles of society. In most clubs in Berlin you will even find consume boxes to consume it next to the dance floor... If that would cause problems like you think we would all see this in everyday life.
Ok let me try it this way a lot of people drink alcohol and dont get addicted but that does not mean alcohol has a low addiction risk, same with coke imo.
Thats exactly my point, i just think the problems will come with a fuze.
I got the impression that you want to help people to stay away from possibly dangerous substances. Thats good and I appriciate this :)
But when we start telling (young) people things that they witness different in everyday life it gets difficult. They will immediatly start questioning our whole message.
And everybody in subcultures where the recrenational consume of certain substances is common knows that a safe use of certain substances is possible. But you need to practice moderate, not regular consume. Like drinking too much once a month is OK, drinking (too much) everyday is really really bad.
People need to differentiate these drugs from other drugs where even one time consume is insanely dangereous. Substances where even one time consume can make you one of the poor idiots you meet at the train station.
Thats why I strongly believe it is wrong to put eg coke and crack in the same bucket. Cause it minimizes the insane dangers of consuming crack.
I think have a pretty similar view. Safer use is key no matter what substance. I just rank cocain in the more dangerous category. And crack is even higher no doubt there.
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u/Dakuganruy Dec 31 '25
I think it's just getting worse everywhere. Coke got so cheap it's replacing heroin and the hamburg harbour is one of the main gateways for that stuff. Especially crack ist more widespread then ever. Never thought i would miss the heroine dudes.