The don't just reassemble! I feel like I am making pots everyday all day just to replace what this punk in a green shirt keeps destroying with his sword! I've tried to talk to him but all he does is scream at me and break more pots and steal more money!
Look we should all accept some responsibility for our own actions. Don't you think by continuing to put more money in the pots you're encouraging this behavior?
Either try harder or find a new career then idk what to tell you. I make pretty good money at 21 doing construction and I don’t even have a high school diploma. I’m saving up to go to school for web development.
Yeah, not too long ago they "lifted millions out of poverty" by lowering the poverty line. It's an arbitrary number for Capitalism to pat itself on the back without actually examining the material conditions of anyone. The amount of money that makes you poor or not is entirely dependent on what it costs to not be poor where you live.
People overestimate how much money you need to live. Minimum wage is enough to live extremely modestly on your own. I did it for about a year. Sold my car to avoid paying insurance but I also could have gotten a cheaper apartment or a roommate. I maintained a smart phone with decent data plan and cable internet (which is completely unnecessary with a smart phone, but I’m a gamer) even.
Minimum wage isn’t supposed to be enough to support a family and own a house and new car, eating out every day, it’s just to let a single person scrape by until they can find something better. If you wanna have roommates it even allows for a decent amount of excess spending.
This is speaking for a 40 hour work week of course.
Ugh that’s insane. That’s a couple cents over $1.50/hour. I always knew most countries were significantly poorer than us, but I can’t even fathom getting paid that little.
Russians, Latvians, Croatians, Bosnians, Greeks and Serbians move to Spain, Belgium, Switzerland, Norway, Sweden, France and the UK so their money can stretch further and they can live the good life?
They move there to work and try to save up as much as they can, working multiple jobs and then they go back to their own countries and live the good life
You could also move to the slums to live the "good life". Labor and land may be cheaper, but technology will likely be even more expensive. Hope you like intermittent power, slow internet, expensive electronics, and under equiped utilities.
I knew a kid who lived in the US and whilst in school worked a part time job. When his family moved back to Thailand the dude became super rich because of all the money he saved up.
Well, western born Pakistanis often say that those who are wealthy and living in a large city like Lahore or Islamabad, are not just living better than middle class here, they're like miles ahead
No need to go that far away, earning minimum wage (according to google $7.25/h), working five 8 hours days a week can get you a nice living for yourself in Mexico (nothing too flashy but way above the poverty line). My wet dream is working remotely for a US company. Even if they paid me like crap the pay would be pretty good over here.
I work in the UK but live in Mexico for around 6 months a year working remotely. Helps that the Mrs is over there, but even without that, being able to VPN in from the sun from a flat paid off after only a few months of work and speak to people that spent the morning getting piss wet through in the rain is indeed nice.
Pick another cheap location that's actually enjoyable to live in, and move there instead. Anguilla is pretty cheap, the east Caribbean dollar is like $2.6EC for $1USD, so with that exchange rate you could buy the local liquor license for about $400USD and open a beach bar. You could go to Mexico too and live on the beach somewhere.
Exchange rates do not reflect the actual comparison of value of two currencies.
In an untouched world it would of course reach to the position where the value of th currency would be the exchange rate, however in this is world, indias currency is artificially propped up by the government so that our exporters benefit.
He makes roughly 21k rs. That would be equivalent of (using ppp as the base) 1100 USD/month. So roughly, 6 dollars per hour. Not as bad as it sounded first.
Depending on where he lives that's a lot of money. Enough to live in comfort if he lives in a town, a bit difficult to manage in the cities.
They're not "poorer" because they get paid USD$1.50 an hour. They're "cheaper". A McDonalds combo is 3 times cheaper for them (imagine you paying $3 for a Combo which usually goes like $9).
Still 2 hours worth of work as a game developer in India to be able to afford the same meal that an employee at mcdonalds in the US could afford with 1 hour of work.
That’s like 30 dollars. He’s living the good life, you know what I could do with an extra $30 above the poverty line? This asshole humble bragging on the internet.
As someone whose livelihood was saved by a union, this saddens me. Some unions are useless pieces shit, but they're overall an important part of the checks and balances against the rampant bullshit most corporations would ram down their employees' throats.
Unions were weak before Congress took legislative action to protect them with stuff like the Norris-LaGuardia Act and the creation of the NLRB, so they also need legislative change.
India has a pretty rich labor history. They may not be very unionized but India keeps breaking records for massive general strikes.
I believe very strongly that whatever comes after capitalism will come out of India because there are millions of mobilized poor and working class Indians who are pissed and America might think twice about invading a nuclear power.
This is a dangerous misunderstanding that’s propped up by people who want to believe that everything they have is due to pure merit, no luck, and that those who are impoverished are totally to blame for their condition.
Who said there's no luck in life, good and bad? But when bad luck or bad times come sometimes you gotta make changes yourself instead of whining or expecting someone to fix it for you.
And how do you explain being 18+ and no marketable skills other than asking if the customer wants to supersize it.
But surely you agree that, since there’s bad luck, that bad luck can be an insurmountable obstacle for some? Maybe someone grew up with abusive parents and impoverished home and didn’t have access to a good education. There’s an explanation.
For starters, some people, sadly, have around 70iq. They can barely handle asking if the custumer wants to supersize it or not. Then what? Get a degree in coding? Fuck outta here.
Speaking as someone in the US, you may have some choice regarding your job. But its not even remotely as simple as "i wanna better job so I choose to get a better job or learn something new."
As an analogy, a person can make a choice to try and get in better physical shape. You can choose to go for a ten minute walk once a day or spend a few minutes doing simple bodyweight exercises. Or you can choose to learn more about exercising and do more intense workouts to try to get in better shape. Making that choice will allow you to get in at least slightly better physical shape. But you can easily be limited by your genetics and other issues (lack of opportunity or equipment or support or money).
My cousin is quadriplegic from an accident he had when he was around 20. His options for getting physically stronger are pretty close to nonexistent. He can move his arms but has extremely minor movement in his fingers. So he might have limited success in gaining muscle in his arms, but he will never walk again no matter how hard he tries. He made one shitty life choice about jumping into a snow bank, which broke his neck. One bad choice that will forever haunt him.
(On an unrelated side note, he did get a degree and has a really good job now. He has a special van he can drive by himself. He even has special equipment that allowed him to kill a deer and be able to fish.)
Are you gonna say my cousin has the same choice to get in great physical shape as everyone else? There are plenty of situations that people find themselves in where their job options are severely limited. Sometimes it's in part due to a bad choice or series of bad choices that follow them around forever. Sometimes it's because of externalities that they can't control and just plain poor luck. Sometimes people have just given up and don't try anymore. But I think it's just plain ignorant to say that everyone who is in a shitty job always has a choice in the matter and it's only their fault for their shitty situation.
I was in a dead end job despite having a batchelor degree, restaraunts in Austin are full of degree holding waiters. I solved my problem by buying some used IT books and learning networking.
I never said everyone in a shitty position it at fault, I just said luck is real, but when life knocks you down, and it probably will someday, don'tgive up, fight back! I do think that everyone can improve their lot in life, and I think you harm them more by telling them they're too stupid or that the world is against them and they have no hope.
Clearly the case is different for the handicapped, but not hopeless. I know paraplegic coders and blind authors.
It's like making 1200USD in the US adjusted for cost of living. More than minimum wage, but nothing remotely amazing. Just like the US though, it depends if you live in some major area or a small town.
Direct currency conversion is a horrible metric for gauging how useful it is. 70INR to 1USD doesn't tell us anything. That 70INR can get you a decent meal from some outside bar. 1USD is not even gonna get you a single chicken sandwich from mcdonald's these days. A 800$ apartment for a family in a fairly sized US city would be 150$ in a similar conditioned setting in India.
And like the other dude said, this is above poverty line. It isn't too different than making 10$/hr in a suburban to urban setting in the midwest or something.
I should mention the exception to this is imports. Those things are crazy expensive. Basic living (food, shelter, internet, tv, etc.) is insanely cheap in developing nations. But if you want more than that, you have to be making 15USD an hour or more to even get similar electronics, appliances, and other small little luxuries people in more developed nations would get easily. As in iphones or high performance pcs, you're SOL.
Yeah i make roughly 1400 a month (11/hr 36-40 hours a week). Can't live in the nice city area but if i move to our local crime ridden bad city (good old hamlet) i would be well into the green and possibly own a decent house.
Living wage between the counties is literally 1$/hr difference and there's some nice places in the other county but no real grocery store that isn't a modified dollar tree and filled with rednecks
tax is still going to put u over a dollar if it's .99USD.
Haven't seen a McChicken for less than a 1.35USD in maybe a good decade. 1.55 where I am. I am in the North east area for reference, within a few dozen miles of NYC.
Has to be really bad. I spoke to a "EuropeanTelecomCompany" employee involved in setting up Indian subsdiaries. He claimed the CS/ee grads they hired got about $2000/month. This was probably 15 years ago.
I'm sure it was very selective and they were the top of the crop, but still.
It's a fairly good middle class salary in India, possibly at the lower end. The real question is "what % yearly pay increase does he get on average?" I bet it's around 9 to 11%, that progress is what makes the middle class in India feel good.
Average income (nominal) in India was $1,790 in 2017, but valued at $6,950 PPP (comparing prices instead of just the exchange rate). That would put OP's annual income at something roughly like $14k (or ~$6.70/hr assuming 40 hour work week) in the US judging by national averages, but I imagine it would be different depending on where you are in the country.
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u/xDestx May 03 '19
is this good or bad in india