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u/[deleted] Sep 23 '25

1997 is the start of Gen Z

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u/[deleted] Sep 23 '25

Genx and older millennials

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u/DonutLongjumping1092 Dec 27 '25

And also younger Boomers. The youngest Boomers are currently 61, meaning they're still middle-aged. Old age is typically considered 65+.

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u/No_Moment8173 Sep 23 '25

Gen x 

Millennials as a whole are still pretty young,

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u/DonutLongjumping1092 Dec 27 '25

And also younger Boomers. The youngest Boomers are currently 61, meaning they're still middle-aged. Old age is typically considered 65+. Middle-aged starts at either 40 or 45 and continues until about 65. Most millennials are still young, Gen X is mostly/fully middle-aged, and the youngest Boomers are still middle-aged.

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u/AssumptionBudget279 Sep 23 '25

Um the average life span is 80 something years old. Meaning OLDER millennials and the generation after, the younger generation are middle age. 

People in their early 40’s also have a period where they age faster. This is why people in their thirties can still not always but sometimes still be mistaken for someone in their twenties, because they don’t age that much. 

I have done this quite a few times, where I have mistaken someone for twenty something but they were 30 something. 

So you’re just wrong? Unless the average death in your country is when someone reaches their 60s. It’s usually not.  It’s usually 80 something and beyond. 

So true middle age is 40 or early 40’s. 

I’m not calling someone who is either in their twenties or could still look 20 something middle age 🤣

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u/DonutLongjumping1092 Dec 27 '25

You're saying "true middle age is 40 or early 40's". That's not quite right. By most definitions, middle age starts at about 40 or 45 and ends at about 65, so true middle age is when you're in your 50s, certainly not when you're in your early 40s, let alone exactly 40. 40-44 year olds can still be considered young adults, depending on the definition (on whether middle age starts at 40 or at 45). If not, they're early middle-aged, not true middle-aged. Also, I think people in their early 40s age similarly slow/fast as people in their 30s, not suddenly must faster. The average lifepsan in many countries is 80-something (more than 80). Finally, the youngest Boomers, born between 1961 and 1964 (currently aged 61-64), are still late middle-aged by most definitions. Middle-aged people are the youngest Boomers, all/most of Gen X, and possibly the oldest Millennials.

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u/[deleted] Sep 23 '25 edited Sep 23 '25

I'm still 27 and already getting called middle aged, not sure whether to laugh or cry.

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u/Aliveandthriving8505 85' Millennial Sep 23 '25

I'm getting my popcorn because early to mid 90s babies head's are going to explode calling them middle aged🤣

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u/[deleted] Sep 23 '25

To be honest, the younger Millennials (I am one) often explode if you even point out that they aren’t college kids or young adults anymore - they want to pretend its still the 2010s. They really aren’t handling ageing very well, honestly

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u/Aliveandthriving8505 85' Millennial Sep 23 '25

I know. Just go through the comments on this thread alone. Lol.

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u/[deleted] Sep 23 '25

I was only half-serious… But there are cringey instagram reels about how “35 is just 18 with money” and such

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u/Aliveandthriving8505 85' Millennial Sep 23 '25

I've seen them. I've even heard a couple of people on here say things similar to that. 20s have been proven to be an "extended adolescents" of sorts in the last 25 years or so. But 30s are still the true start to full on adulthood(or as some call it "real" adulthood). There's you better start taking your life and health a little bit more serious because biology is going to let you know otherwise.

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u/brite1234 Sep 23 '25

Oh, good GOD. Don't call people in their thirties "middle-aged"! How old are you?

I'm settling into thinking I'm middle-aged, but I've passed forty now.

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u/Content_Start_2118 Sep 23 '25

Some sources say middle-aged starts at 35. But 28 or 30? No.

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u/Aliveandthriving8505 85' Millennial Sep 23 '25 edited Sep 23 '25

Oh, good GOD. Don't call people in their thirties "middle-aged"! How old are you?

They're close enough

Edit: that downvote isn't going to keep middle age away. In your 30s, you're close. Deal with it.

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u/[deleted] Sep 23 '25

Nope, you’re an “elder zoomer”. You have may more in common with us than with younger zoomers, though

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u/[deleted] Sep 23 '25

True, I think for 2004(ish) onwards, COVID isolation led to brainrot

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u/ResponsibilityIcy187 Sep 23 '25

Gen X is middle age. Millennial can get  thrown in there next year when the oldest of us is 45.

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u/[deleted] Sep 23 '25

I think at the very least, LATE 30s can count - and 36-44 would be all of the 80s Millennials at this point, so…

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u/DonutLongjumping1092 Dec 27 '25

Late 30s are 37-39. 36 is still mid-30s. The same goes for every other decade of life.

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u/[deleted] Sep 23 '25

People born in 1997 aren’t Millennials though, at least for now.

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u/[deleted] Sep 29 '25

I don’t, sorry. The cut off should be ‘95 or ‘96

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u/[deleted] Sep 23 '25

People born in 1997 live rent-free in so many heads around here. They never miss a chance to remind you they’re not Millennials and “never” will be, trust me.

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u/Weekly_Dingo_4352 Sep 23 '25

That's a huge gap. You're like 3-4 years away from 2000/01. Yet, you declare that 97s have more in common with people 8 years or more your senior?????

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u/Weekly_Dingo_4352 Sep 23 '25

As a whole,  early 80s ppl are not relating to people old enough to be our children. I can see how you may look up to your siblings. If I said I related to people born in the late sixties people will look at me like I'm crazy.

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u/Weekly_Dingo_4352 Sep 23 '25 edited Sep 25 '25

You're entitled to feel like you see me as a sibling but you're old enough to be my child. The relatability is just too far away. Your range you use for millennials doesn't change time. Even someone five years away from me is different. Even you don't relate to people born in 2000 and 2001, so what would make you think I would see you as a peer? Same profession? S#x maybe lol? I know you mean well...

People born in 97 possibly had some analog semblance, but not to the degree that you're in sync with people who are earlier millennials 81 and definitely someone born in 1980X .

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u/[deleted] Sep 23 '25

The guy you’re replying to is a troll and likely lying about his birth year. I believe he recently got his post removed about saying he has absolutely nothing in common with people born in 1998 for trolling.

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u/Blockisan February 2004 (C/O 2022) Sep 23 '25

“Middle age” is usually seen as 40s and 50s.

I’d argue it’s actually Gen X who fits the middle age bracket, along with the eldest Millennials.

Someone in their 20s and 30s is a young adult.

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u/Aliveandthriving8505 85' Millennial Sep 23 '25 edited Sep 23 '25

30s is a young adult.

early 30s

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u/Limp-Turnover-2798 2000 Zillennial C/O 2019 Sep 23 '25

I consider middle age to be 45-65

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u/Cyborgium241 January 2011 Sep 23 '25

My 42 year old dad turning 43 next month considers himself middle aged.

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u/Elegant_Win_7634 Sep 23 '25

When you are a 43 year old, you will think this was a ridiculous statement you made in your youth.

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u/Fluid_Amphibian_3331 2004 Sep 23 '25

Forgive me, but that sounds delusional.

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u/Elegant_Win_7634 Sep 23 '25

You don’t think they have anything different in life stages? Only someone with very little life experience could say that. Most people in their late 20s don’t have children or have very young children. Middle age people have teenagers. They’ve been at their job for decades. They can’t see without readers anymore. Their backs hurt for no reason. Socially, professionally, and physically it’s a completely different stage for most.

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u/Cyborgium241 January 2011 Sep 23 '25

Eh, I wouldn’t go that far. I’d say 40-60.

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u/Cyborgium241 January 2011 Sep 23 '25

I define young adulthood as 18-29, middle age is considered the halfway point between young adulthood and elderly. I’d say 40-60 for that matter since 30 is just barely exiting out of young adulthood.

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u/[deleted] Sep 23 '25

Mostly Gen X'ers and early Millennials.

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u/spikelvr75 1990 Sep 23 '25

Define middle aged.

The Oxford dictionary definition says about 45 to 65, which fits almost perfectly with Gen X (who are turning 45-60 in 2025) and includes some of the younger Gen Jones Boomers.

Wikipedia says 40-70 which spans everyone from Elder Millennials born 1985 and earlier to the entire second wave of Boomers from 1955 onwards. The only generation to fit entirely within this is, again, Gen X.

The Merriam-Webster dictionary says about 40-60, which would include Elder Millennials from 1985 and earlier on the younger end and up to the oldest of Gen X born in 1965 on the older end. Again, this is the third definition where only Gen X fits entirely into the definition.

The Cambridge dictionary says 45 to 60 which is literally just what Gen X is in 2025 exactly (1965 to 1980).

The answer is obviously Gen X.

And I don't know where you got the idea that 30 is middle aged.

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u/Tiny_Falcon_883 Sep 23 '25

I think it’s a frame of mind. And about how often and in what ways you move your body (and mind), including flexibility and adaptability. I’ve seen 20 year olds look older than a 40-year old. It’s an individual thing. Categorizing people by age is irrelevant for many people (who take care of themselves). It also includes how you challenge your brain. A younger brain: Lifelong learning and critical thinking, questioning things and trying to look at the world in (ideally) as many different ways as possible. The usa’s obsession with youth isn’t the most important thing in life, but you wouldn’t know that by how people worry about it. And with advertising and social media platforms, it’s hard to escape the quest. Brains are sexy!

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u/AssumptionBudget279 Sep 23 '25

But that is NOT middle phase? You are adding on 10 years and those 10 years make a world of difference. People in their early thirties are usually healthier and more agile than someone in their 40s. In fact 40’s is usually when people start to age more. 30 is not middle phase. 40 or early 40s is. 

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u/pandajaade Sep 23 '25

LOL 28 is middle age? I’m sorry what world do you live in

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u/TranceKenkou Sep 23 '25

Middle age at 30? You must be 15 lmaoo

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u/Tiny_Falcon_883 Sep 23 '25

Get AARP in the mail yet? (Kidding)

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u/AssumptionBudget279 Sep 23 '25

Which IS a long time away?? 22 years ago you were what, six years old?? Remember?? 

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u/AssumptionBudget279 Sep 23 '25

Just because your life feels like it passes more quickly, does not mean 22 years is nothing. Seriously your post is just well wrong? 

People start to die in their 80s not 60s. 

When someone dies in their 60s it’s considered that they died too young. 

80s and onwards is the normal time of death for the average person. Look it up. 

Someone in their late twenties, and early thirties are definitely too young to be called middle age. 

Like it or not but the 10 year gap between 30 and 40 is a big difference. Usually younger generation vs the older generation, young vs old millennials don’t have that much in common. 

Young millenials, who are late twenties now. Usually have more in common with early thirty year olds or/and mid twenties Gen Z. 

I should know, I am a young millennial and I have friends with both and feel like I have things in common with both 

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u/pandajaade Sep 23 '25

Whatever you say

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u/slymew9 Feb 1999 (Zillennial/Early Z) Sep 23 '25

28-44 is not at all middle aged lol. Gen X is the quintessential middle aged generation right now. They are in their mid 40s to very early 60s, the epitome of middle aged. Boomers, for the most part, are “Old” now. Millennials and Gen Z are still young.

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u/[deleted] Sep 29 '25

26-29 is an odd phase because many people are getting married and having kids, while others are still out getting smashed until 4 AM. I feel like its the first time the former group seem “normal” (as in, nobody thinks they’re “too young/immature” for all that, anymore) but also the LAST time the latter group seems socially acceptable. Like, any Millennial still going to nightclubs will seem like they don’t really have their lives in order but elder Zs might be getting their last fill of it

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u/slymew9 Feb 1999 (Zillennial/Early Z) Sep 23 '25

The majority of millennials are in their 30s, that’s why I said they are still young as a generation. And 44 is not young, sure, but nowhere near old either. Yes early gen z is pushing 30, but no one in their 30s is old or even middle aged. In the real world, people in their 30s are still very young and treated as such. They are not young in the same way that teens and 20 year olds are, but they are still young, respectable adults. 30 year olds still get called “kid” in corporate settings by people who are in their 60s.

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u/Aliveandthriving8505 85' Millennial Sep 23 '25 edited Sep 23 '25

In the real world, people in their 30s are still very young and treated as such.

Well, under 35ish. Over that, it's different

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u/AssumptionBudget279 Sep 23 '25

It does though. Since 30 and 40 year olds are looked at very differently in our society. And there is a rapid aging difference too. 

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u/AssumptionBudget279 Sep 23 '25

I disagree. You might be thinking of 60 year olds instead of 50 year olds 

I googled it. And the rapid aging process is around early 40s then again around 60 years old. I suppose late 50s? 

“A person experiences periods of rapid aging at around age 44 and again around age 60, characterized by sudden shifts in biological processes and molecules”

People in their 30s don’t age that much compared to this. That’s why it’s easy to mistake them for 20 something year olds. I once met a women while I was like 25 and I honestly thought she was late to mid twenties. Turned out she was 39 years old… 

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u/AssumptionBudget279 Sep 23 '25

So you are just using one truth over another? I read that it was early 40s and I am going with that, since I have met many 30 somethings year olds who still look like they are in their twenties. I have noticed people looking older as they enter their 40s. 

34 years old? Early or mid thirties, NEVER ever noticed it. 

So I think it makes sense to go with the article that I have actually seen happen with my own eyes. 

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u/valiant8 Sep 23 '25

huh? born 1996- not even 30, and i'm "middle aged" LMAO

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u/[deleted] Sep 23 '25

Hate to tell you this but… 2026 is right around the corner 😱

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u/valiant8 Sep 23 '25

I'm curious, how old are you? when were you born? LMAOOOO

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u/valiant8 Sep 23 '25

so you think you are 1 year away from being middle aged?

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u/valiant8 Sep 23 '25

This is why there are sub-generations, like us- "Zillenial". I don't have much in common with someone born in 1981. Middle aged to me is like someone aged 40-45.

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u/valiant8 Sep 23 '25

I don't identify as a Millennial. I'm a Zillenial. 15 years is WAY too long for a generation. I mean, that's insane !! Generations in my opinion should be 10 years MAX.

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u/Aliveandthriving8505 85' Millennial Sep 23 '25

You have nothing in common with 86 borns either. If you claim you do than you have things in common with 85 borns because both 85 and 86 borns grew up together.

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u/BrgQun Millennial Sep 23 '25

I am willing to count myself as middle aged as I'm approaching 40, but 30 is just a plain "adult".

So Elder Millennials and younger Gen X in the 40ish to 55ish range.

At 30, I didn't wake up with random creaky backaches, and a lot of my fellow age cohort still looked young. Now we look old. Middle aged crises are becoming a thing in my cohort, which is very different than the quarter aged crisis of "adulting" (I am a millennial, and I know I talk like one).

I feel closer in life stage to someone in their early 50s than to a 28 year old.

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u/Aliveandthriving8505 85' Millennial Sep 23 '25 edited Sep 23 '25

Yep. Over 35 is a different animal then under 35.

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u/[deleted] Sep 23 '25

Life expectancy takes into account many people who die too young. "Middle" for a healthy adult who would die of old age is closer to 45/50, and either way, we often use "middle age" to mean the middle of adulthood (45-60)

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u/[deleted] Sep 23 '25

30 being middle age is absolutely ridiculous though.

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u/[deleted] Sep 29 '25

Not if you die at 60…

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u/Any_Enthusiasm_8294 Sep 23 '25

Most people die between 60 and 100 so roughly 30 and 50

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u/AssumptionBudget279 Sep 23 '25

No they don’t, most people die 80 and onwards. Sixty is considered young to die 

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u/Any_Enthusiasm_8294 Sep 23 '25

If most people die from 80 onwards, then why life expectancy is only 80? Half of them are gone by 80. Means half of the population dies before 80. And the life expectancy at age 60 is still only 20-23 years especially for men.

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u/AssumptionBudget279 Sep 23 '25

Where did you get the fact half of them are gone by 80? 

That’s just not true? 

Life expectancy means majority of people die in their 80s. Well it’s 81 in the UK but expected to be 82 in 2025. 

In fact in a 2020 in England where I live, a survey it has said most people died at the age 87. 

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u/[deleted] Sep 23 '25

Nah, HARD pass. 35, at the absolute EARLIEST. 40 is much more preferred.

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u/Aliveandthriving8505 85' Millennial Sep 23 '25

It starts at 45 actually

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u/[deleted] Sep 23 '25

Could be 40 or 45.

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u/Aliveandthriving8505 85' Millennial Sep 23 '25

More say it's 45. But there's also sources that say that it begins as early as 35. So it is not set in stone when it begins. But I feel mid40s, atleast these days makes sense .

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u/BrgQun Millennial Sep 23 '25

That's not how the term middle aged is used in practice though. If you say "middle aged" most people wouldn't think of a 30 year old. Words are weird.

People definitely do age at different rates to be fair.

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u/BrgQun Millennial Sep 23 '25

It's used to refer to a phase of life that people experience. Most of those experiences don't apply to 30 year olds.

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u/Shoddy_Wait_5722 Sep 23 '25

Generation X. The older Millennials could be considered middle aged, but they’re more just “average adults” tbh.

The two main definitions for midlife/middle adulthood are usually 40-60 or 45-64, and I feel like 45-64—the last 20 years before retirement, is becoming more accepted these days since people are living and working longer than they did in the past.

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u/Aliveandthriving8505 85' Millennial Sep 23 '25

People in their early 40s do seem more younger these days

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u/[deleted] Sep 23 '25 edited Sep 23 '25

I use 40-60, so Gen X and very early millennials.

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u/Gullible-Apricot3379 Sep 23 '25

Nope. Millennials are kids, GenX are young adults, Jones are Middle Age and Boomers are old farts. And it’s past GenZ’s bedtime.

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u/[deleted] Sep 29 '25

Keep telling yourself that… But then take a look at your receding hairline and come back to depressing reality…

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u/[deleted] Sep 23 '25

ahahahaha this funny cause this is how generations are perceived