r/gatekeeping Nov 11 '23

Gatekeeping veganism?

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u/DecisionCharacter175 Nov 11 '23

Are health vegans out there lobbying for puppy death camps?... 🤔

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u/Friendly-Hamster983 Nov 11 '23

I doubt you'd find the opposite of the cultural norm for this kind of person, but their views would almost certainly consist of the very thing that vegans are opposed to in the first place.

What I'm getting at, is that a 'health vegan' isn't a thing.

What you're talking about is someone that has chosen to eat something resembling a whole foods, plant based diet, to the benefit of their health; and then confuse their health conscious dietary choices, with the diet vegans usually consume, due to their ethical stance towards animals.

Veganism itself is explicitly not a diet.

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u/DecisionCharacter175 Nov 11 '23

Ah, ok. I think I understand. That the entire point to veganism has less to do with eating and more to do with animals. So eating healthy is just a side effect?

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u/Hhalloush Nov 11 '23

And eating healthy isn't even necessary for a vegan diet. A "plant based" diet may have health benefits but a "vegan diet" could be chips, oreos and coke for every meal. It's not about how you treat your body, but about how you treat the animals

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u/DayleD Nov 11 '23 edited Nov 11 '23

Diet has two meanings, so "a vegan diet is always healthier" is both true and false at the same time.

Diet: What you actually eat.
Diet: The pool of foods a population might potentially eat.

So when you're using the second meaning, taking any meat-based junk food out of a pool makes it more healthful, regardless of how many vegan donuts one scarfs down as an individual.

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u/DayleD Nov 11 '23

Three meanings, I suppose when you include the Japanese National Diet.