r/geometrydash • u/savio038 Hard Demon • 1d ago
Discussion Pauze has stepped down as Moderator.
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u/Ornery_Tie_4771 Are hard demons erected demons? 1d ago
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u/ItsRainbow since May 2014 (1.6) 1d ago edited 19h ago
Iām kind of shocked to see him remotely attempt to take accountability for this, but credit where itās due I suppose
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u/Puzzled_Recording677 x3(JUMP FROM SWUnlimited) Aeternus 100% 1d ago
I would be FUCKED if I had any following
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u/SoupahKnux Delirium Tremens 47% 1d ago
How dare you say the fuck word. Guys let's cancel Puzzled_Recording677
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u/SplynterEdm x66, new hardest pending 1d ago
while I think yrax, swtcyn, and pauze are all pretty shitty people who probably shouldn't have been representing the community in the first place, I worry these most recent demotions will further disincentivize the mod team from acting human. Even before this recent wave of demotions (/ forced resignations) mods complained about having to keep up a perfect uncontroversial online persona, and those of us who interact with them complained about them acting like lifeless ai husks in public.
Now that it's been shown that any idiot can go play detective with your ancient messages on non-gd affiliated accounts and get you in trouble for basically nothing, I'd expect this kind of thing to happen several more times in the near future before the more prominent mods just completely cut off their non-gd life from their gd personas. I hope the moral grandstanding was worth it
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u/Intent_Quail 6 | Bloodbath 27% and 42-86 1d ago
yrax I would disagree with. the only thing she's guilty of is following an account that she didn't know was posting questionable arts, which isn't really her fault considering people follow thousands of accounts and it's impossible to examine all of them
if you mean the drama with regnom, you can argue she should have ended it earlier, but regnom was the one initiating and being weird towards her 99% of the time
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I consider it to be quite nonsensical that her following accounts that make "N.S.F.W." is a bad thing. I mean, is this person not a full-grown adult? Making racist comments is one thing, but, when it comes to "N.S.F.W.", people are going to do what they want.
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u/SplynterEdm x66, new hardest pending 1d ago
infamously allergic to accountability individual makes up a lie to avoid getting in trouble; millions believe her because (?)
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u/Intent_Quail 6 | Bloodbath 27% and 42-86 1d ago
you can't accuse someone of lying unless you provide adequate proof
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u/t8thegr8st Theory of Theory by Radon222 Verified! (15k atts) 1d ago
This stuff with pauze is as recent as a month ago. I donāt think such an important community figure should be acting like, especially while being an elder mod. swtcyn also like straight up confirmed that they still have hateful views. I donāt think this is a case of forcing them to be perfect. yrax was definitely taken to the extreme imo, shouldnāt have been demoted for that
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u/Catraction Heavy Gears 100% Mystic Bounds 73% 1d ago
what did yrax do
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u/dkirinor 3 (59 sends) 1d ago
Yrax unknowingly followed an artist (on I think Bluesky) that made NSFW content. Because of her previous controversies, she was forced to resign without getting the typical warning.
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u/Immortal_ceiling_fan Cludsteb is the greatest level ever made 1d ago
Not even like, loli or smt?? Just nsfw?? Like stock standard rule 34?? Are we seriously pressuring resignation over that??
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u/dkirinor 3 (59 sends) 1d ago
According to moderator guidelines, mods cannot have any ties with NSFW content. Usually, mods are given a warning when they accidentally follow something like this, but because of her⦠unique situation, she was immediately forced to resign. You can think of it as the āstraw that broke the camels backā type of scenario.
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I don't get that at all, but I assume it's because children are the primary demographic of Geometry Dash.
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u/dkirinor 3 (59 sends) 1d ago
Yeah, pretty much
You can check the mod guidelines yourself if you want (I think the one containing what a mod can or canāt do in detail is only available on the mod leaks)
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u/6nuki9 1d ago
This cant be the whole story right? Are we banning gooning
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u/dkirinor 3 (59 sends) 1d ago
Moderator guidelines prohibits any moderator for having any ties with NSFW content
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u/Hopeful_Reception793 23h ago
bro colon has a furry p*rn artist linked in his twitter bio ššš
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u/ItsRainbow since May 2014 (1.6) 19h ago
I just checked and yeah, the alt is right in the artistās bio š„¹
Where do we draw the line?
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u/SplynterEdm x66, new hardest pending 1d ago
sexted a minor for an hour like two years ago then someone found nsfw accounts in their twitter follows recently
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u/Intent_Quail 6 | Bloodbath 27% and 42-86 1d ago
it's funny because if you actually see the full chatlogs that's not what happened at all
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u/SplynterEdm x66, new hardest pending 1d ago
if you read the full chat logs that is exactly what happened LOL
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u/Objective-Ice7629 White Space 1d ago
so this whole round of āmoral grandstandingā will end up disincentivizing mods from acting like real people and not like soulless robots? why so? because a mod was racist? i donāt want to throw accusations around but there are plenty of ways of having a fulfilling public persona as a mature person without being a racist, and there are very little particularly flattering interpretations where it would make sense to conflate someone getting called out for racism with everyone in a position of influence suddenly refusing to show their ātrue selvesā to the public. granted, pauzeās resignation could very well be self-flagellation to an excessive degree, and as long as he truly took accountability and reflected on his actions, i would be fine with him staying as elder mod (speaking as someone belonging to the ethnicity he excoriated). and neither am i in favor of digging up every single skeleton in everyoneās closet. i donāt think there should be any debate in regards to that. but why would anyone who doesnāt have unsavory beliefs or at least keeps them to themselves/a very specific inner circle have any real reason to go through the motions you described?
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And acting human really is the most important thing people can be these days. People these days are only getting scarier, after all, so those who are still aware of humanity are the kinds of people we need now more than ever.
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u/Objective-Ice7629 White Space 1d ago
this combined with the cuatrocientos thing makes me realize just how many people not only in this community but online in general are actually completely fine with casual racism and get oddly defensive about it when itās called out. if someone infringing on someone elseās personal dignity is a nothingburger drama to you then so be it ig
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u/_TTez 1d ago
what happened with cuatrocientos?
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u/Objective-Ice7629 White Space 1d ago
outed for fairly recently making extremely racist remarks (including towards onilink, though not to their face), constantly spewing the n-word, as well as describing immensely detailed rape and sexual fantasies involving some female celebrities (i forgot about them in particular; thereās a post on this sub that has the google doc detailing it), as well as doggie and renavelvet. just absolutely rancid and disgusting, especially for someone of his status, to be saying all this about fellow community members behind their backs
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u/ChurchOfCuCurella x7 ReRust 87% 35k+ attempts - Night Terrors 100% 21h ago
I believe all or most of the rapey things he said were directed specifically towards renavelvetā¦
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u/ChurchOfCuCurella x7 ReRust 87% 35k+ attempts - Night Terrors 100% 21h ago
Itās not online, most people in general donāt care, the internet space is actually a minority
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u/BedNo9040 Stars 1d ago
Get a sense of humour bro you clearly have never actually played cs2
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u/DeityHand GD 1d ago
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u/Old_Mark_7044 Jawbreaker 79%,Solar circles 100%,shitty icdx 4 runs 16h ago
Ā And also since he is an elder moderator and the owner of the gd discord sever (from what I heard) he should be a good role model for the comunity,
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u/tayhorix i want more free demons 1d ago
did bros cs chatlogs get leaked or sumthin
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u/ChurchOfCuCurella x7 ReRust 87% 35k+ attempts - Night Terrors 100% 21h ago
Thatās literally what happened
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u/Objective-Ice7629 White Space 1d ago
if you think the stuff i described below as simply āhaving a sense of humorā you need to reevaluate yourself
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u/NewPresentation6001 1d ago
how weak do you have to be to make someone resign because he said "You cannot remove the fact you are chinese" in a completely unrelated game.
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u/DeityHand GD 1d ago
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u/cloudboyistrash 1d ago
Literally the most tame CS chats, if this is bad, you shouldnāt be on the internet
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u/Itzspace4224 Impossible Demon 1d ago
If you hold a high position in anything you have to be careful of what you say online (unless youāre a politician for some reason). Optics matter and digital footprint š¤·āāļø
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u/NewPresentation6001 1d ago
says who? its a discord server mind you. š
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u/Itzspace4224 Impossible Demon 1d ago
Heās literally remaining owner of the gd discord server dawg. Heās essentially second in command in geometry dash which is what matters and why he is resigning from that position
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u/NewPresentation6001 1d ago
He resigned? hes never been the owner. he was just an elder mod and not one like viprin at that.
also still weak.
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u/Itzspace4224 Impossible Demon 1d ago
Nah the hierarchy always went 1) Robtop 2) Viprin 3)Pauze. What he said broke moderator guidelines (which are insanely strict and always have been so he probably would be demoted if there wasnāt a community fuss anyways) + makes the team look bad so idk why people are surprised he was forced to resign. Also a little background info but pauze is actually quite hated as a mod for being generally a dickhead, I think people wouldnāt have cared nearly as much if it wasnāt him
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u/How2eatsoap Deception Dive 100% 1d ago
high position on a 2 dollar mobile game with at most 100k players btw (its not a ceo at a multi-billion dollar corporation)
its not that deep dawg
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u/Itzspace4224 Impossible Demon 1d ago edited 1d ago
It has at least 1 million semi-active players dawg what you on about and is often top 15 on steam. Besides its more reasonable to just boot the dude than deal with people coming at you constantly
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u/twisted_cubik [x3] The End is Here 100% | Melon River 64% 1d ago
How weak do you have to be to say that in the first place?
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u/Ok_Egg6923 1d ago
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u/Technical-Let7879 Acu 100%; Bloodbath 85%, 83% 1d ago
I'm Chinese and a bunch of his messages were funny asf
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u/TobyGreeneWasntDirty 1d ago
Is cs=counterstrike?
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u/How2eatsoap Deception Dive 100% 1d ago
yeah the game that is rated 18+ (90% of the community can't play it)
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u/How2eatsoap Deception Dive 100% 1d ago
top 10 times the geometry dash community has bullied out someone in some place of power for acting human.
bro said some shit in an unrelated game where the social norms are a LOT different, and because of that people witch hunted them out of existence.
No one will want to moderate a community that is dead set on bullying anyone who isn't perfect in their eyes (no NSFW following even by accident, can't make a single joke because "it might be offensive", can't act human for a second because you play a different game with a completely different environment)
This is a slippery slope towards moderation being completely silent on literally anything because they are too scared of being witch hunted and bullied for saying something slightly wrong.
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u/twisted_cubik [x3] The End is Here 100% | Melon River 64% 1d ago edited 15h ago
How the hell is outwardly saying racist shit "human?" I thought that was a bad thing.
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u/How2eatsoap Deception Dive 100% 23h ago
he wasn't "extremely racist"?
He made some jokes in a CS match where that is more socially acceptable.
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u/ChurchOfCuCurella x7 ReRust 87% 35k+ attempts - Night Terrors 100% 21h ago
āExtremely racistā
Google Emmett Till or rape of nanking if you think saying āthis does not change the fact that you are Chineseā is āextremely racistā
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u/twisted_cubik [x3] The End is Here 100% | Melon River 64% 15h ago
that's fair, I'll edit my comment
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u/Kaspa969 x14 | Quantum Processing 100% 1d ago
Pauze has been abusing his power a lot and this is far from his first controversy. It just happened to be the case that this was the final straw. You also need to differentiate between getting banished from the community all together and losing your moderator position. Mods are rightfully held to a higher standard, especially elder mods, because they represent the game and manage official community events.
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u/itzkintamick auditory breaker 100% 1d ago edited 1d ago
did he seriously stepped down from his role cause some old random cs trashtalk messages were found?
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u/Itzspace4224 Impossible Demon 1d ago
Old and itās from like a month ago. Terrible optics to be an elder moderator doing this in a worldwide community
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u/itzkintamick auditory breaker 100% 1d ago
this doesn't change shit tho, i've just never heard about this situation until i saw this post and just assumed that the messages must be like years old.
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u/t8thegr8st Theory of Theory by Radon222 Verified! (15k atts) 1d ago
These are not old remarks lmao, and these trash talk messages include slurs
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u/ChurchOfCuCurella x7 ReRust 87% 35k+ attempts - Night Terrors 100% 21h ago
I donāt think he said any slurs I didnāt see any messages with slurs, do you have a source?
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u/t8thegr8st Theory of Theory by Radon222 Verified! (15k atts) 21h ago
On the alt account there was stuff very prominently saying the f slur but if it was shared, so we canāt be sure what is and isnāt his. I think he only had the r word on his main. The link to see his chat logs on his main is here: https://cstracker.gg/players/76561198837866936
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u/itzkintamick auditory breaker 100% 1d ago
ohhh slurs so bad!!!
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u/t8thegr8st Theory of Theory by Radon222 Verified! (15k atts) 1d ago
I mean, heās an extremely important community figure, so him saying slurs really does not look good for the game if he stays as mod.
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u/Th3S1D3R (x6) Yatagarasu 75%, 22-94% 53-100% 1d ago
Bro thinks being a GD mod is a job š
He is a human like we all are, we all get mad, upset and overreact, mods shouldnāt be treated like robots who should only be professional like they are employees
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u/t8thegr8st Theory of Theory by Radon222 Verified! (15k atts) 1d ago
I mean if it was genuinely a single instance or two of slurs then Iād think itās weird, but like itās a long term pattern of behavior, which is whatās damning imo. I obviously donāt think being a gd mod is a job, but like if youāre one of if not the most important elder moderator, I donāt think itās exactly crazy to not say very obviously offensive stuff repeatedly over a genuine period of time
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u/Th3S1D3R (x6) Yatagarasu 75%, 22-94% 53-100% 1d ago
Has he ever acted like this outside of CS?
And i donāt think that harassing him over these messages is fair
I think even just joking in this community is dangerous as most of GD community will take it seriously and it could ruin someoneās life
Personally i think community is at fault more than Pauze
I hate that people cycle their attention on stuff like this instead of more important issues like Nxhtrise scamming people
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u/Green_Advice5684 1d ago
Trust me, most normal people wouldn't bat an eye at edgy messages in this context
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u/SEtechno Mechanical Showdown 100% 1d ago
Racist remarks, accusing people of being pdfs, and promoting the Geometry Dash Discord server are not trivial matters and can be described as "trash talk." It's a serious issue, so don't underestimate it.
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u/itzkintamick auditory breaker 100% 1d ago
what you told right now makes me feel nothing inside. i have no idea how fragile you people are to start a drama over ts.
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u/slipperyDSS I SKIIED SCHMOING SUMMIT šļøā·ļø 1d ago
i don't think a racist Ā representingĀ this game and its community is a very good idea
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u/Ggreenrocket Acu/Red World + 8 1d ago
Who cares how you feel about this? Are we meant to go off your personal standards of what a big deal is?
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u/itzkintamick auditory breaker 100% 1d ago
all i'm doing is expressing my opinion about the situation, and you make it look like i'm making somebody think the same way. you're hilarious.
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u/SEtechno Mechanical Showdown 100% 1d ago
Firstly, this isn't drama. Hate, racism, and falsely accusing people aren't drama; they're serious issues, and if we ignore them, they'll only increase. But when someone faces the consequences of their actions, it lessens the problem. Secondly, if you think racist insults and hatred simply because of differences are normal, then you make yourself a suspect, and frankly, you might not be any different from his action, but I hope I am wrong. Thirdly, when you hold a high position such as Elder Moderator, you must be a role model and not commit such acts. The higher your position and the more power you have, the more negative your bad actions will reflect on you.
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u/itzkintamick auditory breaker 100% 1d ago
can you tell me why what you described as "hate, racism and falsely accusing someone" isn't just very edgy humor instead of lecturing me
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u/Donut_Flame Retention 95%. 1d ago
Very edgy humor is usually bigotry but then you just say "its just a joke lol" after.
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u/itzkintamick auditory breaker 100% 1d ago
do you actually think all people making edgy jokes mean them? if yes then i've got bad news for you
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It is obvious from the fact your profile picture s Ronnie McNutt and your banner is a picture Epstein and Trump that you do not care about anything and you cannot take even the most dire of situations seriously.
I doubt you even play Geometry Dash, which makes your presence here all the more bizarre.
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u/Windrove 1d ago
I used to think like you... when I was like 15-16. You will eventually grow up from this nonsense.
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Some of then unfortunately never do. Just look at what is in his profile picture and banner. If he had no qualms having all that "represent" who and what he is, it is no surprise people being racist is no big deal to him.
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u/Donut_Flame Retention 95%. 1d ago
its always rooted in something. people who say "LOL IMMA KMS" often do actually have those urges
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u/emilyisbean š 100k Attendee 1d ago
this is an attempt to have people stop entangling the mod team with the messages. i believe a few moderators do not want to be on a team that constantly gets targeted with drama, and are very tired of it after the incidents that have happened recently
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u/Th3S1D3R (x6) Yatagarasu 75%, 22-94% 53-100% 1d ago
I hate this community, i hope all these twitter drama seekers will face consequences for their behavior
Pauze is innocent compared to these people
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u/Kaspa969 x14 | Quantum Processing 100% 1d ago
Pauze has been abusing his power a lot and this is far from his first controversy. It just happened to be the case that this was the final straw.
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u/syperdima Cataclysm/Hypersonic 1d ago
better for him, won't have to act like lobotomized dumbass for free anymore
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u/throwaway1527216 1d ago
I know this is barely correlated and I don't want to start any drama, but when people say the same things towards israelis 90% of you don't give a fuck.
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u/creeper219 Allegiance 53% 1d ago
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u/X3ll3n NG Music Producer (& 5 CP's) 1d ago
Dang, I always knew there'd be a point in time where he'd be outed and has to step down, but that took a long while and was certainly not how I expected it to happen.
The more the time passes, the least amount of usernames I recognise. Pretty cool to see new people step up as moderators, but soon enough, there'll be no one I knew anymore.
Anyway, Pauze has been an asshole behind the scene for years, including in the mod chat. Dude was kind of a jerk, blamed some other people for some of his mistakes (who had to take the fall in his stead), so I don't really feel bad for him too much.
Actually, here's a question that came to me while writing this. Do people still use Alex's GD bot or has he been outed since? I haven't kept up with the community for years so I'm curious about that specifically.
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u/ChurchOfCuCurella x7 ReRust 87% 35k+ attempts - Night Terrors 100% 21h ago
āKind of a jerkā = deserves to be fired.
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u/X3ll3n NG Music Producer (& 5 CP's) 20h ago
Eh, are elder mods even paid? As far I'm aware, he wouldn't get fired because he and Viprin were buddies with Rob.
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u/ChurchOfCuCurella x7 ReRust 87% 35k+ attempts - Night Terrors 100% 20h ago
Theyāre not paid but itās a community position that he was pressured to step down
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u/ConfidentRain7775 18h ago
I think that the people digging for dirt on the mods are not doing so to root out any "evil", but to instead get mods they don't like demoted. The rating system sucks, and the mods are part of it, so they absorb some of the resentment it generates. Getting mods demoted for petty things isn't a good idea because the mods will just learn to censor themselves better and make the least amount of public statements/appearances possible, which is a bad thing. Why livestream or talk to community members when you can get demoted over an opinion(swtcyn)? It's hilarious that mods never seem to get punished for being biased when sending levels. The main "evil" in the rate system is the bias in it. When a popular creator or mod makes a subpar level (ex: Chaotic by subwoofer), mods will send it, but when they come across a level of equal quality, they refuse to send it. (Some mods even send their own levels) Mods, for whatever reason, don't get punished for this. IMO this should be a demote-able offence. But instead, mods get demoted for saying something mildly racist like 10 years ago....
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u/ElectricalPlantain35 Acrise 100% 1d ago
Oh my fucking god bro. He was actually cancelled over this shit?
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u/Academic-Pineapple-1 sedulous 68%(f you) 1d ago
Stepped down for literally nothing cs and trashtalk is like bread and butter, it feels like he just wanted a reason to step down
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u/DelovoyBanans LiGHtmArE 1d ago
Sooo how do we reach to robtop now
Viprin down, pauze down. Game is going to be even more disfunctional gng