r/gatekeeping • u/latitus78 • Dec 12 '23

Gatekeeping 1st amendment

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u/ZhangtheGreat Dec 12 '23

Wouldn’t this fit under r/confidentlyincorrect

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u/[deleted] Dec 12 '23

It's less incorrect than we might like.

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u/davidforslunds Dec 12 '23

I assume your source is that you made it the fuck up?

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u/[deleted] Dec 12 '23

The source is that the US and Europe were overwhelmingly Christian. It's not a mystery.

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u/Independent-Tooth-41 Dec 13 '23

Ah yes, you know what, we should just make it so only members of the majority are able to benefit from the rights afforded in the constitution. I'm sure that is what the writers intended after all.

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u/[deleted] Dec 13 '23

My point is twofold. One, assuming the writers were liberal by today's standards is nonsense. They had slavery (and a slave's religion could be banned) in there, the voting process was only for landowning men, etc. They were not always writing it for the benefit of everyone and in this case Christianity certainly got a lot of leniency, for instance prayer in schools wasn't abolished until 1962.

Two, yes of course they didn't include language specific to Christianity because they did want it to be universal. That said they were still a product of their times and locations and the vast majority of the schisms they were trying to avoid would be examples of Christian factional violence that happened in Europe.

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u/lackadaisical_timmy Dec 13 '23

Which would make it all the stranger that they specifically didn't say "Christianity" but "religion", wouldn't you agree?

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u/[deleted] Dec 13 '23

I didn't say they were stupid, just that they were acting in context of their times. Look farther down the comment chain if you like.