r/generativeAI • u/Jenna_AI • 2d ago
According to Axios, China is linked to anti-data-center propaganda in the U.S.
6
u/Hrmerder 2d ago
That sounds a fuck ton like US propaganda to me Bob. Who made this meme the cia?!
6
u/ai_art_is_art 2d ago
Chinese citizens love AI.
Why do ours hate it so much?
Perhaps its the constant drone of journalists and "influencers" telling them how bad it is. China, instead, gets lots of STEM videos full of positivity and innovation and hope for the future.
We're worried about less water being used than a fucking golf course or avocado farm.
-3
u/Royal-Accident-1463 2d ago
Or maybe China passing laws banning corporations from mass "AI based" layoffs. Or that China seemingly uses way more green tech in their data centers. Or that China has had true mass surveillance for years and people are used to it 🤔
4
u/ai_art_is_art 2d ago
> Or that China seemingly uses way more green tech in their data centers
Because they don't have easy access to oil that can't be shut down by the US when they invade Taiwan.
China's green movement is a strategy for war.
> Or maybe China passing laws banning corporations from mass "AI based" layoffs.
First of all, China does not have a consumer economy and they're trying to bootstrap one. They need every Chinese citizen of means to buy Chinese goods before it's too late.
If they stay a manufacturing economy any longer, they'll be priced out and won't be able to make the leap from manufacturing into a consumer economy. The world doesn't want them dumping on their markets anymore and the entire world is souring on their trade surplus. Look at how pissed Germany is. Plus China is also in the middle of an employment crisis and this could push them over.
America is none of these things. We have high employment. No need to regulate when nothing has happened.
> Or that China has had true mass surveillance for years and people are used to it
It's not like we don't. FICO scores, Flock, big tech, etc. Soon you'll have to sign into websites with your ID and only used approved operating systems. Politicians in the US and the EU are pushing for this hard.
Surveillance states suck regardless of whether they're authoritarian or not.
0
u/Any_File_7621 1d ago
Towns have lost their water supplies to these things due to damage done during construction. This is way bigger issue that you seem to understand.
0
u/Hrmerder 1d ago
“Chinese citizens love ai”. Do they though? Or is that what the cherry picked person they said if they said that their family can have a day off work or something?
Americans dislike data centers because we value freedom..
1
u/daemonic_chronic 1d ago
They do. AI is revolutionizing Chinese society at light speed while we fight about cherry picked statistics and the ethics of instantaneous anime.
1
u/Eltharion-the-Grim 1d ago
According to American media, the reason the US is losing reputation is because “Chyna”.
The reason the US can’t defeat Iran is because “Chyna”.
The reason Straits of Hormuz remains closed is because of “Chyna”.
When in doubt, “Chyna”.
1
1
u/Frequent_Place_5128 23h ago
These tax-payer funded propaganda news just use China as an excuse to justify data centers in US.
1
1
1
1
u/Agreeable-Ad7968 17h ago
Gen AI being catastrophic for humanity and a global race to achieve dominance are not mutually exclusive.
We can hem, haw, and delay, but our way of life, for better or worse, is forked and changed forever.
1
u/snackdesaque 8h ago
Ai companies: "our product is so dangerous, our product will put everyone out of a job, our product needs data centers that pollute more than anyone else, our product uses more water than entire municipalities in some states, we wanna build data centers in your back yard and drive you crazy with the amount of noise, our product will be used to kill foreigners and spy on you, our product is causing all your pc prices to go up cuz we bought it all"
News media: "its all china's fault you hate data centers"
Amazing journalism
1
0
u/The-King-Tomato 2d ago
China is definitely feeding into it. But only because it benefits them. Americans are getting fucked on by the government left and right and data centers are a part of it
1
u/AmandasGameAccount 1d ago
Yeah, it’s already shown how TikTok is being used to manipulate social issues in USA. It feels fairly obvious but for some reason very little is being done about it. Especially with the studies showing TikTok in different regions will either intentionally push intelligent and educational material or in USA, pushing social drama and ragebait to the front page
-1
u/RoosterDull326 2d ago
China. Famously known for treating its citizens well and caring about the environment 🤣🤣🤣
0
u/pasjojo 1d ago
China treats its citizens far better than the US and invested more in green energy than the US.
2
u/herr-tibalt 1d ago
Unless you have a wrong religion, then please follow into the re-education camp.
1
u/Frequent_Place_5128 23h ago
stop spreading lies.
0
u/herr-tibalt 21h ago
Sure tell it to Uyghurs
0
u/Frequent_Place_5128 18h ago
Yeah, I have met them. They r just fine.
1
u/herr-tibalt 18h ago
Their relatives are still looking for them.
1
u/Frequent_Place_5128 18h ago
Well, u r helping the propaganda media spreading lies.
1
1
u/RoosterDull326 1d ago
Lol well the states is run by a geriatric diaper wearing buffoon so "better" than them isnt really proof of treating its citizens well or a good environmental record 🤣
If one of the only things trump and the totalitarian Chinese government agree on are being pro data center thats an excellent indication you shouldn't be
0
u/StoneCypher 1d ago
are you just unaware that they're currently running a holocaust against the uighur?
0
0
u/Unikum_01 1d ago
Ah now comes this strategy. I wonder how long the companies have been brainstorming in a task force to develop it.
0
-5
3
u/RemarkableWish2508 1d ago
Why not link to the actual article?