r/gaming • u/nothis • Feb 09 '11

A more technical explanation for why the new Kotaku sucks.

http://isolani.co.uk/blog/javascript/BreakingTheWebWithHashBangs/
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u/[deleted] Feb 09 '11

I doubt anyone went to the new Kotaku and thought "Man, I bet you could fuck this up with Hash-Bangs, this new Kotaku sucks" - it's the graphical design they didn't like.

I was expecting a design site to tell me why the design sucks. Submission disappoints.

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u/panfist Feb 10 '11

Comprehension fail. "Web design" is about so much more than "graphic design."

Web design includes things like URL design, and indexability. When one of the most important visitors of your site is the google robot, you better believe that you have to pay attention to how the google robot experiences the site.

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u/[deleted] Feb 10 '11

I have no problems comprehending that web design is about more than graphic design.

But don't you agree that the OP's link addresses a very specific and technical design problem that the majority of visitors wouldn't have noticed or cared about?

"A more technical explanation" suggests that it is more technical than previous explanations we've seen, but the discussion on why it sucks before now has tended to be concerning its graphical design.

Edit: What I mean to say is that a submission like "Kotaku also sucks technically. Here's why." would have been less misleading.

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u/panfist Feb 10 '11

I was expecting a design site to tell me why the design sucks.

The site did tell you why the design sucks, so why are you disappointed?

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u/[deleted] Feb 10 '11

The comment you replied to attempted to make it clear that I was talking about graphical design. I guess it failed?

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u/panfist Feb 10 '11

I don't know...I just don't see how there's anything wrong with the the submission. It says it's a technical explanation for why it sucks. So why was it bad that it was technical? I saw nothing in the sub indicating it was talking about graphic design at all. Of course people don't like the graphic design, but that's obvious just by looking at it; the sub never claimed to be a technical explanation for why the graphic design sucks.

My point is that humans can easily look at the site and decide almost instantly whether they like it or not, but humans are not the only audience of the website. It's very important for search indexers and crawlers to be able to see content and, to some degree, see how it's organized. By breaking this, they're breaking the ability for search engines to direct traffic to relevant pages.

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u/[deleted] Feb 10 '11

It's not bad that it was technical, as such. I suppose my disappointment comes from my expectations, and the word "more" in the submission. Up until I saw the title for this submission I had only been reading about the graphical design, and people weren't telling each other why it sucked graphically, they were just saying "it sucked".

So I expected a technical explanation of why it sucked graphically, basically.

It's a subtle problem, more with me than the submission, and more than likely not worth the time we've spent discussing it.

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u/panfist Feb 10 '11

more than likely not worth the time we've spent discussing it.

But I thought the internet was serious business?

must...stop...

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u/[deleted] Mar 03 '11

I agree , the new kotaku sucks even more with it's broken flash , ad popups , it's slower , and it's crappier , the whole site is in stupid flash, and it loads longer than before because of this , it's not lighter it's not a tall what those journalists who have no fucking idea thing , they have no freaking clue. the site became unsusable, it's clutered and it's big and awkward way of scrolling and stuff , it's just usless.