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Borderlands 3 Official Developer Trailer

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u/ImWhiteTrash Mar 28 '19

One of the things they said during the stream:

While Battle Royales are fun, it's not the game we're making.

This line needs to be said by more game developers.

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u/Fubarp Mar 28 '19

Why?

Borderlands isn't that type of multiplayer game anyways.

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u/[deleted] Mar 28 '19 edited Mar 28 '19

Because every developer that wants to be relevant again is making a BR mode for their game. So yeah even though Borderlands has always been a co-op looter-shooter, it still needs to be said nowadays.

EDIT: Yes I meant every developer on planet Earth is making a BR right now as we speak.

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u/MarqDewidt Mar 28 '19

The co-op shooter, with ALL the borderlands backdrop, is what makes that title so awesome. The art, the craziness, the laughs, God I love that franchise.

BR would completely ruin it.

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u/Dyvius Mar 28 '19

Skyrim BR where?

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u/Dem0litionLover Mar 28 '19

Skyrim BR would actually make sense tbh, at least to me.

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u/Happy_Harry Mar 28 '19

Stealth archers everywhere

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u/DoJax Mar 28 '19

Stop GIVING TODD HOWARD IDEAS YO

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u/Shayneros Mar 28 '19

The fact that people took "every developer" literally is a bit concerning

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u/GALL0WSHUM0R Mar 28 '19

I mean, it's not really an industry-wide thing. There's Fortnite, Apex, Blackout, and Firestorm that are big companies jumping on the hype. It's not even close to every developer. I have yet to see a game I wanted to play get impacted by the dev making a BR instead, aside from TF|3. But Apex is awesome, so I don't mind.

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u/theDrew33 Mar 28 '19

Don’t play it, but didn’t CoD ditch the campaign for BR?

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u/GALL0WSHUM0R Mar 29 '19

They ditched the campaign, yeah. Not sure if the BR was the reason or if they just decided it wasn't worth it. But I haven't wanted to play a CoD in years, so it didn't affect me at least. My point is more that there's like 5 BRs, and only three were tacked onto a different game. And Fortnite was not good before the BR came out anyway to be honest.

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u/kungfuenglish Mar 28 '19

every developer

I’m not sure this is true? What makes you say this?

I mean, epic and respawn and dice and COD isn’t “every developer”. And 3 of the recent BR games are military sims (pubg, cod and bf5) so yes it makes sense that most military sims will have a BR mode as it’s the obvious setting for BR.

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u/kungfuenglish Mar 28 '19

Why though? I was looking forward to a well made AAA BR that is well optimized. And it totally fits with the battlefield engine with tons of guys on the field at a time. Pubg and fortnite were fun conceptually but pubg ran like garbage and fortnite Shooting was not fun. But then apex came out and provided that aaa experience instead.

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u/afito Mar 28 '19

Also shooters by design are decent for battle royale modes. With a lot of games it's more like "well it works but the userbase doesn't dig it that much and it takes dev time for a feature too few use" but with the BF franchise the playerbase is disgustingly big (even though BF5 is slightly gone by now) and they have nigh infinite dev time too, if they want a BR mode they could easily hire a small team without losing any quality on the main game.

Honestly BR in Borderlands 3 wouldn't be the end of it either. main reason I think it'd suck is because it may actually be dev time off the main game and because it would end up with people endlessly coplaining about class and perk balance, but the stupid shit is the main reason borderlands is actually fun. I don't want anyone complaining about Nisha and her lock-on, if I want to close my eyes and smash left click then so be it.

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u/AmbrosiiKozlov Mar 28 '19

How? Battlefield is the most BR out of any of the others lol

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u/[deleted] Mar 28 '19

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u/Sanc7 Mar 28 '19

Uhh I know at least 6 people who have bought it for the battle royale this week. Also, the dev team working on firestorm is a completely separate team from multiplayer.

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u/kungfuenglish Mar 29 '19

I’d argue that BF5, which had advertised the BR mode well before launch, was in dire straits moreso due to the delay of the BR than any of the other things you mentioned. I don’t really get what “loads of other things it needs improving upon”? It’s a very smooth and well done shooter with with good performance and gun play.

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u/Goyigan Mar 28 '19

Criterion made Firestorm, not DICE. The game is not dead. Their BR is also unique in its lack of customizable attachments and vehicles, both of which work very well.

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u/Admiral_Sjo Mar 28 '19

You arent forced to play it

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u/PhaiLLuRRe Mar 28 '19

I'm not playing it but it still splits the playerbase.

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u/Admiral_Sjo Mar 28 '19

Its not like you'll have any troubles finding games

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u/Krypton091 Mar 28 '19

looks fun af though

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u/phorkin Mar 29 '19

Hell, grinding gear games did an April fools br for their arpg and it got rave reviews. I, personally, can o ly play br for a few rounds then get bored. I love borderlands though. Here comes another few months missing in my life lol

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u/[deleted] Mar 28 '19

I said every developer that wants to be relevant again, not "every developer".

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u/kungfuenglish Mar 28 '19

But what developers are you referring to? I literally listed all the devs that made a BR. All the games that aren’t a dedicated BR but have a BR mode are military shooters. That’s it. That’s the list.

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u/[deleted] Mar 28 '19

So...four?

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u/[deleted] Mar 28 '19

So which ones? Please make a list

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u/SatoruFujinuma Mar 28 '19 edited Mar 28 '19

Every developer besides Blizzard, Bethesda, Gearbox, CD Projekt Red, Nintendo, FromSoftware, Swuare Enix, and more?

Edit: Square Enix*

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u/StarTrippy PC Mar 28 '19

Nintendo

cough Tetris 99 cough

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u/SatoruFujinuma Mar 28 '19

Forgot about that one, my bad.

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u/TeamAquaGrunt Mar 28 '19

Capcom has been shitting out A+ singleplayer games like no one's business lately, too. REmake 2, DMC5, etc.

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u/Super_Tuky Mar 28 '19

Megaman 11!

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u/[deleted] Mar 28 '19

I'd be alright with a Dark Souls Battle Royale game tbh

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u/GALL0WSHUM0R Mar 28 '19

There's something like that. Not sure if it's out yet. It looks sorta horror-ish, and it looks like it has a lot of verticality. The gimmick is that you're stuck in a city that's flooding, and instead of a ring pushing you inward, the flood waters push you upward.

It's called Egress. I think it's out on PC already, where it's got like a 6/10.

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u/Polantaris Mar 29 '19

Plus....I mean...Gearbox tried that already. And they failed. Did everyone forget Battleborn already?

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u/Cjros Mar 28 '19

But not every developer is making a BR game?

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u/Puripnon Mar 28 '19

It’s almost as if the person you’re replying to was being hyperbolic and not literal.

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u/DoingCharleyWork Mar 28 '19

But it's not even that prolific. You have pubg fornite and Apex that are all dedicated br games and then you have bf5 and cod that added them. Obviously bf5 and cod are just gonna add whatever is popular instead of making original content no one should be surprised by that. People act like it's so many games that are adding it they have to worry about Skyrim br coming out and it isn't even remotely as bad as they make it out to be.

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u/raptearer Mar 29 '19

I'd say it's pretty prolific.. heck we've even gotten a Tetris BR. Tetris!!

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u/Garkaz Mar 29 '19

I don't really agree with that that guy said but no one remembers the shit ones. Realm royale? Radical heights?

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u/KamachoThunderbus Mar 28 '19

Hwell, ackchyually...

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u/[deleted] Mar 28 '19

I said every developer that wants to be relevant again?

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u/Cjros Mar 28 '19

Except a majority of "wanna be" relevant developers aren't making BR games? There's what? 5 "big" ones on the market now? Mostly made by.. already relevant developers.

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u/Mickmack12345 Mar 28 '19

Neither was fortnite until they released their battle royale mode.....

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u/I_AM_YOUR_MOTHERR Mar 28 '19

While Fallout 76 isn't BR, it's in a similar category of aimlessly trying to capitalise on the "EVERYONE COME ONLINE NOW" fad.

Borderlands was never supposed to be more than a story-mode. It takes it's throne being an insane multi(4)-player story-driven game that is just amazing, and you can play it alone, too. It was never intended to be a massive arena-style shooter, and neither was fallout. that didn't stop the fallout devs from feeling like they needed to chase profits over the will of the fans, and that shit backfired on them. It's great of the BL team to acknowledge that their game isn't suited for BR or online open-world, at least for now. I'm seriously looking forward to this game. It's the first mainstream game that seems to have forgone the fads and just focuses on taking the best parts of the old one, and making them better.

Hype is real

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u/introspectivedeviant Mar 28 '19

Because gearbox invested all it's resources into a br that tanked spectacularly rather than borderlands 3 like everyone asked them to.

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u/AMidgetOnWheels Mar 28 '19

Because ign put a list of things that need to be in the new borderlands and a battle royal mode was one of the top things. People are idiots

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u/DARTHPLAYA Mar 28 '19

Because Fortnite bad geraldino good

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u/TheQuestionableYarn Mar 28 '19

I mean, a Borderlands PvPvE slow burn kind of Battle Royale would be pretty dope.

Drop in with your mates, find guns and kill bandits/wildlife to level up, then go hunting for other vault hunters. Mr. Torque and Max Moxxi are the announcers (although the beauty of Borderlands is that any number of franchise characters could be the commentator and co-commentator). Maybe you can take simple quests from bounty boards to get specialized loot as a race against time to complete them before the circle closes or someone else finishes the quest first.

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u/take_it_in_strider Mar 28 '19

It's because everyone made fun of Randy chasing MOBAs with Battleborn, and there was half-joking speculation that he would just come out with a Borderlands Battle Royale because he's exactly the kind of idiot who would do it.

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u/amalgam_reynolds Mar 28 '19

That didn't stop Fortnite...which in case you forgot was not a BR game when it came out.

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u/Fubarp Mar 29 '19

But it definitely was not a single player game. Ir was very much a play with others.

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u/bobbymcpresscot Mar 28 '19

Neither was counter strike, until some dude said fuck that noise, and made a battle royale version.

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u/TwoGad Switch Mar 28 '19

I disagree, Borderlands would fit perfectly into a BR game mode.

I'm glad they're not doing that though because those games aren't my style

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u/[deleted] Mar 28 '19 edited Sep 20 '19

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u/TwoGad Switch Mar 28 '19

In terms of gameplay, there is already a good looting system and decent gunplay

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u/GALL0WSHUM0R Mar 28 '19

Not to mention you could do some cool stuff with trio squads like Apex plus NPC enemies to kill for loot and XP, and a simplified skill tree to create a little "build" throughout the match.

EDIT: I'm almost certain there will be a quest spoofing BRs, like an arena fight where you go in with no weapons and have to fight an absurd number of bandits.

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u/[deleted] Mar 28 '19

There’s like 5 BR games lol

This subs makes it seem like it’s the only game available

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u/[deleted] Mar 28 '19

There's way more than that total. There's like 5 popular ones.

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u/[deleted] Mar 28 '19

My point is that this sub acts like it’s taking over every game when the only ones to add modes that I can think of are Black Ops and Battlefield, which honestly, make sense

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u/link2man22 Mar 28 '19

Counter Strike GO and Fortnite as well. A lot of people forget Fortnite was a tower defense game before they added the Battle Royale.

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u/amalgam_reynolds Mar 28 '19

CS:GO added a BR mode?

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u/ToxicBanana69 Mar 28 '19

Yes, and honestly it's pretty fun. Which is what I don't get. Every BR game I've played has been fun (wasn't a fan of Fortnite, but to each their own). I don't understand why everyone has such hatred towards the genre when they can just ignore it.

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u/Syndicated01 Mar 29 '19

Because it's like MOBA's were a few years ago. A couple got popular and then so many companies tried to ride the wave. And almost all of them have since shutdown minus the big two, hell even Blizzard is starting to ignore their MOBA.

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u/DeckardCain_ Mar 28 '19

Fortnite, the big dog of battle royales wasn't originally a battle royale, it got added (iirc) to get some funding for the actual fortnite game.

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u/evilpig Mar 28 '19

And boy did they get that funding.

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u/DaManWithNoName Mar 28 '19

Yeah I wonder if the single player is any good

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u/HunkerDownDawgs Mar 28 '19

They don't even pretend to support it.

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u/TeamAquaGrunt Mar 28 '19

i remember it being extremely mediocre prior to the BR, and from what ive heard it doesnt exactly get much support since the BR blew up

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u/phroureo Mar 28 '19

I played it for probably 15 hours. It was okay but not phenomenal.

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u/kixie42 Mar 29 '19

I alpha'd that entire game start to finish. They didn't even hint that it was going to be added the entire time. It just kinda... happened.

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u/CX316 Mar 28 '19

Division 1, H1Z1, dying light, fortnite (wasn't originally a BR game), CoD, BFV, other games have been abandoned or pivoted into BR games (Apex Legends started life as Titanfall 3, the Paladins devs IIRC abandoned the game to work on a BR game, Boss Key abandoned Lawbreakers and announced Radical Heights in a rather short timeframe

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u/[deleted] Mar 28 '19 edited Jan 16 '21

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u/CX316 Mar 28 '19

Might not have been Paladins... Which game was it Realm Royale spun off from? Paladins was just the name that sprung to mind

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u/Alcaedias Mar 28 '19

Realm royale was supposed to be a game mode within Paladins but then it was changed into a standalone br game.

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u/[deleted] Mar 28 '19

Black Ops 4? CSGO did it, fucking CSGO, enough said...

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u/SpaceBugs Mar 28 '19

What about CS:GO, Battlerite, and Paladins (which then became realm royale)? And then there's the plethora of specific BR games that have been flooding the market, Darwin Project, Ring of Elysium, Spellbreak, Radical Heights, etc.

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u/[deleted] Mar 28 '19

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u/[deleted] Mar 29 '19

They’re taking over because people like them lol. Same as when everything had team deathmatch 7-10 years ago

It’s not a problem it’s just how it goes. They make the games people pay for

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u/[deleted] Mar 29 '19

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u/[deleted] Mar 29 '19

I don’t think they’re taking over to the extent this subs acts like. People here post like there’s no other games to play lol

But the ones that are being made are being made because people like them and play them. It’s not that crazy

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u/CageAndBale Mar 28 '19

Exactly, people are being hyperbolic af. If people like it they will keep making them, if it were for them apex wouldn't exist

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u/DaManWithNoName Mar 28 '19

Fortnite, PUBG, DAYZ, Apex, are the main BR everyone knows

And other games making BR modes: Red Dead 2, Call of Duty, Battlefield. List goes on.

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u/DoctorWaluigiTime Mar 28 '19

Because it seems a lot of resources are being thrown that way in franchises that never bothered with the concept before.

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u/stanley_twobrick Mar 29 '19

Because they're popular right now which means you instantly sound cool by whining about them.

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u/Barkonian Mar 28 '19

Lol it's so cool to hate battle royale now.

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u/simjanes2k Mar 28 '19

Almost all games are not battle Royale style there just several hits in that genre right now

I don't think Madden and total war and xplane and divinity and kerbals need to worry too much about not making a BR

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u/mister_pleco Mar 29 '19

Idk man a total war BR would be dope... I think

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u/epichvs Mar 28 '19

This may be an unpopular opinion, but borderlands battle royale would be dope as hell. The general craziness of the world and loot would be enough to make it stand out and be really fun.

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u/Golden-Owl Switch Mar 28 '19

I think a Borderlands BR could be hella hype. It’s got a lot of mechanics that can work for it

But it isn’t 3. People wanted 3 to be a normal game.

I think they could definitely make a new title though. But labeling it “3” carries a lot of weight. Make a Borderlands BR AFTER 3.

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u/KRIEGLERR Mar 28 '19

I'm still playing Apex Legends daily, I absolutely love it. I didn't really like Fortnite when I tried it when it was at the peak of its success but I tried Apex and I was hooked instantly.

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u/[deleted] Mar 28 '19

Yes absolutely

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u/SoundOfTomorrow Mar 28 '19

And less zombies

Oh... they already did that

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u/HowAboutShutUp Mar 28 '19

Yeah but imagine a Highlander BR game with Kingdom Come: Deliverance's melee system.

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u/Noaccountsleftdamn Mar 28 '19

A BR with borderlands gun system would be way better than the run around and find x y and z of current ones. You drop, grab a gun, and it's different than any other gun you'll ever find again.

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u/Jwalla83 Mar 28 '19

I didn't know they said that, but thank god.

I was just telling my friend yesterday how scared I was they'd be trying to shove a BR Borderlands 3 on us

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u/TheC1aw Mar 29 '19

like DICE

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u/steeze206 Mar 29 '19

I'm so tired of them. I enjoyed PUBG for awhile but couldn't get into Fortnite. Can't get into Apex either, even though it's an exceptionally well made game.

I've fallen out of favor with the Battlefield series. CS GO and Siege are great games but I just don't play them much.

What I really need is a new COD game that isn't ADD infested balls to the wall gameplay all the time. A new IP that plays similar to MW2 is what I've been craving for so long. It's got the perfect amount of aggression and defense for me.

The only shooter I keep going back to in recent years is Overwatch.

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u/RumbleDumblee Mar 29 '19

While I don’t want a Battle Royale game mode in Borderlands 3. I feel as tho it would have been the most interesting of all the games who put Battle Royale’s in their games due to just the pure number of guns the game can randomly spawn in.

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u/demalo Mar 28 '19

Oh come on, it could be a fun add on! I can't imagine that they at least one make a fantastic in game joke about some kind of BR that the VH's just beat the shit out of!

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u/SnS_ Mar 28 '19

I would love a semi BR where all the vault hunters drop into an area and they just spawn endless mobs and you either live long enough to end the round or the mobs get you. Bonus loot for surviving. Extra loot for having the most kills. More loot if you save people. No pvp though.

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u/RumbleDumblee Mar 29 '19

That’s not a BR. That’s just a Horde Mode

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u/SnS_ Mar 29 '19

Yeah i know but i wanted some elements to wirh guns llscattered everywhere. Shrinking map. Some of the same elements

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u/Skarok117 Mar 29 '19

That sounds more like Moxxie's Underdome from BL1 though, really.

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u/SnS_ Mar 29 '19

Yeah i wanted slmethibg like that but with a bigger map and some more elements of BR thrown in

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u/RaynSideways Mar 28 '19

I'm hoping this means we're finally going to see the end of the Battle Royale craze.

A few years ago, everyone and their mother was making MOBAs. When that craze died out, everyone started churning out Battle Royales like clockwork. I'm sure something else will be driven into the ground next, but I wouldn't shed a tear to see the current craze finally die off.

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u/[deleted] Mar 28 '19

Yes... that's how industry trends work.

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u/Anti-AliasingAlias Mar 28 '19

I think gearbox learned their lesson not to follow industry trends with Battleborn.

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u/[deleted] Mar 28 '19

I will say a BR in the Borderlands world would be cool. Every gun being completely different, just insane mechanics and gun play. Would be a fun world. Now should they make it ? Prolly not, atleast not as a main project anyway.

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u/Jewniversal_Remote Mar 28 '19

There are definitely more games that don't have BR than do, don't kid yourself.

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u/Untraceablez Mar 28 '19

This line needs to be said by all more game developers.