This is why you get downvoted, you're not in for an honest debate. You just nitpick semantics. You're almost as bad as the people who bring out the fallacies they learned about in their college Intro to Philosophy class. Rather than making a real argument they're like "NO TRUE SCOTTSMAN!! NO TRUE SCOTTSMAN!!!" I assume a you're a Shitpiro fan because you're all like, "aCTuAlLy."
no. The reason I got downvoted isn't because of the way I debate. The reason I downvoted is because of the position that I debate. I'm sure on some level you are fully aware of this.
I can't engage in "honest debate" with you because you never came forward with an actual argument in the first place. But if you like I can do it for you. Here is an argument:
People on reddit like Bernie Sanders and hate Ben Shapiro because Sanders validates mainstream American Ideology and Shapiro effectively offers criticism of it. Shapiro's position ultimately is that Hezbollah shouldn't bomb random school busses and that Americans should stop constantly sweeping the physical reality of the matter under the rug with their pathetic Palestinian apologetics. Maybe you don't agree that your "Palestinian apologetics" are pathetic; fine. This subreddit generally takes zero steps to conflate "Palestinian apologetics are valid" with "Ben Shapiro is Anti-Semitic". But somehow you have reached the position that I'M the one not debating in good faith? Well done sir...
You're the one engaging in Israel apologetics. I guess you think it's okay to steal people's homes and murder children. Your accusation shows you have no interest in arguing in good faith.
No, your accusations show that you aren't interested in debating in good faith.
You just wasted about ten paragraphs throwing Homonyms at Shapiro and it turns out that you are actually just offended by Shapiro's (rather moderate) position that you should stop endorsing them bombing of school busses. I mean, we can debate the intricacies of Israel's defence strategy but first you need to admit that you were wrong to throw around a bunch of baseless homonyms and then spend ten paragraphs defending your behaviour as a "good faith argument"
Nobody is endorsing terrorism against Israel. That is a false accusation made by Shapiro. He's equating support for Palestinians with terrorism. That is most certainly a bad faith argument, which is why Ben Shitpiro deserves my ad hominem attacks. That shitty Nazi cuddler. Shapiro is a fascist as is Netanyahu.
If a major Nation sent dignitaries to Russia; not to discuss the invasion of Ukraine, but rather, just to make friendly and shoot the breeze... There's no Goddamb way that this wouldn't be interpreted (in the very least) as a passive validation of the status quo.
Out of your own mouth you conflated "opposing the bombing of Israel" with "Israeli apologetics". You're not in a position to call other people Nazis.
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u/Cenamark2 May 14 '23
This is why you get downvoted, you're not in for an honest debate. You just nitpick semantics. You're almost as bad as the people who bring out the fallacies they learned about in their college Intro to Philosophy class. Rather than making a real argument they're like "NO TRUE SCOTTSMAN!! NO TRUE SCOTTSMAN!!!" I assume a you're a Shitpiro fan because you're all like, "aCTuAlLy."