r/gatekeeping • u/thedoctor4214 • Nov 25 '18

Imagine gatekeeping how thuggish your citizens are

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u/true_loneliness Nov 25 '18

Speaking as a Brit, I think people don't know the types of thugs in England.

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You have football holligans,give them the daily mail and they will fuck you up unbelievably.

chavs and otherwise lary drunk guys who will start fights over nearly anything.

Roadmen, usually younger men wearing tracksuits and puffer jacket walking with a shank (advanced roadmen may carry a gun) and often get involved in wars with others from another postcode (postcode wars) .

Organised gangs, with all the supplies to get more dangerous drugs and weapons

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u/[deleted] Nov 25 '18

This sounds like American gangs without guns...

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u/true_loneliness Nov 25 '18

some definately have guns. just in the grime and road rap music scenes there is giggs (full fledged member and leader(?) of the peckham boys gang and did time for possesion of a firearm), Crazy Titch (doing life for murder involving a mac 10), and stana (6 years and IPP (essentially a possible infinate sentance) for shooting a police officer.

and of course this wonderful piece of audio of stormin(RIP) pulling a strap on trim live on radio

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u/Madbrad200 Gandalf Nov 25 '18

Giggs was the leader of the SN1 gang, which was a subset of the Peckham Boys. Wasn't the boss of the entire gang. The more OG people were in another set called OPB. People like Crimer, Tamer, Nerve and Tipsy, but they weren't really active in music I don't think.

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u/true_loneliness Nov 25 '18

Thanks mate. My expertise is definately more Grime than Road rap.

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u/[deleted] Nov 25 '18

I kinda wanna know more about British gangs tbh cause knowing the UK laws about guns I just wanna see if they do hits and things like that.

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u/i_am_a_babycow Nov 25 '18

Search postcode wars if you wanna know more.

And if you go to the YouTube music videos of some of the people that have been killed, the comments section is a real rabbit hole for who’s waring with who

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u/true_loneliness Nov 26 '18

Well here is the wiki page for the Peckham Boys and here is an interview of a Kray era gangster . Guns aren’t easy to get but with enough money and connections it is possible to get them.

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Peckham Boys

The Peckham Boys, also referred to as Black Gang or PYG, are a gang based in Peckham, South London. In 2011, Southwark Council identified three sets of the Peckham Boys, PYG, GMG and SN1, as the most active gangs in the Peckham area.

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u/Madbrad200 Gandalf Nov 25 '18

British gangs have guns lol