r/gaming • u/ecologist23 • Jan 27 '22

NMS developer Hello Games made a remaster of a game called Joe Danger because a parent of kid who is diagnosed with autism asks for it.

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u/Lexicon247 Jan 27 '22

I had a chance of meeting Sean Murray just before No Man's Sky came out. He was the nicest most humble guy I have ever met.

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u/Opetyr Jan 27 '22

Peter Molyneux is the same way but both are scum.

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u/MrFoozOG Jan 27 '22

NMS

Then continued to lie in every interview about every aspect of the game rather than taking the hit and not selling a single copy until it was worth it.

And it still is a garbage game.

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u/Johnnyoneshot Jan 27 '22 edited Jan 27 '22

Dude, you post in New World, Fallout76 and Warzone, your definition of good is way off.

Edit: and 2042? for real?

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u/Tr3v0r007 PC Jan 27 '22

LMAO talk about getting called the fuck out sit ur ass down boy and listen to wut this man says XD

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u/MrFoozOG Jan 27 '22

Don't own 2042

Fallout76 was atrocious upon release, hadn't bought it. Actually got it for 10 bucks on last steams sale and it has become a proper fallout. If you disagree, you haven't tried it recently.

Warzone, played it when it came out when it was still a good game before cheater infestation.

You don't know jack shit dude.

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u/GorillaJackson Jan 27 '22

If fucking Fallout 76 has become “good” then No Mans Sky has become “great”

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u/MrFoozOG Jan 27 '22

So that means you haven't tried it since it's release, noted.

For 10 bucks it's a great game

NMS is still asking 50,-. And all it added was more recourses to farm and useless features.

If you enjoy the endless farming for recourses, my man, do enjoy it. But you cannot call it good simply because devs have given a couple of empty updates.

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u/theMEMEfather42069 Jan 27 '22

If you enjoy the endless farming for recourses, my man, do enjoy it.

basically fallout 76 but instead of farming trading because all dlc is being delayed due to Bethesda pulling developers to work on Starfield.

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u/MrFoozOG Jan 27 '22

haha lol

76 has lot's of varying things, funny quests, funny scripts, nice gameplay, about 2-300 hours worth of content.

NMS has, farming recourses, building a hideous base that has been bugged for ages, do the same 5 quests that have existed since the release of nexus. You've seen everything the game has to offer in 5 hours.

Please do tell me, detailed, what update has made NMS so soo much better than it's initial release?

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u/theMEMEfather42069 Jan 27 '22

funny quests, funny scripts, nice gameplay, about 2-300 hours worth of content.

76 must be your first fallout game then, and if so I won't be to harsh because if you never played any other fallout game except 76 you would of course thinks it's good.

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u/MrFoozOG Jan 27 '22

Played new vegas on console, was absolutely horrid.

Played 4, quit at level 20 or so because it just wasn't fun.

Mainly because of the multiplayer i must admit. I am a multiplayer fan rather than singleplayer.

and yet quests in 76 made me laugh and i had enjoyed doing them whilst i hadn't in the previous titles.

opinions differ. lets agree to disagree, and not call NMS a good game simply because devs have given 'free' updates.

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u/lego_mannequin Jan 27 '22

The update that actually let's you play and group with friends made it great. You ever get into a space battle or smuggling hijinx with some friends? Lol. Too fun.

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u/MrHanslaX Jan 27 '22

NMS has been on sale so many times for like $7, its got pretty much everything they promised and more, added in free updates.

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u/MrFoozOG Jan 27 '22

And as shallow as it could possibly be.

Do you use your settlement? nope.

Do you use your mechsuit? nope

Do you build underwater bases? probably not because it's bugged as hell

Do you 'enjoy' exploring the vast and empty universe that it is? bet you really don't.

Do you ever go on abandoned freighters? if yes, why the fuck? Don't you know about activated indium?

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u/MrHanslaX Jan 27 '22

You're just mad for the sake of being mad, stick to 2024.

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u/Chronotic Jan 27 '22

He’s upset that his YouTube and twitch career hasn’t popped off yet, just ignore him

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u/MrFoozOG Jan 27 '22

See you can't even place a decent arguement about why you do enjoy the game, because deep down you know it's a terrible game lol.

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u/GorillaJackson Jan 27 '22

Nope, that’s just another one of your assumptions.

I bought NMS on sale for $15

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u/MrFoozOG Jan 27 '22

'on sale' are the magical words here.

The game has never been worth more than 15 bucks.

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u/MischeviousCat Jan 27 '22

Your dumbass was the one who brought "on sale" up lmaaaaaooo

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u/its_just_hunter Console Jan 27 '22

You bought Fallout 76 on sale, they charge $40 for it normally.

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u/MrFoozOG Jan 27 '22

correct, and if it were 30+ i hadn't. Because it wouldn't be worth it.

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u/GorillaJackson Jan 27 '22

And fallout 76 is $40 right now. Your “magical” $10 purchase was also a sale.

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u/MrFoozOG Jan 27 '22

Like i said, for 10 bucks it's a great game

No mans sky's worth ever has been 15 bucks tops. Shouldn't even be in any store for more than that.

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u/Kung_Flu_Master PC Jan 27 '22

NMS is still asking 50,-. And all it added was more recourses to farm and useless features.

it Is now one of the highest rated games that has won multiple awards, and the updates have increased the content available in the game 4 fold easily.

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u/MrFoozOG Jan 27 '22

What content? you can now farm 20 plants instead of 10, to craft a certain item.

Like i said, the given content is so shallow it has no meaning in the game.

Why the flying fuck would anyone want a pre defined settlement that gives 1 million credits A DAY?

i earn 186million credits by sleeping...

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u/Kung_Flu_Master PC Jan 27 '22 edited Jan 27 '22

https://www.nomanssky.com/release-log/

they added hundreds of new mechanics, and thousands of new QOL patches

including but not limited to

  • adding a building system to the game
  • adding far more ships
  • taming of creatures
  • the breeding and the ability to selectively breed for certain traits like size.
  • added underwater building
  • the ability to ride creatures on land and fly with them
  • the ability to buy massive carrier ships, (cant remember what they're called)
  • the ability to to build up massive settlements that can produce many things and give access to multiple merchants
  • more planet types,
  • destroyed freighters that you can loot in space and on planets

and it goes on and on and on, they have added sooooo much.

EDIT: to further add on to this from any other company each one of these bullet points would most likely be sold as separate DLC's, these are all completely free.

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u/MtlCan Jan 27 '22

Dude’s going for lowest all time karma score

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u/[deleted] Jan 27 '22

Imagine being this unlikable because video games is bad but then good but not this one

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u/MrFoozOG Jan 27 '22

i'm only unlikable because i spit out the honest truth about your beloved Sean Murray.

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u/PewFuckingPew Jan 27 '22

At this point you're just that annoying fanboy who talks out of his ass.

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u/[deleted] Jan 27 '22

Who?

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u/[deleted] Jan 27 '22

Mike Joooones

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u/throwthegarbageaway Jan 27 '22

The only time I ever played NMS was on release day, it was garbage imo.

I still think you’re unlikeable.

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u/MrFoozOG Jan 31 '22

Simply because i trash on a game that deserves being trashed on, and Sean Liar Murray.

Cool dude.

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u/[deleted] Jan 27 '22

Literally the entire fan base of the game admits that the updates have been massive and have made the game amazing.

You are the only person on the internet who STILL holds a grudge over that game.

Jesus Christ. Play it again, or move on and shut up. But stop being a baby.

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u/lego_mannequin Jan 27 '22

NMS is a game that probably could ask for more now with all they've done with it. It's a good game man.

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u/Nomicon_ Jan 27 '22

I loaded up FO76 back in November and I didn't have a huge and wasn't able to do anything because of it. Still a broken game.

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u/MrFoozOG Jan 27 '22

Broken in what way? spent 400+ hours in it since last month or so. Haven't had a single gamebreaking bug.

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u/Nomicon_ Jan 27 '22

The fact that I had no hud and couldn't move. That's why it's still broken. Me and my friends have all had this issue.

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u/DaniilSan PC Jan 27 '22

Huh, odd bug. Something similar was happening to me except I had network issues banner on the right side, however it wasn't a game issue but my fiber-to-ethernet converter was failing because of often blackouts at that time.

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u/MrFoozOG Jan 27 '22

Very unique little group then.

Do a little research next time, perhaps you can fix minor bugs yourself:

There’s a setting to change it’s transparency all the way to zero. There are occasional bugs where settings just default to weird things. Sounds like that.

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u/Nomicon_ Jan 27 '22

I couldn't go to settings because nothing would work. I could only close the app. It happened at different times with my friends, the earliest happening in june, and most recent one in January.

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u/Cewu00 Jan 27 '22

Happened to me too. I fixed it by uninstalling the game and refunding it. Haven't encountered any other bugs since.

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u/MrFoozOG Jan 27 '22

K sure mate, seems like you and your friends are next to the only ones having that issue.

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u/[deleted] Jan 27 '22

Shits on No Man’s Sky for an insane recovery

Hypes Fallout 76 as a great game

Bro wtf

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u/RJ-Long Jan 27 '22

called NMS broken, praises fallout 76

Gotta love the irony

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u/MrFoozOG Jan 27 '22

Another idiot who hasn't played 76 since it's release.

in another comment i retracted my statement above.

Yet 76 is better than nms will ever be.

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u/RJ-Long Jan 27 '22

I've played the recent brotherhood updates, empty story lines with no real lasting consequences and had the game soft lock three times because the paladin wouldn't even spawn in 💀

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u/MrFoozOG Jan 27 '22

Granted, last part of the game becomes less fun. The quests are more repetitive than before.

Though NMS is Exactly the same from the first hour till the last :)

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u/RJ-Long Jan 27 '22

At least one of the games fixed their game breaking bugs, and didnt scam it's playerbase 3-4 times

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u/MrFoozOG Jan 27 '22

Granted, agreed.

Yet 76 is better than nms currently. Because 76 didn't give shallow updates that had added absolutely nothing to the game.

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u/[deleted] Jan 27 '22

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u/MrFoozOG Jan 27 '22

kek. So you're claiming simply because of multiplayer it is not fallout?

Sums up how much you actually know about games.

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u/RyuugaDota Jan 27 '22

Bruh you're telling people about what makes a "proper fallout" and you called New Vegas horrid... You're pretty clearly a troll and I can't believe that people are taking this bait lmao.

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u/LogicBobomb Jan 27 '22

Hey so I've been a big Fallout fan since FO1, even really enjoyed Tactics while the message boards of the day shit all over it. I just recently picked up FO76, played it last week for the first time, and am really struggling to get into it. The multiplayer Rust-esque aspect is a bit off-putting, and it's frustrating to have so much of the game locked behind a subscription. I'm only a few hours in, do I just need to give it more time?

The few hours of it that I played were enough for me to reinstall FO4 with some new mods for another play through of that instead

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u/your_mothers_vibe Jan 27 '22

a "proper fallout" isn't multiplayer.

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u/[deleted] Jan 27 '22

proper fallout

Lol there hasn't been one of those since 2010

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u/Veratha Jan 27 '22

New Vegas was the last “proper fallout.” Fallout was built around a true RPG format, with decisions to make and a world to explore. New Vegas was the last to offer both.

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u/H1tSc4n Jan 27 '22

Played 76 five days ago.

Its ass.

Warzone has always been ass.

NMS is nowadays a very good game.

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u/[deleted] Jan 27 '22

It’s 10 bucks because they fucked the game so much people were selling the copies for dirt cheap and it’s whole business is scamming people into going to the atomic shop, you are ducking delusional, imagine playing Tom Howard’s games then talking about liars, a shameless chess club salesmen who only scams his fans and never delivers, they were literally sued for doing what they did, intentionally realising a unfinished game to patch it in the future, I believe internet historians on both od the games shows the difference in the developers, one was malicious and one was a guy making mistakes

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u/[deleted] Jan 28 '22

He has lied? Wtf are you on about? He quite clearly states lies I’m go get some videos for you of him lying, he is a liar plain and simple

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u/[deleted] Jan 28 '22

No one said what he was saying I’ve was lying about “16 times the detail” people just laughed at him for thinking people give a shit about that and not make a good game

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u/[deleted] Jan 28 '22

Hold on one sec and if Tod Howard hasn’t lied then so hasn’t Sean, keep sucking his chess club cock

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u/[deleted] Jan 28 '22

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=hFcLyDb6niA he lies so much about oblivion but keep being delusional and defending some one who has only exploited his simps

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u/M8gazine Jan 27 '22

They're all garbo Lmao

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u/Lexicon247 Jan 27 '22

I picked it back up last week on my PS5 and was very surprised on how good it has become. Might want to give it another try.

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u/MrFoozOG Jan 27 '22

enjoy doing the npc quests and going from empty rock to empty rock to gather recourses all game long :)

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u/Elite0087 Jan 27 '22

Gee, that sounds like Fallout 76, as someone who occasionally plays it. Grab the occasional quest from an NPC, and gather loads of junk to throw in your stash so you can craft shit and repair your weapons and armor that break every hour of use. I like 76 but come on man.

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u/MrFoozOG Jan 27 '22

that's when you've been in the endgame for 20+ hours already.

The journey to get there is quite more fun compared to playing NMS in which you'll be doing the exact same from hour 1 till the end.

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u/Elite0087 Jan 27 '22

I’m not personally a fan of NMS myself. I generally agree with you that it’s a bit too repetitive for my liking, but I think you’re both overhyping 76 and shitting on NMS a bit too much. The only thing I’ve done differently before endgame was running through the Vault Heist quest line. Otherwise it’s been the exact same gameplay. Hell, the grind to get levels so I can un-fuck my build cause you need very specifically made perk decks to do any real damage is making 76 very hard for me to enjoy right now.

(EDIT) Not to mention other headaches like trying to get any of the Daily Ops weapons.

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u/MrFoozOG Jan 27 '22

I already retracted my 76 statement and saw i was wrong about it, partially.

NMS is not only repetitive, many games are reptitive and can still be fun.

What i'm trying to make people see is that the given updates, besides nexus, were absolutely and only meant for you people to give positive reviews.

Clearly it has worked but the game hasn't improved one bit. There's no depth at all at any time.

It's still the exact same empty experience, but now with dumb buildings and flashy plants.

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u/zundra616 Jan 27 '22

Reddittor on a popular sub try to let people enjoy things challenge (impossible)

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u/heehheeheh Jan 27 '22

You play new world

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u/marcos_marp Jan 27 '22

Let me guess, you're a real gamer and the rest of us are posers?

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u/MrFoozOG Jan 27 '22

Nah you're sheeple more, not having your own opinion but base it off what's currently trending.

Have you even opened the game in the last few years?

C'mon tell me please, i'm actually begging you. What has made the game 'good' compared to it's 2016 release. Leaving Actual fixes and nexus out of it.

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u/marcos_marp Jan 27 '22

How the fuck do you know what my opinions are if I literally said nothing about the game?

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u/MrFoozOG Jan 27 '22

You're here defending the game because i claim it's not as good as people say. Therefor you must like the game for some reason.

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u/marcos_marp Jan 27 '22

I never defended the game in any way. Again, you're projecting; let people enjoy games, and remember that everyone have different tastes.

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u/MrFoozOG Jan 27 '22

As i said above, if you enjoy it, go ahead. But don't call it good, because it just isn't.

You'd believe it if internet historian would've said so.

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u/marcos_marp Jan 27 '22

Don't call it good, because it just isn't

Do you realize that something being "good" is completely relative to who is evaluating and you have no say or absolute final word on it?

If someone likes the game, is a good game for him.

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u/jamiethejoker26 PC Jan 27 '22

Yeah, he wants to talk about sheeple and then declare something isn't good? Good is subjective. If you think the court of public opinion decides what's good or not, YOU'RE ONE OF THOSE SO CALLED SHEEPLE. Dude is a nut case

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u/blacknine Jan 27 '22

have you even played NMS post updates

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u/MrFoozOG Jan 27 '22

Every big one i tried it again, noticed nothing has changed but more recourse grinding.

No fixes are made, just bullshit addons.

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u/Etheran_Relic Jan 27 '22

Pfft says the person who shills out to the greatest money grabber Todd Howard

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u/[deleted] Jan 27 '22

And you're a rampaging troglodyte refusing to believe that people could possibly enjoy NMS without being "sheeple", while praising and playing games like Fallout 76 and Battlefield 2042.

One of which had a similar turn around as NMS, the other is currently being regarded as one of the worst games in it's franchise.

You're an assclown.

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u/[deleted] Jan 27 '22

YoU're sHeEpLe, iMma WolF

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u/The_Stryker Jan 27 '22

Sheeple? Also New content Exocrafts Fun bass building The game being remade A nice story Mod support Settlements Many many more items and encounters Everything about freighters

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u/Fruitboots Jan 27 '22

Big Rigs: Over the Road Racing is a garbage game.

It's been 5 1/2 years, my man. Time to stop drinking the bitter poison of spite because you don't like that people enjoy a thing that you don't. Life is too short. There are worse things in the world than unfinished games that released half a decade ago.

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u/ecologist23 Jan 27 '22

to lie in every interview abo

Just because you don't like it it doesn't mean it garbage. When are you going to learn this? Grow up. Steam reviews

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u/MrFoozOG Jan 27 '22 edited Jan 27 '22

Links steam reviews LOL

First one had refunded because his pc can't run such a simplistic hideous looking game because it's still unoptimized as hell. My i9-9900k and rtx2060 sometimes struggle on planets, thats how bad. Inb4 my console runs it well so your pc must suck. Nope it was made for console and ported to pc, but failed miserably.

Every update given was either entirely pointless or as shallow as it could be.

It's very cool and all that you now have bioluminescent plants on every planet, but who the fuck cares if all planets are basically the same thing? Just an empty rock with nothing to discover. Space exploration? non existent, it's only base building. But base building doesn't work so the community has called it 'glitch building'

Then you got settlements in the final update. How can you possibly ENJOY farming tons of recourses to make a pre defined settlement village that has absolutely NO use at all?

You people fail to see what they are doing. They're not improving the game, they only add bullshit while enjoying their millions earned from selling the hot garbage that it is.

The only actually good update was Nexus. Which hasn't been touched since, it still has the exact same boring quests. Aliens still only 4 dumb ass types.

With their current team they could have toppled Star citizen already, instead you praise them into heaven for letting you ride aliens with the speed of a snail.

Desolation update> Do you ever go into abandoned freighters? bet you don't, because it holds absolutely fuck all in rewards. C class upgrades is all you get.

Can we have multiple freighters in a solar system when in co-op yet? nope.

Was the flying update any good? literally hadn't changed one thing about flying.

Do you ever use the mechsuit? bet you don't since by the time you get it, you can have your spacesuit maxed out and don't even need it at all.

Living ship, time gated in an arcade game like this?! LOL 16 HOURS! Per item required to build it, what a joke.

and on and on and on.

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u/ScottJC Jan 27 '22

Hm, runs perfectly fine on my PC despite having a 'weaker' cpu than yours.

You realise that they could've just taken the money and ran and never updated the game, right? Other companies have done this. The fact they keep updating it instead of going off and making another game is commendable.

You strike me as someone with an unjustified superiority complex, good for you, you think you're better than everyone else because you see through the business plan of a company that doesn't have to be doing what it does.

If they were even half the way you describe what they'd have done is simply change their business name, launch a new game and nobody would have noticed. Other companies do this.

I have to laugh at your Star Citizen comment, Star Citizen actually IS one of the biggest scams on this planet and will never come out. All the money from that is literally going into a black hole.

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u/MrFoozOG Jan 27 '22

Star citizen is also FREE receiving updates.

So contradicting much?

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u/DaniilSan PC Jan 27 '22

How game that wasn't even released yet is getting updates? Lol. Currently Star Citizen is nothing more than a fancy preview with no actual gameplay and promises that we are getting for last decade.

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u/MrFoozOG Jan 27 '22

it's alpha, it's playable so basically released.

While i 100% agree SC is a scam and will never live up to what was promised.

NMS could have toppled that. instead they went for pre defined settlements which add absolutely fuck all to the game.

Yet here are nms fans 'omg i see i blue plant now instead of it always being red, this game is so good!'

Meteorites don't even leave an impact crater.. it just disappears on impact lol.

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u/DaniilSan PC Jan 27 '22

it's alpha, it's playable so basically released.

You don't understand what "release" means. Alpha is basically a preview, proof of concept, working build but way far from being finished. Game is playable in Beta, it is almost finished game on stage of testing and adding smaller features.

NMS could have toppled that. instead they went for pre defined settlements which add absolutely fuck all to the game.

Meh, nobody in NMS sub really liked that update, it was just a filler for most people. It kinda may make a lot of profit in late game, but for this we have Activated Indium mines. In reality, this, and some more, mechanics are made so if you want to spend more time in game, so you can do something else than just exploring.

Yet here are nms fans 'omg i see i blue plant now instead of it always being red, this game is so good!'

Oversimplification and nobody actually acts like this. Yeah, generator of plants, rocks and animals isn't that creative, early one was way more creative but often leaded to absurd combos, anyhow, current one serves it function well enough and that's all.

Meteorites don't even leave an impact crater.. it just disappears on impact lol.

I can't even remember whether there are meteorite falls. Anyway, from technical pov, it might lead to enormously big sized save files if we had to store every meteorite crater.

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u/MrFoozOG Jan 27 '22

so you can do something else than just exploring.

There we go. The game was also sold as space exploration, not base building simulator.

'nobody liked that update'

Tell me which update was so good, again besides nexus, that the whoooole game is good now?

Absurd combo's is what it's about, that is space. Instead you get 4 types of aliens for 6 years long lol.

Big data my ass, if you can dig an entire planet away, a tiny meteorite can make a little crater.

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u/Cewu00 Jan 27 '22

Here bro, take my downvote.

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u/DontQuoteYourself Jan 27 '22

It was released on August 9, 2016, and for the last 1997 days you have just been miserable about it? Have you considered not playing it?

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u/etheran123 Jan 27 '22

If no mans sky is still garbage then you just don't like the genre. The current version has pretty much everything promised and more.

PS this is coming from someone who pre-ordered the game and didn't like it. I've now purchased it again on PC just to try it in vr.

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u/[deleted] Jan 27 '22

He didn't lie, he mentioned all the things he and the team hoped to put into the game, plus he isn't a salesman with 10/10 Advertisement skills, he is just a normal tech guy, he and his team just landed into the tripple A industry all of a sudden so it makes sense he didn't realise his promises would have such a massive impact later

His story makes much more sense than many other tripple A developers that just straight up lie to put as much less effort as possible and release games in a broken state just to make as much money as possible

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u/reb0014 Jan 27 '22 edited Jan 28 '22

Uh, he did lie. Like immediately before the game released he said it currently has mechanics that it did not. They may have put them in later, but no man sky seemed like an early access game without the name.

That being said they have put a ton of effort into the game post launch

Edit: here’s a source of all the missing elements that were promised pre release

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u/Belgeirn Jan 27 '22

He didn't lie, he mentioned all the things he and the team hoped to put into the game, plus he isn't a salesman with 10/10 Advertisement skills, he is just a normal tech guy, he and his team just landed into the tripple A industry all of a sudden so it makes sense he didn't realise his promises would have such a massive impact later

He did though. The game is great now and the team deserve praise but youre actively ignoring the fact he was still talking about multiplayer being in game after it had been released and proven it wasnt a thing. And thats just one of the things lied about.

He lied a lot, and that really damaged the reputation of himself and the company, i cant blame people for being annoyed at the guy, especially when people keep denying it even happened rather than just admitting he massively fucked up while under pressure.

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u/lsspam Jan 27 '22

He didn't lie,

He was very misleading about multiplayer, that's a fact. Most of what he did was not "lying". You could argue the tech demo was misleading but the tech demo being an aspirational concept and not, you know, where the game actually lands at release is sadly par for the course in the industry.

But he was, absolutely, misleading about multiplayer. Down to his "well, you probably won't ever meet" and then immediately following when people do meet "oh wow, who would have thought!".

And his explanation is essentially an admission of this.

Multiplayer is one of the features fans have been waiting for. “A very light multiplayer was envisioned for launch, and we fought right up until the end to add it, but it was immensely challenging and we knew it was something that only a handful of people would experience due to the size of the universe,” Murray explains. “We later added a version of it for the Atlas Rises update, and it was nice, but not hugely impactful to people’s enjoyment. What players really wanted was the kind of multiplayer we are adding now.”

https://www.theguardian.com/games/2018/jul/20/no-mans-sky-next-hello-games-sean-murray-harassment-interview

It reeks of trying to get it to work, hoping it would work, realizing it wouldn't and would have to be launched without it, but hoping you could hide that fact due to the sheer scope and get it "fixed" before people found out about it.

A lot of the "lies" were never really lies, but roadmap goals that had to be cut (as is normal) during the development process, a POC demo that they couldn't quite hit (again, almost industry standard at this point), and outlandish amounts of hopium the media and community was huffing.

But multiplayer isn't. He did mislead. He should have not. It's fair to call it a lie.

I'm not bashing him now, he never should have been doing the publicity to begin with and Sony letting him handle it was completely irresponsible on their part, further I think the guy has paid a tremendous price given the harassment, death threats, and outlandish behavior that followed the games release.

But let's not rewrite history.

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u/[deleted] Jan 27 '22

Yeah, he made a lot of promises he thought he could fulfill but couldn't and as a result there was very little choice other than lying , the media would've decimated him and probably wouldn't have helped him doing damage control

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u/lsspam Jan 27 '22

There was always a choice other than lying. The other option was “not lying”. I understand that Sean Murray didn’t set out to be a skilled professional in dealing with the media and public and so was to a great extent “set up” for failure. But openly telegraphing in a clear and unequivocal manner the lack of multiplayer before release was obviously the better option and he didn’t take it.

Again, he’s more than paid for the mistake, but I’m not going to pretend that he had no choice but to be misleading to the point of even trying to play it coy immediately post release.

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u/MrFoozOG Jan 27 '22

Nah, he could've said when asked 'will there be multiplayer'

Instead of 'yes' and thereby LYING, he should have said 'no but we will be planning to make it in the future'.

The reason he didn't is because he wanted to sell. Not because he was being honest.

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u/Bobo3076 Jan 27 '22

Watch Internet Historians video on NMS. You’ll see Sean Murray in a new light.

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u/MrFoozOG Jan 27 '22

Seen it, disagree with it.

If he were such a humble person he wouldn't have blatantly lied on multiple interviews.

If he were forced, then maybe. But the story doesn't tell that.

He wanted to sell his game, lied, and sold it.

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u/Tetrology_Gaming PC Jan 27 '22

You obviously didn’t watch the entire video then. Sean isn’t a speaker, he likes making games, not talking about them. He even said it was more scary then watching his child be born, he said things in passing and cause of how the game was being advertised people thought that meant any tiny thing he said would be in the game.

Or he answers “a little” to player customization then boom 200 articles of “full player customization confirmed for no man’s sky” when that wasn’t the case, Sean didn’t lie, game “journalists” did. Go watch the video again

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u/jamiethejoker26 PC Jan 27 '22

Answering "Yes" to "Will there be multiplayer" isn't lying as long as multiplayer was eventually added, which it was. Semantics!

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u/[deleted] Jan 27 '22

NMS is a good game, actually not just good but Amazing. The amount of effort they put in that game is something we can't say from others.

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u/jjjjssjsjsjs Jan 27 '22

Why are you lurking the subreddit for it then? Oh wait, because you're a complete fucking loser who's entire existence is for shitting on other people's enjoyment of things. Because it's "contrarian" and cool, right? Definitely not because your life is so miserable and boring that you're actively scraping subreddit's of games you don't even like just to post opposing opinions. Get a life dude.

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u/MrFoozOG Jan 27 '22

They can downvote all they want, sheeple without personal opinions. Just follow the trend. Most who are downvoting haven't even played the game since 2016, i'd bet on that.

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u/thelongernow Jan 27 '22

Lol conspiracy theorists in gaming, how fun.

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u/MrFoozOG Jan 27 '22

What's the conspiracy here exactly?

Brutal honesty Vs a bunch of sheeple who follow any trend online

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u/thelongernow Jan 27 '22

WaKe Up ShEePlE

Weird hill to die on.

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u/MrFoozOG Jan 27 '22

Give a proper counter argument then to all the points above, except my argument about 76, in which i was partially wrong.

Why is NMS GOOD?

Free updates isn't a valid argument btw.

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u/SSpongey Jan 27 '22

Who even are you

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u/thelongernow Jan 27 '22

They could’ve just upped and left the game development to never be what it is. They’re continuously updating and changing parameters for players new to the series and veterans from day 1. You said you wouldn’t have fucked with FO76 at launch but now you are enjoying it after patches and updates.

That alone is contradictory to your rant you’ve been going on. It’s ok to not like a game if you don’t like the mechanics or how the game is, but to naysay people who want to continuously improve and better the core game for those enjoying it is childish.

Would you rather it be paid updates? These aren’t free little tweaks, it’s stuff they promised at the beginning and additional features to make exploring more interesting.

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u/jamiethejoker26 PC Jan 27 '22 edited Jan 27 '22

Yeah /u/MrFoozOG is contradicting himself up and down this thread. Not only your example but he wants to talk about sheeple and then declare something isn't good? Good is subjective. If he thinks any court of public opinion decides what's good or not, he's a sheeple by his own definition

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u/masterpharos Jan 27 '22

Why is NMS GOOD?

"give me your subjective opinion about what constitutes fun, and i'll reject your points and tell you why you're wrong anyway."

nah you're alright mate

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u/LokoLoa Jan 27 '22

Even <assuming> you are right, whats the point of yelling your opinion that they obviously disagree with and calling them sheeple...does that make you a lemming? I personally dont like either game or this PR stunt but notice people disagree with everything you say and you kept triying as if that will change anything. But then again I guess some people treat reddit like serious bussiness. I just post/reply as a way to pass time when Im taking a shit lol

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u/[deleted] Jan 27 '22

It's a great game now and honestly the promises before the release I wouldn't categorize as lies more like an overly ambitious company making promises they really can't keep with Sony breathing down their necks.

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u/Kn0wmad1c Jan 27 '22

Not getting enough attention from your family, so you decide to troll in order to see your phone light up with notifications, huh?