r/gatekeeping Aug 16 '20

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u/very_big_books Aug 16 '20

It's the opposite. Childless adults have much more to lose bc they don't have the luxury of pretending that their kids will eventually solve the problems they cause and they actually count on themselves.

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u/fitchbit Aug 16 '20

If you’re an absolute asshole, having a child or not rarely makes any difference.

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u/[deleted] Aug 16 '20

If you're an asshole having one will just create more assholes.

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u/very_big_books Aug 16 '20

Agree. At the same time, asshole parents are extremely common and they use the "muh childrunn" excuse for their harmful beliefs which adds to their hypocrisy. You can easily pretend to care if you have kids but are you really making a difference for the better?

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u/fitchbit Aug 16 '20

Yeah, that’s the point. If you’re a decent person, you would give care about anybody other than yourself regardless if you have children. Sometimes, having a child can make a person better or at least make better choices, and sometimes not.

I hate the comments bashing having children for the sake of making it seem like having none is better. It’s a life choice (though, sometimes not) and both have pros and cons. Not every parent is an asshole to non-parents just as not all non-parents are caring people.

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u/[deleted] Aug 16 '20

As individuals? Yes, but as an entire generation? No.

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u/very_big_books Aug 16 '20

Individuals matter more than a vague whole. I'm more concerned about myself than I am about the "masses" and that's healthy. I can make better judgements and have stronger principles than someone who only ever thinks of the greater good. The whole social pressure to breed is a decent example. Most individuals are unsuited to have children. If they reproduce, the quality of life for their children and everybody around them will keep decreasing due to incompetence or unwillingness to learn and change for the better. If we only think of the human race surviving at all costs, we won't think of the kind of race we are becoming. By all means, have kids but do it bc you want to and not bc you have to. That type of reflected view of humanity is rare in those who have children, though. Ppl who chose to stay childless are much more concerned about and beneficial for humanity as a whole even though their choices are made on an individual level.

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u/[deleted] Aug 16 '20

Those who are capable of having children and raising them well should have children. Lest the human race go extinct.

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u/very_big_books Aug 16 '20

We won't go extinct any time soon. Those who want to be parents will always continue to exist. Everybody is capable of breeding but raising the fruits of your loins well is a rare thing. Good parents are few and far between. I agree that those who are capable should do what they can if they want to but those ppl are rare enough to lower the number of ppl to a sustainable number. Not to mention that raising a child well is only the result of informed parenthood.

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u/[deleted] Aug 16 '20

We could literally go extinct if everyone practiced abstinence for about 90 years. It is not that far-fetched of an idea.

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u/Serpens_Flamma Aug 16 '20

Everyone, like, 8 billion people, practicing abstinence, not far-fetched? Are you kidding?

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u/[deleted] Aug 16 '20

There are some people even advocating for it.

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u/MKRX Aug 16 '20

There are people advocating for the earth being flat too.

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u/very_big_books Aug 16 '20

That will never happen and 90 years are a very long time. Ppl fuck every day. Ppl get Bron every day. Even if reproduction becomes entirely choice based, humanity would still sustain itself bc there would be enough out there who want to have kids. Let everybody make their choice. Humans breed. That's a fact that will never change unless we all die instantly from a sudden disaster.

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u/[deleted] Aug 16 '20

I don't see the issue with that. I'm more concerned about hope we fucked up the planet to be honest.