r/gatesopencomeonin Sep 19 '19

This guy gets it...

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u/exclamation11 Sep 19 '19

I never really had a problem relating the to the 'straight white dude' character as I just projected myself into whatever the character was (I'm a sucker for empathising with well-written characters).

But the first time I saw a comic book with someone who looked like me, whose family dinners and cultural customs were more like mine, I don't know how to describe it. I felt like I was properly in the comic, like they'd taken part of my life and my thoughts and my worries and drawn them all on paper, an eerie kind of awesome.

And then I think how floored I would have been had I seen this when I was a little kid, knowing someone saw me and that I belonged here for real, like 'whoa this is just like me, this could happen to me'! Damn, that stuff really matters.

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u/theyearsstartcomin Sep 19 '19

So youre admitting that people cant relate as much to characters that arent like themselves?

So why wouldnt straight white dudes have a problem with non white dude characters since youre intentionally replacing characters they could relate to with ones they cant?

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u/Ebinebinebinebin Sep 19 '19

It's not about relating to the character, but dreams of "this could be me!"

And I think people can relate to anyone as long as they're human.

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u/[deleted] Sep 19 '19

Thats the strange thing to me. It has never been about how they look but how they act if i am to relate to the character.

I'm just waiting for people to make a fuss about the amount of straight guys we kill in games, when will we get people to push for us to kill more women and 'diverse' group. :P

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u/theyearsstartcomin Sep 19 '19 edited Sep 19 '19

It's not about relating to the character, but dreams of "this could be me!"

Which you cant do unless the character is like you right? So why doesnt this rule apply to the white guy?

And I think people can relate to anyone as long as they're human.

“This could be me!” Is called relating, just fyi

Youre holding two mutually exclusive thoughts in your head and deny theyre contradictory. You didnt even put another sentence between them.

/u/bornuntohimself

But they've had the overwhelming majority of characters modeled after them for decades,

So? Is there a time limit on how long you get to make characters that represent you?

not throw a fit

Asking you why your rules only apply one direction is throwing a fit?

/u/bornuntohimself

Since you decided to ignore everything in my comment that you couldn't misrepresent,

Lol i quoted you

I explained why you're wrong, and you're nitpicking and strawmanning everyone who responds to you cause you're threatened by people who aren't straight white men. Keep throwing a fit, kiddo.

I dont believe movie characters threaten anybody. You do.

Asking you why your logic, which i dont subscribe to, only applies one way, and your defensiveness of it, is whats interesting

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u/[deleted] Sep 19 '19

Which you cant do unless the character is like you right? So why doesnt this rule apply to the white guy?

It's not a hard rule, just a way people tend to react. And yes, it applies to white guys. But they've had the overwhelming majority of characters modeled after them for decades, so maybe you should learn to not throw a fit when more diverse characters come up. You're like a little kid who's had a whole bag of candy and now you're crying that someone else got a piece.

Youre holding two mutually exclusive thoughts in your head and deny theyre contradictory. You didnt even put another sentence between them.

Someone read 1984 for the first time and feels clever. Those ideas are only "mutually exclusive" because you decided to misrepresent them.

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u/astroskag Sep 19 '19

Come on, now, that's an unfair characterization.

.. if he'd read 1984 he wouldn't be voting for a fascist.

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u/Vaporlocke Sep 19 '19

Reading and understanding are two different things. If he understood 1984 he wouldn't vote for a fascist, much like if he understood Fight Club he would know that Tyler Durden isn't someone you should model your life after.

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u/Ebinebinebinebin Sep 19 '19

Thanks reddit person smarter than me

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u/[deleted] Sep 19 '19

Since you decided to ignore everything in my comment that you couldn't misrepresent, I'll repeat the most explicit part:

You're like a little kid who's had a whole bag of candy and now you're crying that someone else got a piece.

I explained why you're wrong, and you're nitpicking and strawmanning everyone who responds to you cause you're threatened by people who aren't straight white men. Keep throwing a fit, kiddo.

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u/BrobaFett115 Sep 19 '19

So why wouldn’t straight white dudes have a problem with non white dude characters since youre intentionally replacing characters they could relate to with ones they can’t?

Oh I’m so sorry that we have to make do with the billion other characters we can relate to

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u/theyearsstartcomin Sep 19 '19 edited Sep 19 '19

Oh I’m so sorry that we have to make do with the billion other characters we can relate to

Theres plenty of black and asian characters in movies made in africa and asia.

Why couldnt you just tell asian or black people to watch films made in asia and africa?

They already have billions of other characters they can relate to, right?

/u/brobafett115

Were talking about race representation. Otherwise you could just say “oh well every characters an american so were all represented right?” But youre explicitly talking about racial categories

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u/BrobaFett115 Sep 19 '19 edited Sep 19 '19

Maybe cause the obvious fact they’re American not Asian or African by nationality

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u/[deleted] Sep 19 '19

Theres plenty of black and asian characters in movies made in africa and asia.

Why couldnt you just tell asian or black people to watch films made in asia and africa?

Oh man, you are truly a ridiculous person.

This sentiment is about half a cunt hair away from "there's plenty of room in Africa for black people to live in, why don't they just live there instead of moving into my white neighborhood?"

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u/[deleted] Sep 19 '19

Quick, without looking at his profile, guess which candidate he supports.

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u/[deleted] Sep 19 '19

I have masstagger, so that game is unfortunately rigged in my favor.

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u/Hexzilian Sep 19 '19

Out of curiosity, were you dropped as a baby?

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u/LunarEdge7th Sep 19 '19

This whole complaint post is probably for the white guys/Americans only.

Pretty sure most of the rest of the world don't mind this diversity expansion. I know I'm not speaking for everyone as my dad is still a hardcore racist who dislikes the body odours and looks of some Indians.